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I marked this section as unverified because it has no sources at all. I also marked it as potentially nonfactual because of the vagueness and clumsiness of the wording. It almost seems like a greenwash of sorts. Toroxus ( talk) 01:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
The opening paragraph of the article states that petroleum jelly is "an topic ointment"? Is that really correct, or is it "a topical ointment" or at least "a topic ointment"? Eli lilly 01:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Petroleum Jelly is incredibly good for the skin if applied daily.
Also, is it true that the creator (or patenter) of petroleum jelly used to eat a spoonfull everyday? Anybody know what kind of effects petroleum jelly would have on you if eaten? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.2.43 ( talk • contribs) 22:28, 22 January 2005
I heard vaseline was such. Please add it to the article.
I use it as lubricant. I tried putting that down but someone reverted it. I'd like to ask...why?
Are there any negative effects if used on skin for an extended period of time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.79.66 ( talk • contribs) 21:13, 3 March 2005
Although talked about extensively in the History section, I note that dressing burns is not mentioned as an application in Uses. Should it be? In this regard it may be worth noting the BMJ letter at http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/327/7426/1289 which recommends against its use as first aid for burns. -- User:Daniel Barlow Tue Apr 4 20:53:45 BST 2006
I organized this into sections so the paragraphs contributed by 66.11.16.57 could be moved, but they really need to be rewritten. The abrupt change in voice is distracting, and they feel unencyclopedic to me. I do feel a "Uses" section might be useful though, so hopefully someone can improve it rather than just deleting them. Decklin 14:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
It should be noted that some sources
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/extract/327/7426/1289
I took "non-comedogenic" to mean "not lending itself to comedy", and was about to angrily quote some counter-examples. Having looked up "comedogenic", boy, do I feel silly now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.123.227.252 ( talk) 13:59, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
I forgot to log in when I made the edit, but I removed the reference to use on brass instrument valves. This is inaccurate; brass instrument valves have very tight clearances and must move very quickly, so they use thin distilled oils rather than heavy, viscous greases like petroleum jelly. It is possible to use petroleum jelly as a grease for tuning slides; however, I understand it may be more likely to corrode the brass or travel through the instrument and gum up the valves than dedicated slide greases. I don't know how well it does or doesn't work as a cork grease for larger woodwind instruments, so I left that statement.
-- Magnificat 16:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
All petroleum jelly brands are not Vaselin. It was strange to find Vasline the brand standing in for the whole petrlium jelly category. Please, separate Vaseline. - Aditya Kabir 09:56, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Kids with skin problems read this article. If someone wants to read about anal sex, they can go to that entry.
Comment: Shouldn't we at least mention it? it doesnt need to be specific. Im not trying to sound perverted, but this is an encyclopedia.-- Scabloo 02:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Comment: No, As in all wikipedia articles we should assume your 9 year old daughter and/or the most likely to be scarred/offended person/group is reading the article. Then we remove anything in the article that could possible offend/devastate the most fragile person you could imagine. ——Preceding unsigned comment added by Woofmaster ( talk • contribs)
What is the relationship between petroleum jelly and mineral oil? Mineral oil is described in the wiki as "liquid petrolatum" and a by-product of the gasoline-making process, but I'd like to know how the two substances are related -- is one "refined" into the other, or is a substance added to one to make the other? Also, both substances have similar uses (on the skin, etc.) and I'm wondering which is more useful in which circumstances. -- Hapax 05:53, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
They are all ALKANES of different sizes and their (phase =) form (liquid or mineral) is dependent on temperature. If one reads Wiki's articles on "alkanes", "paraffin" "mineral oil" and "paraffin wax" and "paraffin disambiguation" and some of their "SEEs" and "links" it would seem likely that "petroleum jelly" is either the transition area C=15-20 or is a solution of "lighter" (C=20-22) paraffin waxes in paraffin/mineral oil (C=12-18). Pharmaceutical mineral oil is probably very clean (contamination/solute free) mineral (paraffin) oil (and/or a particular small "fraction" from the distillation process. Someone with good editing skills and some understanding of simple hydrocarbon chemistry (unfortunately shades of gray) should "clean" all the above mentioned articles and add the "SEE" paragraphs where missing and suitable inserts therein. If this linking is emphasized it will aid inquirers' comprehension enormously Ecstatist ( talk) 21:50, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm removing it & putting in Vaseline (brand) in its place.
