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Should we start the process of delinking the individual campsites? Radagast83 20:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
All the camps are also linked from the main Pmont article, so one of the two lists is probably superfluous. Also, this article (if there's any reason to keep it) should be moved to List of camps at Philmont Scout Ranch. — Dan | talk 20:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Proposal Stub articles about camps should be merged into this article. If they can become at least "start" class, they can be moved out of the article. -- NThurston 21:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I like the concept of this page, but it is very disjointed. I put in a few edits to staffed camps and would like to do more. It seems that there is little to no agreement on exactly what information should be included for each camp. Until this is standardized and agreed upon, any description of Philmont's backcountry camps will seem incoherent and a real disservice to the subject. A few suggestions:
1. Dump the lists of Camp Directors. This seems cumbersome, will always be incomplete (how far do you want to go back?), and seems irrelevant to all but a very small group of people (including me and I was a CD for three years).
2. I like the inclusion of map coordinates. This can easily be expanded to all camps and I will be willing to work on this. The same goes for elevations.
3. Include physiographic information for all camps (i.e. is it in a canyon or on a mesa?). Give the reader (most likely a prospective camper or prospective staff member) some idea of what the place is like.
4. For staffed camps, a good summary of the program and, in the case of interp camps, how that program is relevant to the history of the region and/or the ranch.
5. History of the name of the camp, if known.
6. A run-down of "amenities" at staffed camps, i.e. wood stoked or propane showers, night programs, fishing license availablity, etc. Also, any unique considerations such as camps where all trash must be packed out.
7. All descriptions should be written with first consideration to the intended audience- the prospective or past camper or advisor, i.e. the customers of the ranch.
I could probably come up with more, but this is an evolving process, right? I appreciate the work done on this page so far and look forward to participating in and improving it. (My resume for this: Camper for 3 years, PC for 3 years, CD for 3 years, Backcountry Manager for 2 years, Autumn Adventure for 3 years.)
Wildtech 04:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
would it be a good idea to add another section in here for closed camps? I don't know too many, but if we could identify most or all of them, I think it would make a good addition. Mikeboatlake 23:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
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Question. How do I list coordinates as UTM? From the article, I can see that lat/long is done like 36°30′11″N 105°03′34″W / 36.50306°N 105.05944°W. However, all the coordinates at Philmont are done in UTM, so I think it should be changed over to that. Also, I should be able to add UTM coordinates for all of the camps (I plan on cleaning up this page so it looks nicer when I have the time). Zybthranger ( talk) 15:09, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
WGS84 36° 30′ 11″ N, 105° 3′ 34″ W 36.503056, -105.059444 UTM 13S 494677 4039749
The resolution on Degrees/Minutes/(whole)Seconds is coarser than UTM. So anything that starts out as UTM will be more accurate than something created by a conversion from such. Conversely, converting such to UTM yields a number that is less accurate than it appears. North8000 ( talk) 18:16, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Slightly offended to see the Hunting Lodge, a staffed camp since 2000, not on the list. I added it with a brief explination and corrected the total of staffed camps.
I took it out because all trail camps have latrines and sumps except trail camps in the Valle. Zybthranger ( talk) 16:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Huge article with almost nothing but primary sources, reinstated by editor who seems to have a COI. Drmies ( talk) 22:18, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Eranbot flagged this as problematic. I checked with [ https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Philmont+Scout+Ranch+camps&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 earwig] which shows the opening paragraph is the issue. -- evrik ( talk) 22:32, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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Should we start the process of delinking the individual campsites? Radagast83 20:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
All the camps are also linked from the main Pmont article, so one of the two lists is probably superfluous. Also, this article (if there's any reason to keep it) should be moved to List of camps at Philmont Scout Ranch. — Dan | talk 20:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Proposal Stub articles about camps should be merged into this article. If they can become at least "start" class, they can be moved out of the article. -- NThurston 21:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I like the concept of this page, but it is very disjointed. I put in a few edits to staffed camps and would like to do more. It seems that there is little to no agreement on exactly what information should be included for each camp. Until this is standardized and agreed upon, any description of Philmont's backcountry camps will seem incoherent and a real disservice to the subject. A few suggestions:
1. Dump the lists of Camp Directors. This seems cumbersome, will always be incomplete (how far do you want to go back?), and seems irrelevant to all but a very small group of people (including me and I was a CD for three years).
2. I like the inclusion of map coordinates. This can easily be expanded to all camps and I will be willing to work on this. The same goes for elevations.
3. Include physiographic information for all camps (i.e. is it in a canyon or on a mesa?). Give the reader (most likely a prospective camper or prospective staff member) some idea of what the place is like.
4. For staffed camps, a good summary of the program and, in the case of interp camps, how that program is relevant to the history of the region and/or the ranch.
5. History of the name of the camp, if known.
6. A run-down of "amenities" at staffed camps, i.e. wood stoked or propane showers, night programs, fishing license availablity, etc. Also, any unique considerations such as camps where all trash must be packed out.
7. All descriptions should be written with first consideration to the intended audience- the prospective or past camper or advisor, i.e. the customers of the ranch.
I could probably come up with more, but this is an evolving process, right? I appreciate the work done on this page so far and look forward to participating in and improving it. (My resume for this: Camper for 3 years, PC for 3 years, CD for 3 years, Backcountry Manager for 2 years, Autumn Adventure for 3 years.)
Wildtech 04:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
would it be a good idea to add another section in here for closed camps? I don't know too many, but if we could identify most or all of them, I think it would make a good addition. Mikeboatlake 23:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The image Image:Philmont Scout Ranch.png is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --08:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Question. How do I list coordinates as UTM? From the article, I can see that lat/long is done like 36°30′11″N 105°03′34″W / 36.50306°N 105.05944°W. However, all the coordinates at Philmont are done in UTM, so I think it should be changed over to that. Also, I should be able to add UTM coordinates for all of the camps (I plan on cleaning up this page so it looks nicer when I have the time). Zybthranger ( talk) 15:09, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
WGS84 36° 30′ 11″ N, 105° 3′ 34″ W 36.503056, -105.059444 UTM 13S 494677 4039749
The resolution on Degrees/Minutes/(whole)Seconds is coarser than UTM. So anything that starts out as UTM will be more accurate than something created by a conversion from such. Conversely, converting such to UTM yields a number that is less accurate than it appears. North8000 ( talk) 18:16, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Slightly offended to see the Hunting Lodge, a staffed camp since 2000, not on the list. I added it with a brief explination and corrected the total of staffed camps.
I took it out because all trail camps have latrines and sumps except trail camps in the Valle. Zybthranger ( talk) 16:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Huge article with almost nothing but primary sources, reinstated by editor who seems to have a COI. Drmies ( talk) 22:18, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Eranbot flagged this as problematic. I checked with [ https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Philmont+Scout+Ranch+camps&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 earwig] which shows the opening paragraph is the issue. -- evrik ( talk) 22:32, 28 June 2023 (UTC)