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Article doesn't mention anything about author winning the Hugo for his work the Lovers. A major accomplishement. Sadly I do not know much about it. Was looking here for more info. fyi.
Could we have some more bibliographical info, ie whereabouts he was born, lives now, ect, ect. 203.211.69.201 10:46, 16 January 2006 (UTC)Willuknight
Phil was born in Indiana and grew up in Peoria. Lived at various times in upstate New York and Arizona (IIRC), but he and Bette spent much of their lives in Peoria, where they still live. Both are pretty frail these days. When I feel stronger, maybe I'll insert this info in the article proper. --RFL
-- FarmerCollector 03:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)Truth be told the newly published material is from Phil's files of formerly unpublished works.
Surely Tarzan Alive and Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life are not non-fiction. They are fiction pretending to be non-fiction, or "Pseudo non-fiction" ? His website calls them fictional biography.
Riverworld War is shown as 1964 - this does not seem likely - it consists of an extract and an edited version of two 1979 novels. His website gives a 1980 publication date.
-- Beardo 08:58, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
There seem to be some missing titles, such as "Traitor to the Living" and "Stations of the Nightmare", and no doubt others.
"His parallel universe series World of Tiers inspired Roger Zelazny's Amber series." - did it ?
-- Beardo 07:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I see Zelazny wrote an intro to one of the novels - was that written before or after he had started the Amber books ?
-- Beardo 15:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I have heard rumors that the song "Purple Haze," by Jimi Hendrix, was inspired by a line from one of Farmer's novels. Is this true?
Jimi Hendrix claimed that “Purple Haze” was not a drug song. Jimi was an avid reader of science fiction, and he encountered the phrase “purple haze” in the book Night of Light by Philip Jose Farmer (although Farmer’s phrase was actually “the purplish haze”).
It doesn't really seem appropriate to me that his novel "Flesh" redirects to the Meat article. Would anyone object to removing the linkage to said article?
I have amended, also Love Song (led to a Christian Rock Band) and Dare (leads to a disambig. page, but no mention of the novel there. BUT - do all his novels deserve their own pages ? Surely not ? -- Beardo 05:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Okay...I've not read any of Philip's books, but know of him via The Dungeon series - not written by him, but listed as "Philip Jose Farmer's The Dungeon". For those not in the know, it was an idea by PJF but the books were written by different authors. Anyway...I saw no mention of that at all on the page and wondered if the fans here thought they should be mentioned or not?
There was a note that a lot of the info here is not sourced, so I added a "references" section, with Mary Brizzi's "Reader's Guide" book. This is an adequate reference for much of the information listed, for people looking for a source (although only up to date as of the early 1980s, of course). Geoffrey.landis 02:48, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
This article is sorely in need of additional citations. The career section is especially in need of attention as it is plagued by Weasel Words, an example:
"His Apocalyptic Life" (1973)—wherein he conducts a exigetic mock-biography that winds either character in with a mind-boggling array of other fictional characters."
S. Luke 05:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, its poorly worded, but it also makes an extraordinary claim without citing any sources (i.e. based solely on the editor's opinion).
From WP:AWW: "With weasel words, one can imply a statement is true when it may be no truer than its inverse."
There is nothing in that statement to prove that Farmer's book is "mind-boggling" for all we know, it could be the complete opposite of mind-boggling. Moreover, exigetic isn't a word, my best guess is that the author was going for the adjective of exigency, which would be exiguous. Although there's nothing in the above statement to prove that Farmer's book is exiguous either.
S. Luke 22:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I notice that this article is only describing Farmer's work, but not the person. Such a long life, and we learn nearly nothing about it here... Gestumblindi ( talk) 23:10, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
As Modernist implies, the point here is less Farmer's (personal) life than his work, which is what makes him notable. I knew Phil, and while his life was not dull, its significance to the rest of the world rests in what it contributed to the books he wrote. Thus there's some point in telling the story behind the writing and rewriting of the Riverworld books, and perhaps in noting the fact that the steel-mill material in Fire and the Night came out of Phil's own work experience. But otherwise the details of his family and work history are not really that important in the context of an encyclopedia article, which is not really set up to do the work of a literary biography. RLetson ( talk) 19:23, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Bradley University actually provided a good source. I'm starting to compile others. Zombie Hunter Smurf ( talk) 15:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Didn't mean to throw cold water on anything--just to caution against overstuffing what should be a modest encyclopedia entry. (Phil was a modest guy.) Anyone who follows the links from the Bradley U. page will find the Peoria Journal-Star Legacy Project pieces on Phil ( [1] and [2]). RLetson ( talk) 05:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
re Lovers, please see The Black Star Passes by John Campbell, interspecies sex predates this —Preceding
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I so wish someone would find a better picture — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.85.18.26 ( talk) 18:48, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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Farmer claimed that he was of one-eighth Cherokee descent. Could anyone please tell me if there's any truth to this?-- Thylacine24 ( talk) 13:19, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
(Spoiler ahead, obviously.) In the World of Tiers section, there's a mention of Earth as a constructed universe. Could I please remove that?-- Thylacine24 ( talk) 00:57, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
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Article doesn't mention anything about author winning the Hugo for his work the Lovers. A major accomplishement. Sadly I do not know much about it. Was looking here for more info. fyi.
