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2 September 2006: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pforzheimer House. Result: keep. `' mikka (t) 03:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I am deleting the following sentence--
It isn't all that factually accurate, and certainly isn't objective.
Andrewstillman 19:27, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
The intent of the "famous grads" section is to include people who are famous enough to shed some light on the house, for having played a role in educating them, or to surprise people who would not have expected the famous person to have gone there. How does Isaac Schapira qualify? Searching for him yields the damning Google report
Who is this guy that he deserves to be listed here? Uucp 14:22, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
If you lived in Pforzheimer House, you would know, UUCP, if that is your real name. http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/gallery/damon_disciples?pg=2
Not only do I wish to be commemorated as a famous resident of Pforzheimer, UUCP, I would appreciate it if you mentioned me in your excellent entry on Harlem. I used to live at 127th and Lenox. I'll be the first to admit surprise that I merited a mention on wikipedia (though not anymore, it seems), but then again, how awesome were Mo Rocca's Thursdayfests? Finally, I am pleased to report that Harvard's standards are as high as ever, despite my four-year campaign to tarnish the institution. --Dirty.
On looking at this article, I see that it's supported with numerous references to the Harvard Crimson. However, it's not very easy to tell from inspection what specific things in the article have published sources and what might have just been personal stories with no sources other than the personal authority of the editors.
For example, what's the source for "War with Adams?" None of the article titles in the references says anything like that, and it's not reasonable to expect a reader to check eleven different articles looking for a source.
I think this article really needs to have per-section citations for sections like "War with Adams," and individual citations for trivia items. Dpbsmith (talk) 09:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Uucp: if you want to go and wholesale delete the majority of the article, I think the burden of proof is on you to show that it's non-notable. Removing large amounts of information needs some consensus; you can't do it without consulting anyone. AJD 14:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I must completely disagree with anyone who says the war with Adams is non-notable even to Pfohozheimer House and its residents. As an actual RESIDENT of the house, I can tell you that the war is one of the most actively discussed points of Pforzheimer House history. This is the case because at Harvard, dinning hall privileges, especially at the houses closest to Harvard Yard, are coveted, and the Adams house war won Pfoho the most coveted eating privileges on the Harvard campus.
I will never understand these constant battles among some wiki editors to root out what they consider "fluff". Wikipedia is not paper - there is plenty of room for the most esoteric points on all subject matter. Just take a look at how in depth some of the pages on virtual worlds, or ficitional worlds gets. I'll take your fluff, and with it make a delicious fluffernutter sandwich of information for the wikipedia. Ivymike21 18:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
They're back! Yes, director Del Lord has done it again! Those lovable rapscallion Harvard boys are back in another laff-riot of hysterical hi-jinks! You'll split your sides at the zany antics of these merry pranksters. They'll tickle your funnybone as they warm your heart with their rollicking, merriment. This time, it's war—but, gee whillikers, what a war! You've never seen one like this! It's all good fun, and in the end, those collegiate rogues settle their differences peacefully in a madcap finale. A comic campus classic from the team that brought you "The Halfback of Notre Dame." Rated G.
To calibrate some of this discussion:
Three seem to me to actually be "about" Pforzheimer House:
Dpbsmith (talk) 23:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
UUCP removed the section on "Dispute with Adams on dining access" and reverted the section on "rechristening" with this edit comment:
The reinsertion of the "zealously defending" language was a mistake. My bad. I support the reversion. In fact I was the one who added the {{fact}} tag and certainly didn't intend to remove it.
As to the dining dispute, what makes it noteworthy is not my assertion that it's noteworthy, but the fact that the Harvard student newspaper thought it was worth a long article. I've explained above that I think that the Crimson is a reasonable judge of what's considered important to the Harvard community, and that the audience for this article is primarily the Harvard community. Dpbsmith (talk) 23:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm having trouble trying to reconcile material in a 1913 book about Radcliffe,
{{
cite book}}
: Unknown parameter |coauthors=
ignored (|author=
suggested) (
help). Brief text; content is mostly illustrations by John Albert Seaford
Online page images and PDF at Google Bookswith the statement in Pforzheimer House that
and in Pforzheimer House, that
The 1913 book says, on page 32 of the PDF (Google's page images show no page number on the original pages)
No residence facilities on Linnean Street or on the north side of the "playground" seem to be mentioned in this book. Which parts of Pforzheimer represent 1901 Radcliffe buildings? Did the 1913 book overlook a couple of dorms? Were some 1901 living quarters converted to some other purpose by 1913 and thus not mentioned? Dpbsmith (talk) 16:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Image:Pforzheimer house shield.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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2 September 2006: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pforzheimer House. Result: keep. `' mikka (t) 03:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I am deleting the following sentence--
It isn't all that factually accurate, and certainly isn't objective.