In the UK when a product's name, that has copyright and/or trademark protection , and when this "name" passes into the vernacular (becomes the common label attached to the product), the courts will not (or at least, are very reluctant) to prosecute the "misuse" of the name (I am not certain of this). Other examples are "nylon", "hoover", "cellophane", "neoprene" This pragmatic approach of the judiciary will be enhanced by not "capitalizing" the first letter. http://invention.smithsonian.org/centerpieces/whole_cloth/u7sf/u7materials/nylondrama.html Ecstatist ( talk) 21:01, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
In giving advice not to use petroleum in the nose, the article cited (reference #2) is a case report of a person who received petroleum-based dressings to an open wound in the chest. There is nothing in it about nasal use of petroleum causing lipoid pneumonia, and there are very few of these reported in the literature - and mainly in people with impaired cough reflexes. Making a blanket recommendation for such a rare complication may be a little aggressive.
Anyhow, here's a better reference for the aforementioned albeit rare complication: LinksBrown AC, Slocum PC, Putthoff SL, Wallace WE, Foresman BH. Exogenous lipoid pneumonia due to nasal application of petroleum jelly.Chest. 1994 Mar;105(3):968-9. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.231.71.2 ( talk) 19:43, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Please reference the sentence about effects of ciliary motility in the nose or remove the sentence. There are no references on Medline to support that statement. 192.231.71.2 ( talk) 20:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)mrwilson
Why do people add really trivial information that it is used in song lyrics or mentioned it on a talk show. Pointless trivia should be removed. Riveira2 ( talk) 08:34, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Riveira
Porsche references: A bit over-the top, and somewhat irrelevant to the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.244.243 ( talk) 16:32, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
We state: "The raw material for petroleum jelly was discovered in 1859 in Titusville, Pennsylvania, United States, on some of the country's first oil rigs". Titusville PA is an entirely land locked city. I'm not sure if the rig was somehow in the middle of a small lake or not, but "rig" applies to water apparatus only and are not general drilling terms. Tgm1024 ( talk) 17:26, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
On land, they're called Oil Derricks.
Since hydrophilic petrolatum is also available, how come petrolatum be hydrophobic? Any data on this would be greatly appreciated. -- Enigma ( talk) 04:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I ask this question because my doctor actually just instructed me to apply it to my nose for frequent nosebleeds (from dryness), but the "Nasal congestion or dryness" section seems contradict this. Is there a source stating it shouldn't be used in the nose? Paulish ( talk) 05:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
One thing that I don't think has been mentioned in the article, is the use of petroleum jelly on the terminals of lead-acid (car's and the like) batteries to keep out moisture and prevent corrosion. Trumpy ( talk) 14:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
The first statement in the "Uses" section:
"Chesebrough originally promoted Vaseline primarily as an ointment for scrapes, burns, and cuts, but physicians have shown that Vaseline has no medicinal effect nor any effect on the blistering process, nor is it absorbed by the skin. Vaseline’s effectiveness in accelerating wound healing stems from its sealing effect on cuts and burns, which inhibits germs from getting into the wound and keeps the injured area supple by preventing the skin's moisture from evaporating"
Seems inconsistent with this research: [1]
Thoughts?
( Sentients ( talk) 00:31, 20 November 2009 (UTC))
There are common claims that PJ should not be used as anal lubricant. This article confirms one of the claims, that PJ will break down latex, making it incompatible with condoms and other safe sex techs. This is not always a practical concern. Another claim which can be found repeated thousands of times by (often self-described) sex expert columnists is that PJ "traps bacteria". Well, it probably does. But, so what? This article does not mention any such risk, and I cannot find anything remotely like a primary source that mentions it. Can anyone provide one? Kjhdfkgh ( talk) 17:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
"it can be absorbed into the intestinal wall and may cause foreign-body granulamatous reactions" see Wiki " liquid paraffin (medicinal)" Ecstatist ( talk) 22:02, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
However, the best quote is found on page 69: "There is no justification for the use of liquid paraffin as a non-prescription laxative." And with that, there should be no further need for additions to the article in regards to bowels, bacteria, and human backsides. Senator2029 | talk 23:07, 8 October 2011 (UTC)Alan Nathan. Non-prescription medicines. London: Pharmaceutical Press; 2006 [cited October 8, 2011]. ISBN 978-0-85369-644-5. p. 68 (Full text via link.)