Could we have some more bibliographical info, ie whereabouts he was born, lives now, ect, ect. 203.211.69.201 10:46, 16 January 2006 (UTC)Willuknight
Phil was born in Indiana and grew up in Peoria. Lived at various times in upstate New York and Arizona (IIRC), but he and Bette spent much of their lives in Peoria, where they still live. Both are pretty frail these days. When I feel stronger, maybe I'll insert this info in the article proper. --RFL
-- FarmerCollector 03:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)Truth be told the newly published material is from Phil's files of formerly unpublished works.
Surely Tarzan Alive and Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life are not non-fiction. They are fiction pretending to be non-fiction, or "Pseudo non-fiction" ? His website calls them fictional biography.
Riverworld War is shown as 1964 - this does not seem likely - it consists of an extract and an edited version of two 1979 novels. His website gives a 1980 publication date.
-- Beardo 08:58, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
There seem to be some missing titles, such as "Traitor to the Living" and "Stations of the Nightmare", and no doubt others.
"His parallel universe series World of Tiers inspired Roger Zelazny's Amber series." - did it ?
-- Beardo 07:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I see Zelazny wrote an intro to one of the novels - was that written before or after he had started the Amber books ?
-- Beardo 15:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I have heard rumors that the song "Purple Haze," by Jimi Hendrix, was inspired by a line from one of Farmer's novels. Is this true?
Jimi Hendrix claimed that “Purple Haze” was not a drug song. Jimi was an avid reader of science fiction, and he encountered the phrase “purple haze” in the book Night of Light by Philip Jose Farmer (although Farmer’s phrase was actually “the purplish haze”).
It doesn't really seem appropriate to me that his novel "Flesh" redirects to the Meat article. Would anyone object to removing the linkage to said article?
I have amended, also Love Song (led to a Christian Rock Band) and Dare (leads to a disambig. page, but no mention of the novel there. BUT - do all his novels deserve their own pages ? Surely not ? -- Beardo 05:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Okay...I've not read any of Philip's books, but know of him via The Dungeon series - not written by him, but listed as "Philip Jose Farmer's The Dungeon". For those not in the know, it was an idea by PJF but the books were written by different authors. Anyway...I saw no mention of that at all on the page and wondered if the fans here thought they should be mentioned or not?
There was a note that a lot of the info here is not sourced, so I added a "references" section, with Mary Brizzi's "Reader's Guide" book. This is an adequate reference for much of the information listed, for people looking for a source (although only up to date as of the early 1980s, of course). Geoffrey.landis 02:48, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
This article is sorely in need of additional citations. The career section is especially in need of attention as it is plagued by Weasel Words, an example:
"His Apocalyptic Life" (1973)—wherein he conducts a exigetic mock-biography that winds either character in with a mind-boggling array of other fictional characters."
S. Luke 05:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, its poorly worded, but it also makes an extraordinary claim without citing any sources (i.e. based solely on the editor's opinion).
From WP:AWW: "With weasel words, one can imply a statement is true when it may be no truer than its inverse."
There is nothing in that statement to prove that Farmer's book is "mind-boggling" for all we know, it could be the complete opposite of mind-boggling. Moreover, exigetic isn't a word, my best guess is that the author was going for the adjective of exigency, which would be exiguous. Although there's nothing in the above statement to prove that Farmer's book is exiguous either.
S. Luke 22:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I notice that this article is only describing Farmer's work, but not the person. Such a long life, and we learn nearly nothing about it here... Gestumblindi ( talk) 23:10, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
As Modernist implies, the point here is less Farmer's (personal) life than his work, which is what makes him notable. I knew Phil, and while his life was not dull, its significance to the rest of the world rests in what it contributed to the books he wrote. Thus there's some point in telling the story behind the writing and rewriting of the Riverworld books, and perhaps in noting the fact that the steel-mill material in Fire and the Night came out of Phil's own work experience. But otherwise the details of his family and work history are not really that important in the context of an encyclopedia article, which is not really set up to do the work of a literary biography. RLetson ( talk) 19:23, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Bradley University actually provided a good source. I'm starting to compile others. Zombie Hunter Smurf ( talk) 15:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Didn't mean to throw cold water on anything--just to caution against overstuffing what should be a modest encyclopedia entry. (Phil was a modest guy.) Anyone who follows the links from the Bradley U. page will find the Peoria Journal-Star Legacy Project pieces on Phil ( [1] and [2]). RLetson ( talk) 05:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
re Lovers, please see The Black Star Passes by John Campbell, interspecies sex predates this —Preceding
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Farmer claimed that he was of one-eighth Cherokee descent. Could anyone please tell me if there's any truth to this?-- Thylacine24 ( talk) 13:19, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
(Spoiler ahead, obviously.) In the World of Tiers section, there's a mention of Earth as a constructed universe. Could I please remove that?-- Thylacine24 ( talk) 00:57, 16 May 2021 (UTC)