Andrewstillman 19:27, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
The intent of the "famous grads" section is to include people who are famous enough to shed some light on the house, for having played a role in educating them, or to surprise people who would not have expected the famous person to have gone there. How does Isaac Schapira qualify? Searching for him yields the damning Google report
Who is this guy that he deserves to be listed here? Uucp 14:22, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
If you lived in Pforzheimer House, you would know, UUCP, if that is your real name. http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/gallery/damon_disciples?pg=2
Not only do I wish to be commemorated as a famous resident of Pforzheimer, UUCP, I would appreciate it if you mentioned me in your excellent entry on Harlem. I used to live at 127th and Lenox. I'll be the first to admit surprise that I merited a mention on wikipedia (though not anymore, it seems), but then again, how awesome were Mo Rocca's Thursdayfests? Finally, I am pleased to report that Harvard's standards are as high as ever, despite my four-year campaign to tarnish the institution. --Dirty.
On looking at this article, I see that it's supported with numerous references to the Harvard Crimson. However, it's not very easy to tell from inspection what specific things in the article have published sources and what might have just been personal stories with no sources other than the personal authority of the editors.
For example, what's the source for "War with Adams?" None of the article titles in the references says anything like that, and it's not reasonable to expect a reader to check eleven different articles looking for a source.
I think this article really needs to have per-section citations for sections like "War with Adams," and individual citations for trivia items. Dpbsmith (talk) 09:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Uucp: if you want to go and wholesale delete the majority of the article, I think the burden of proof is on you to show that it's non-notable. Removing large amounts of information needs some consensus; you can't do it without consulting anyone. AJD 14:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I must completely disagree with anyone who says the war with Adams is non-notable even to Pfohozheimer House and its residents. As an actual RESIDENT of the house, I can tell you that the war is one of the most actively discussed points of Pforzheimer House history. This is the case because at Harvard, dinning hall privileges, especially at the houses closest to Harvard Yard, are coveted, and the Adams house war won Pfoho the most coveted eating privileges on the Harvard campus.
I will never understand these constant battles among some wiki editors to root out what they consider "fluff". Wikipedia is not paper - there is plenty of room for the most esoteric points on all subject matter. Just take a look at how in depth some of the pages on virtual worlds, or ficitional worlds gets. I'll take your fluff, and with it make a delicious fluffernutter sandwich of information for the wikipedia. Ivymike21 18:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
They're back! Yes, director Del Lord has done it again! Those lovable rapscallion Harvard boys are back in another laff-riot of hysterical hi-jinks! You'll split your sides at the zany antics of these merry pranksters. They'll tickle your funnybone as they warm your heart with their rollicking, merriment. This time, it's war—but, gee whillikers, what a war! You've never seen one like this! It's all good fun, and in the end, those collegiate rogues settle their differences peacefully in a madcap finale. A comic campus classic from the team that brought you "The Halfback of Notre Dame." Rated G.
To calibrate some of this discussion:
Three seem to me to actually be "about" Pforzheimer House:
Dpbsmith (talk) 23:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
UUCP removed the section on "Dispute with Adams on dining access" and reverted the section on "rechristening" with this edit comment:
The reinsertion of the "zealously defending" language was a mistake. My bad. I support the reversion. In fact I was the one who added the {{fact}} tag and certainly didn't intend to remove it.
As to the dining dispute, what makes it noteworthy is not my assertion that it's noteworthy, but the fact that the Harvard student newspaper thought it was worth a long article. I've explained above that I think that the Crimson is a reasonable judge of what's considered important to the Harvard community, and that the audience for this article is primarily the Harvard community. Dpbsmith (talk) 23:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm having trouble trying to reconcile material in a 1913 book about Radcliffe,
{{
cite book}}
: Unknown parameter |coauthors=
ignored (|author=
suggested) (
help). Brief text; content is mostly illustrations by John Albert Seaford
Online page images and PDF at Google Bookswith the statement in Pforzheimer House that
and in Pforzheimer House, that
The 1913 book says, on page 32 of the PDF (Google's page images show no page number on the original pages)
No residence facilities on Linnean Street or on the north side of the "playground" seem to be mentioned in this book. Which parts of Pforzheimer represent 1901 Radcliffe buildings? Did the 1913 book overlook a couple of dorms? Were some 1901 living quarters converted to some other purpose by 1913 and thus not mentioned? Dpbsmith (talk) 16:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Image:Pforzheimer house shield.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
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