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The C&EN cover story on phthalates in the June 2015 issue may be used for additions or updates to this article:
-- Leyo 01:59, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Madhaba51 added several paragraphs to the section with verbiage and tone that says exposure to phthalates causes several maladies. This is not the case. After decades of study, absolutely no causal relationships between phthalate exposure and actual human maladies has been proven. In fact, quite the opposite considering that phthalate exposures began 60+ years ago. It is true that several toxicological studies in rodents, especially rats, have shown strong relationships between exposure and reproductive and developmental toxicity. However, it's also true that the main mechanism for this observed toxicity is specific to rodent physiology and humans do not share this physiology. I propose that several of the statements made by Madhaba51 should be clarified by the addition of "in rodents", while others can be clarified by pointing out the limitations of the studies quoted and the methodologies employed to reach their conclusions. In the exuberant efforts to pin bad outcomes on phthalate exposure, some questionable methods have been employed. Repeating the conclusions of those repeatedly, in the media and in Wikipedia, does not make them true. -- Scoob5555 ( talk) 12:40, 9 May 2016 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoob5555 ( talk • contribs) 12:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
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While this "study" received a lot of press earlier this year, the facts around it haven't been well-explored or discussed except in the Slate article. What the extremely biased study doesn't say is that the level of phthalates found in the Mac n Cheese and other cheese products was 1000x lower than most scientific studies. They were reporting parts per billion, whereas most studies - and all regulations on phthalates - are in parts per million. This was a case of using the latest technology to find a substance at lower levels than was even possible only a decade ago. And then using that to fundraise on Kraft's back, hoping that no one would ask questions. So while detection of phthalates in foods is a legitimate section to add to the Phthalates article, this study should only be mentioned as a cautionary tale of how NGOs can present biased data to garner a lot of negative press.
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-- Leyo 01:59, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Madhaba51 added several paragraphs to the section with verbiage and tone that says exposure to phthalates causes several maladies. This is not the case. After decades of study, absolutely no causal relationships between phthalate exposure and actual human maladies has been proven. In fact, quite the opposite considering that phthalate exposures began 60+ years ago. It is true that several toxicological studies in rodents, especially rats, have shown strong relationships between exposure and reproductive and developmental toxicity. However, it's also true that the main mechanism for this observed toxicity is specific to rodent physiology and humans do not share this physiology. I propose that several of the statements made by Madhaba51 should be clarified by the addition of "in rodents", while others can be clarified by pointing out the limitations of the studies quoted and the methodologies employed to reach their conclusions. In the exuberant efforts to pin bad outcomes on phthalate exposure, some questionable methods have been employed. Repeating the conclusions of those repeatedly, in the media and in Wikipedia, does not make them true. -- Scoob5555 ( talk) 12:40, 9 May 2016 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoob5555 ( talk • contribs) 12:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
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While this "study" received a lot of press earlier this year, the facts around it haven't been well-explored or discussed except in the Slate article. What the extremely biased study doesn't say is that the level of phthalates found in the Mac n Cheese and other cheese products was 1000x lower than most scientific studies. They were reporting parts per billion, whereas most studies - and all regulations on phthalates - are in parts per million. This was a case of using the latest technology to find a substance at lower levels than was even possible only a decade ago. And then using that to fundraise on Kraft's back, hoping that no one would ask questions. So while detection of phthalates in foods is a legitimate section to add to the Phthalates article, this study should only be mentioned as a cautionary tale of how NGOs can present biased data to garner a lot of negative press.
Scoob5555 ( talk) 17:08, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Ranked in decreasing urgency:
-- Smokefoot ( talk) 02:00, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
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