Page says "melting-point usually within a few degrees of 75°C (167°F)". That is too high. various MSDS list it as 36-60°C, on par with paraffin wax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.170.151.39 ( talk) 15:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
The figure of 75°C is way off, and so I changed it in the article from 75°C to approximately 37°C. Here's why:
The label says to call poison control if you swallow it, but isn't it widely known for its non-toxicity? If it wasn't safe to swallow I'd hate to think what would happen if it was applied to open wounds, which it obviously doesn't harm.
Do I even need to explain how ludicrous it is to imply that an ointment could 'trap heat' on burned skin? This is real life, not Rurouni Kenshin. The heat from a burn is on the stove or wherever you left it, not in your skin somehow. Skin is the same temperature as the surrounding air, give or take, but even fully trapping your body heat wouldn't make a difference on a burn, or you'd scald yourself with your own blood.
Why does Aquaphor redirect here? Aquaphor is NOT petroleum jelly. -- 74.179.122.10 ( talk) 06:14, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
What? Is it too much to ask for this phrase to be given in plain English? I don't think I've ever come across such a pretentious phrase as "obtaining physical purchase".
Now I come to think of it, it's such rubbish that I'll change it now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.16.81 ( talk) 11:52, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
It seems it isn't the PJ itself it's impurities. It seems to have started with this: http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/704786/PETROLATUM/ scroll down to find the impurities part, then go to here: http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/726345/PAHS/ . The information is thin but there are references on both pages. The problem is that anything made with PJ is suffering big downturns because "PJ causes cancer" has appeared all over the net. Sensationalism, alternate products taking advantage, and no reference checking as usual. Apparently, if it's pharmaceutical grade PJ it's fine. jayoval ( talk) 23:54, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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Please add its use as an https://www.google.com/search?q=vaseline+ant+barrier . Jidanni ( talk) 00:48, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
There is no information about how petroleum jelly is made, yet the patent from the original Vaseline dates back to the 19th century so it must be public by now, and there are probably other sources of information. Chimel31 ( talk) 09:16, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
I think the chemical formula for petroleum jelly on this page, C15H15N, 1,1,2-Trimethylbenzeindole, is incorrect.
My chemist's intuition would have that polyaromatic compound being a hard, crystalline material with a substantial vapor pressure and more cancer than you could shake a stick at, which petroleum jelly definitely isn't.
ECHA has petroleum jelly being a complex, mostly saturated hydrocarbon mixture. https://echa.europa.eu/substance-information/-/substanceinfo/100.029.428
"A complex combination of hydrocarbons obtained as a semi-solid from dewaxing paraffinic residual oil. It consists predominantly of saturated crystalline and liquid hydrocarbons having carbon numbers predominantly greater than C25."
NIH's TSCA definition is word-for-word the same as ECHA's. https://chem.nlm.nih.gov/chemidplus/rn/8009-03-8
Weirdly enough, PubChem has the 1,1,2-Trimethylbenzeindole structure listed. I personally contacted PubChem about it and got a response from Dr. Paul A. Thiessen. Apparently Acros Organics erroneously supplied petrolatum as a synonym for the compound a year ago, and that error has propagated all over the place. They're in the process of changing it.
Companies like the Chinese chemical catalogs that are the current source for this information (ChemsRC and ChemicalBook) get their info by scrubbing it from PubChem and other sources.
I'm suggesting we change the article to reflect the ECHA/TSCA definition of petrolatum being a saturated hydrocarbon mixture.
