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Is there a pier at Pier Head? Paul E. Ester 01:28, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I moved this here:-
"There is now a new Liverpool landing stage to replace this, it was initially used on Saturday / Sunday 8th / 9th September 2007.
and has had two cruise ships land already - the QE2 is due to arrive on the 21st of September which I think will be the official opening of the new floating landing stage".
It is useful information, but a comment, not an encyclopaedia entry, as it is.
Swanny18
09:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
"which in 2001/2002 were dubbed the 'The Three Graces':"
It may have been, but I think the phrase "The Three Graces" in relation to the Pier Head is much older. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.70.219.172 ( talk) 23:59, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
not much earlier, but 1998 http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=inFvXOKRqFgC&pg=PA310&dq=three+graces+liverpool&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tIX7TsiTDIOo8QOH3M3gAQ&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=three%20graces%20liverpool&f=false I can't believe that the phrase was only made around that time. I am going to have a proper look Sweetie candykim ( talk) 21:11, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
also 1998 (page 18) 'celebrated waterfront's 'three graces' http://books.google.co.uk/books?ei=h4b7TreKBoOl8gPD8a3XAQ&id=ZLLfAAAAMAAJ&dq=three+graces+liverpool&q=three+graces+#search_anchor Sweetie candykim ( talk) 21:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Few people today will remember but the Pier Head actually was jet black for decades. All the major buildings and churches were deep black in colour. The staining black was the result of decades of unrestricted coal burning in Liverpool. In the 1960s Smokeless Zones came into Law and powerful Power Washer hoses were used to return the buildings to their original colour. It was quite a surprise to many 'leather Necks' (Liverpudlians) to realise that all buildings were not in fact jet black in colour. Johnwrd ( talk) 05:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
The date provided for the term "Three Graces" was deleted a while ago, with the edit summary ""Three Graces" has been a long standing term, not from 2001/2". Leaving aside the thought that 2002 was, in fact, a long time ago, now, such a claim could do with a source to back it up. I have re-instated the date, with a reference to the earliest use of the term I can find, and I’d be interested to see a source that actually uses the term much earlier than then. The earliest use of the term seems to date from 2001/2002, when it appears to have been coined to juxtapose with the new “ Fourth Grace” project. Prior to that, according to the Liverpool Echo’s Millenium edition in 2000, and this source from 1995, the three buildings were referred to (if they had any widely-used common name at all) as “the three sisters”. And the Pevsner guide to Liverpool (published in 2004) doesn’t use the term at all (in fact the author calls the three building remarkably dissimilar) so it was arguably not in general use even then. Swanny18 ( talk) 19:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm pleased others are confirming that the term is much further than the last decade. Babydoll9799 ( talk) 12:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
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Is there a pier at Pier Head? Paul E. Ester 01:28, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I moved this here:-
"There is now a new Liverpool landing stage to replace this, it was initially used on Saturday / Sunday 8th / 9th September 2007.
and has had two cruise ships land already - the QE2 is due to arrive on the 21st of September which I think will be the official opening of the new floating landing stage".
It is useful information, but a comment, not an encyclopaedia entry, as it is.
Swanny18
09:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
"which in 2001/2002 were dubbed the 'The Three Graces':"
It may have been, but I think the phrase "The Three Graces" in relation to the Pier Head is much older. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.70.219.172 ( talk) 23:59, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
not much earlier, but 1998 http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=inFvXOKRqFgC&pg=PA310&dq=three+graces+liverpool&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tIX7TsiTDIOo8QOH3M3gAQ&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=three%20graces%20liverpool&f=false I can't believe that the phrase was only made around that time. I am going to have a proper look Sweetie candykim ( talk) 21:11, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
also 1998 (page 18) 'celebrated waterfront's 'three graces' http://books.google.co.uk/books?ei=h4b7TreKBoOl8gPD8a3XAQ&id=ZLLfAAAAMAAJ&dq=three+graces+liverpool&q=three+graces+#search_anchor Sweetie candykim ( talk) 21:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Few people today will remember but the Pier Head actually was jet black for decades. All the major buildings and churches were deep black in colour. The staining black was the result of decades of unrestricted coal burning in Liverpool. In the 1960s Smokeless Zones came into Law and powerful Power Washer hoses were used to return the buildings to their original colour. It was quite a surprise to many 'leather Necks' (Liverpudlians) to realise that all buildings were not in fact jet black in colour. Johnwrd ( talk) 05:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
The date provided for the term "Three Graces" was deleted a while ago, with the edit summary ""Three Graces" has been a long standing term, not from 2001/2". Leaving aside the thought that 2002 was, in fact, a long time ago, now, such a claim could do with a source to back it up. I have re-instated the date, with a reference to the earliest use of the term I can find, and I’d be interested to see a source that actually uses the term much earlier than then. The earliest use of the term seems to date from 2001/2002, when it appears to have been coined to juxtapose with the new “ Fourth Grace” project. Prior to that, according to the Liverpool Echo’s Millenium edition in 2000, and this source from 1995, the three buildings were referred to (if they had any widely-used common name at all) as “the three sisters”. And the Pevsner guide to Liverpool (published in 2004) doesn’t use the term at all (in fact the author calls the three building remarkably dissimilar) so it was arguably not in general use even then. Swanny18 ( talk) 19:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm pleased others are confirming that the term is much further than the last decade. Babydoll9799 ( talk) 12:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
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