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Perhaps in Latin, but in Greek it is "Philadelphia", and as the New Testament was written in Greek, and this is what is alluded to in the county's name, I question the appropriateness of this comment. Rlquall 01:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Why not merge with Philadelphia, Pennsylvania? It seems to be standard Wikipedia practice to have only a single article for conterminous zones. That is, San Francisco County, California redirects to San Francisco, California; Nantucket County, Massachusetts redirects to Nantucket, Massachusetts; Kings County, New York redirects to Brooklyn. Why should Philadelphia be different? AJD 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I agree, merge it. I live in Philly and we never, and I have never heard it called the County of Philadelphia.-- Tombombadil 3 July 2005 15:33 (UTC) merge, but boothy443 may just revert.
:I also think that this information should be merged in the city of Philadelphia information but specific mention should be made that the county and city of Philadelphia are one in the same. I lived in Philly for about 2 years and the distinction was never useful.
Reflex Reaction 21:46, 25 July 2005 (UTC) Reading the comments and the articles in depth have changed my mind. The histories are separate and the articles should remain separate. It also looks like Boothy443 is doing lots of work to validate two articles. I count at least 2 people for the merge (Tombombadil and AJD) with at least 4 against the merge (Moreau36, Boothy, Mrja84, and myself). There has been plenty of time to garner support for the merge and I will remove the proposed merge template
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14:31, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
On this wiki page, Consolidated city-county,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_city-county
Philadelphia is listed. As such I am once again removing the county link. evrik 19:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Let's bring in a third party or put this up to a vote. evrik 20:48, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
I requested mediation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal#Philadelphia_County_and_other_Philadelphia_Pages
The reason for a non-merger is, like I mentioned in my earlier comment, there are "two" histories between the city and county, especially before the Consolidation Act of 1854. Prior to 1854, there were other incorporated cities, districts, and townships that should be noted. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania is the article about the city only, especially in it's history section. If I'm not mistaken, the county came into existance before the city. -- Moreau36; 0146, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Until I added the protection tag to this page, there was little or no discussion regarding the reversions between November 2nd and January 15th on this talk page. I hope protecting the page will encourage some positive dialogue here, so for the time being, I am going to leave this page protected. I am unfamiliar with Pennsylvania related topics, so please discuss amoungst yourselves what is the best for this article. If the page still remains protected when consensus occurs, please let me know, and I will promptly unprotect the page. Provided that the repeated reversions stop, I'll also unprotect the page earlier so that other users can edit the article. -- HappyCamper 06:22, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Now that the page has been frozen.
Let the Philadelphia County article exist. The category shouldn't be separtate from the current 'city' one. For all the reasons mentioned before. evrik 06:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Why was this frozen? 68.174.86.238 01:50, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the sentence pointing out that the city is the county seat of the county... because it's a silly thing to say, really, given that there isn't anything else in the county. :) Savatar 04:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I'll go through the page later today for copy-editing. -- Happylobster 14:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok dumb question why are we saying "Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania", and not "County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania"? I know it is a little thing but don't all PA counties use the 'County of NAME' syntax? Shouldn't we use the most correct not just the vernacular? Awg1010 ( talk) 23:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
The article uses this phrase
It is the most populous county in the United States coterminous with a municipality
Not sure what this means but at least both Brooklyn and Queens are municipalities (boroughs) and are coterminous with their counties. Given that the comment may have meant with the same name that would eliminate Brooklyn but leave Queens. Something needs to be corrected here.
It would appear that it is the largest city that is coterminous since LA, Chicago and Houston are not conterminous.
Hope to see a correction.
dmace44 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmace44 ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
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Perhaps in Latin, but in Greek it is "Philadelphia", and as the New Testament was written in Greek, and this is what is alluded to in the county's name, I question the appropriateness of this comment. Rlquall 01:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Why not merge with Philadelphia, Pennsylvania? It seems to be standard Wikipedia practice to have only a single article for conterminous zones. That is, San Francisco County, California redirects to San Francisco, California; Nantucket County, Massachusetts redirects to Nantucket, Massachusetts; Kings County, New York redirects to Brooklyn. Why should Philadelphia be different? AJD 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I agree, merge it. I live in Philly and we never, and I have never heard it called the County of Philadelphia.-- Tombombadil 3 July 2005 15:33 (UTC) merge, but boothy443 may just revert.
:I also think that this information should be merged in the city of Philadelphia information but specific mention should be made that the county and city of Philadelphia are one in the same. I lived in Philly for about 2 years and the distinction was never useful.
Reflex Reaction 21:46, 25 July 2005 (UTC) Reading the comments and the articles in depth have changed my mind. The histories are separate and the articles should remain separate. It also looks like Boothy443 is doing lots of work to validate two articles. I count at least 2 people for the merge (Tombombadil and AJD) with at least 4 against the merge (Moreau36, Boothy, Mrja84, and myself). There has been plenty of time to garner support for the merge and I will remove the proposed merge template
Reflex Reaction
14:31, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
On this wiki page, Consolidated city-county,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_city-county
Philadelphia is listed. As such I am once again removing the county link. evrik 19:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Let's bring in a third party or put this up to a vote. evrik 20:48, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
I requested mediation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal#Philadelphia_County_and_other_Philadelphia_Pages
The reason for a non-merger is, like I mentioned in my earlier comment, there are "two" histories between the city and county, especially before the Consolidation Act of 1854. Prior to 1854, there were other incorporated cities, districts, and townships that should be noted. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania is the article about the city only, especially in it's history section. If I'm not mistaken, the county came into existance before the city. -- Moreau36; 0146, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Until I added the protection tag to this page, there was little or no discussion regarding the reversions between November 2nd and January 15th on this talk page. I hope protecting the page will encourage some positive dialogue here, so for the time being, I am going to leave this page protected. I am unfamiliar with Pennsylvania related topics, so please discuss amoungst yourselves what is the best for this article. If the page still remains protected when consensus occurs, please let me know, and I will promptly unprotect the page. Provided that the repeated reversions stop, I'll also unprotect the page earlier so that other users can edit the article. -- HappyCamper 06:22, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Now that the page has been frozen.
Let the Philadelphia County article exist. The category shouldn't be separtate from the current 'city' one. For all the reasons mentioned before. evrik 06:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Why was this frozen? 68.174.86.238 01:50, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the sentence pointing out that the city is the county seat of the county... because it's a silly thing to say, really, given that there isn't anything else in the county. :) Savatar 04:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I'll go through the page later today for copy-editing. -- Happylobster 14:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok dumb question why are we saying "Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania", and not "County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania"? I know it is a little thing but don't all PA counties use the 'County of NAME' syntax? Shouldn't we use the most correct not just the vernacular? Awg1010 ( talk) 23:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
The article uses this phrase
It is the most populous county in the United States coterminous with a municipality
Not sure what this means but at least both Brooklyn and Queens are municipalities (boroughs) and are coterminous with their counties. Given that the comment may have meant with the same name that would eliminate Brooklyn but leave Queens. Something needs to be corrected here.
It would appear that it is the largest city that is coterminous since LA, Chicago and Houston are not conterminous.
Hope to see a correction.
dmace44 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmace44 ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 9 August 2014 (UTC)