Rdnckj258 ( talk) 23:31, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
it's not clear whether the comment about UV protection refers to ordinary petroleum jelly or to the RedVetPet mentioned in the previous sentence. 84.71.45.82 ( talk) 23:19, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
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I marked this section as unverified because it has no sources at all. I also marked it as potentially nonfactual because of the vagueness and clumsiness of the wording. It almost seems like a greenwash of sorts. Toroxus ( talk) 01:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
The opening paragraph of the article states that petroleum jelly is "an topic ointment"? Is that really correct, or is it "a topical ointment" or at least "a topic ointment"? Eli lilly 01:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Petroleum Jelly is incredibly good for the skin if applied daily.
Also, is it true that the creator (or patenter) of petroleum jelly used to eat a spoonfull everyday? Anybody know what kind of effects petroleum jelly would have on you if eaten? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.2.43 ( talk • contribs) 22:28, 22 January 2005
I heard vaseline was such. Please add it to the article.
I use it as lubricant. I tried putting that down but someone reverted it. I'd like to ask...why?
Are there any negative effects if used on skin for an extended period of time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.79.66 ( talk • contribs) 21:13, 3 March 2005
Although talked about extensively in the History section, I note that dressing burns is not mentioned as an application in Uses. Should it be? In this regard it may be worth noting the BMJ letter at http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/327/7426/1289 which recommends against its use as first aid for burns. -- User:Daniel Barlow Tue Apr 4 20:53:45 BST 2006
I organized this into sections so the paragraphs contributed by 66.11.16.57 could be moved, but they really need to be rewritten. The abrupt change in voice is distracting, and they feel unencyclopedic to me. I do feel a "Uses" section might be useful though, so hopefully someone can improve it rather than just deleting them. Decklin 14:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
It should be noted that some sources
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/extract/327/7426/1289
I took "non-comedogenic" to mean "not lending itself to comedy", and was about to angrily quote some counter-examples. Having looked up "comedogenic", boy, do I feel silly now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.123.227.252 ( talk) 13:59, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
I forgot to log in when I made the edit, but I removed the reference to use on brass instrument valves. This is inaccurate; brass instrument valves have very tight clearances and must move very quickly, so they use thin distilled oils rather than heavy, viscous greases like petroleum jelly. It is possible to use petroleum jelly as a grease for tuning slides; however, I understand it may be more likely to corrode the brass or travel through the instrument and gum up the valves than dedicated slide greases. I don't know how well it does or doesn't work as a cork grease for larger woodwind instruments, so I left that statement.
-- Magnificat 16:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
All petroleum jelly brands are not Vaselin. It was strange to find Vasline the brand standing in for the whole petrlium jelly category. Please, separate Vaseline. - Aditya Kabir 09:56, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Kids with skin problems read this article. If someone wants to read about anal sex, they can go to that entry.
Comment: Shouldn't we at least mention it? it doesnt need to be specific. Im not trying to sound perverted, but this is an encyclopedia.-- Scabloo 02:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Comment: No, As in all wikipedia articles we should assume your 9 year old daughter and/or the most likely to be scarred/offended person/group is reading the article. Then we remove anything in the article that could possible offend/devastate the most fragile person you could imagine. ——Preceding unsigned comment added by Woofmaster ( talk • contribs)
What is the relationship between petroleum jelly and mineral oil? Mineral oil is described in the wiki as "liquid petrolatum" and a by-product of the gasoline-making process, but I'd like to know how the two substances are related -- is one "refined" into the other, or is a substance added to one to make the other? Also, both substances have similar uses (on the skin, etc.) and I'm wondering which is more useful in which circumstances. -- Hapax 05:53, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
They are all ALKANES of different sizes and their (phase =) form (liquid or mineral) is dependent on temperature. If one reads Wiki's articles on "alkanes", "paraffin" "mineral oil" and "paraffin wax" and "paraffin disambiguation" and some of their "SEEs" and "links" it would seem likely that "petroleum jelly" is either the transition area C=15-20 or is a solution of "lighter" (C=20-22) paraffin waxes in paraffin/mineral oil (C=12-18). Pharmaceutical mineral oil is probably very clean (contamination/solute free) mineral (paraffin) oil (and/or a particular small "fraction" from the distillation process. Someone with good editing skills and some understanding of simple hydrocarbon chemistry (unfortunately shades of gray) should "clean" all the above mentioned articles and add the "SEE" paragraphs where missing and suitable inserts therein. If this linking is emphasized it will aid inquirers' comprehension enormously Ecstatist ( talk) 21:50, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm removing it & putting in Vaseline (brand) in its place.
In the UK when a product's name, that has copyright and/or trademark protection , and when this "name" passes into the vernacular (becomes the common label attached to the product), the courts will not (or at least, are very reluctant) to prosecute the "misuse" of the name (I am not certain of this). Other examples are "nylon", "hoover", "cellophane", "neoprene" This pragmatic approach of the judiciary will be enhanced by not "capitalizing" the first letter. http://invention.smithsonian.org/centerpieces/whole_cloth/u7sf/u7materials/nylondrama.html Ecstatist ( talk) 21:01, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
In giving advice not to use petroleum in the nose, the article cited (reference #2) is a case report of a person who received petroleum-based dressings to an open wound in the chest. There is nothing in it about nasal use of petroleum causing lipoid pneumonia, and there are very few of these reported in the literature - and mainly in people with impaired cough reflexes. Making a blanket recommendation for such a rare complication may be a little aggressive.
Anyhow, here's a better reference for the aforementioned albeit rare complication: LinksBrown AC, Slocum PC, Putthoff SL, Wallace WE, Foresman BH. Exogenous lipoid pneumonia due to nasal application of petroleum jelly.Chest. 1994 Mar;105(3):968-9. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.231.71.2 ( talk) 19:43, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Please reference the sentence about effects of ciliary motility in the nose or remove the sentence. There are no references on Medline to support that statement. 192.231.71.2 ( talk) 20:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)mrwilson
Why do people add really trivial information that it is used in song lyrics or mentioned it on a talk show. Pointless trivia should be removed. Riveira2 ( talk) 08:34, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Riveira
Porsche references: A bit over-the top, and somewhat irrelevant to the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.244.243 ( talk) 16:32, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
We state: "The raw material for petroleum jelly was discovered in 1859 in Titusville, Pennsylvania, United States, on some of the country's first oil rigs". Titusville PA is an entirely land locked city. I'm not sure if the rig was somehow in the middle of a small lake or not, but "rig" applies to water apparatus only and are not general drilling terms. Tgm1024 ( talk) 17:26, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
On land, they're called Oil Derricks.
Since hydrophilic petrolatum is also available, how come petrolatum be hydrophobic? Any data on this would be greatly appreciated. -- Enigma ( talk) 04:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I ask this question because my doctor actually just instructed me to apply it to my nose for frequent nosebleeds (from dryness), but the "Nasal congestion or dryness" section seems contradict this. Is there a source stating it shouldn't be used in the nose? Paulish ( talk) 05:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
One thing that I don't think has been mentioned in the article, is the use of petroleum jelly on the terminals of lead-acid (car's and the like) batteries to keep out moisture and prevent corrosion. Trumpy ( talk) 14:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
The first statement in the "Uses" section:
"Chesebrough originally promoted Vaseline primarily as an ointment for scrapes, burns, and cuts, but physicians have shown that Vaseline has no medicinal effect nor any effect on the blistering process, nor is it absorbed by the skin. Vaseline’s effectiveness in accelerating wound healing stems from its sealing effect on cuts and burns, which inhibits germs from getting into the wound and keeps the injured area supple by preventing the skin's moisture from evaporating"
Seems inconsistent with this research: [1]
Thoughts?
( Sentients ( talk) 00:31, 20 November 2009 (UTC))
There are common claims that PJ should not be used as anal lubricant. This article confirms one of the claims, that PJ will break down latex, making it incompatible with condoms and other safe sex techs. This is not always a practical concern. Another claim which can be found repeated thousands of times by (often self-described) sex expert columnists is that PJ "traps bacteria". Well, it probably does. But, so what? This article does not mention any such risk, and I cannot find anything remotely like a primary source that mentions it. Can anyone provide one? Kjhdfkgh ( talk) 17:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
"it can be absorbed into the intestinal wall and may cause foreign-body granulamatous reactions" see Wiki " liquid paraffin (medicinal)" Ecstatist ( talk) 22:02, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
However, the best quote is found on page 69: "There is no justification for the use of liquid paraffin as a non-prescription laxative." And with that, there should be no further need for additions to the article in regards to bowels, bacteria, and human backsides. Senator2029 | talk 23:07, 8 October 2011 (UTC)Alan Nathan. Non-prescription medicines. London: Pharmaceutical Press; 2006 [cited October 8, 2011]. ISBN 978-0-85369-644-5. p. 68 (Full text via link.)
Page says "melting-point usually within a few degrees of 75°C (167°F)". That is too high. various MSDS list it as 36-60°C, on par with paraffin wax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.170.151.39 ( talk) 15:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
The figure of 75°C is way off, and so I changed it in the article from 75°C to approximately 37°C. Here's why:
The label says to call poison control if you swallow it, but isn't it widely known for its non-toxicity? If it wasn't safe to swallow I'd hate to think what would happen if it was applied to open wounds, which it obviously doesn't harm.
Do I even need to explain how ludicrous it is to imply that an ointment could 'trap heat' on burned skin? This is real life, not Rurouni Kenshin. The heat from a burn is on the stove or wherever you left it, not in your skin somehow. Skin is the same temperature as the surrounding air, give or take, but even fully trapping your body heat wouldn't make a difference on a burn, or you'd scald yourself with your own blood.
Why does Aquaphor redirect here? Aquaphor is NOT petroleum jelly. -- 74.179.122.10 ( talk) 06:14, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
What? Is it too much to ask for this phrase to be given in plain English? I don't think I've ever come across such a pretentious phrase as "obtaining physical purchase".
Now I come to think of it, it's such rubbish that I'll change it now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.16.81 ( talk) 11:52, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
It seems it isn't the PJ itself it's impurities. It seems to have started with this: http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/704786/PETROLATUM/ scroll down to find the impurities part, then go to here: http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/726345/PAHS/ . The information is thin but there are references on both pages. The problem is that anything made with PJ is suffering big downturns because "PJ causes cancer" has appeared all over the net. Sensationalism, alternate products taking advantage, and no reference checking as usual. Apparently, if it's pharmaceutical grade PJ it's fine. jayoval ( talk) 23:54, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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Please add its use as an https://www.google.com/search?q=vaseline+ant+barrier . Jidanni ( talk) 00:48, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
There is no information about how petroleum jelly is made, yet the patent from the original Vaseline dates back to the 19th century so it must be public by now, and there are probably other sources of information. Chimel31 ( talk) 09:16, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
I think the chemical formula for petroleum jelly on this page, C15H15N, 1,1,2-Trimethylbenzeindole, is incorrect.
My chemist's intuition would have that polyaromatic compound being a hard, crystalline material with a substantial vapor pressure and more cancer than you could shake a stick at, which petroleum jelly definitely isn't.
ECHA has petroleum jelly being a complex, mostly saturated hydrocarbon mixture. https://echa.europa.eu/substance-information/-/substanceinfo/100.029.428
"A complex combination of hydrocarbons obtained as a semi-solid from dewaxing paraffinic residual oil. It consists predominantly of saturated crystalline and liquid hydrocarbons having carbon numbers predominantly greater than C25."
NIH's TSCA definition is word-for-word the same as ECHA's. https://chem.nlm.nih.gov/chemidplus/rn/8009-03-8
Weirdly enough, PubChem has the 1,1,2-Trimethylbenzeindole structure listed. I personally contacted PubChem about it and got a response from Dr. Paul A. Thiessen. Apparently Acros Organics erroneously supplied petrolatum as a synonym for the compound a year ago, and that error has propagated all over the place. They're in the process of changing it.
Companies like the Chinese chemical catalogs that are the current source for this information (ChemsRC and ChemicalBook) get their info by scrubbing it from PubChem and other sources.
I'm suggesting we change the article to reflect the ECHA/TSCA definition of petrolatum being a saturated hydrocarbon mixture.
Rdnckj258 ( talk) 23:31, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
it's not clear whether the comment about UV protection refers to ordinary petroleum jelly or to the RedVetPet mentioned in the previous sentence. 84.71.45.82 ( talk) 23:19, 22 January 2022 (UTC)