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We have established a fund for the victims of our family clan of O'Carroll, Carroll, at http://www.geocities.com/marbme12/thecarrollfoundation.html, or through our family clan site of the O'Carroll's at http://www.clancian-carroll.com, under side bar News Flash. We express our deepest regret and sympathy for the surviving family members.
Mary Bower of O'Carroll Family
It is past my bedtime. This entry in the Talk needs it own page. I came by it only because it is linked to Casualties of the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks: City of New York.
Thanks, this is so depressing.
Note: The comments above refer to an old version of this article which discussed a firefighter who died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. His article has been moved to Wikimemorial and this page made into a redirect. Subsequently, the page was edited to be an article about a different man by the same name. Hence the confusion in the comment below. Rossami
Original saying? Doubtful..
Nobody who wants political power should have it.
Pulled this sentence based on M.C. ArZeCh's comment above. If he can reliably be credited with the invention of this term, please souce it and add the comment back. Rossami
Whether he was the first to include the words "chaos" and "magic" side by side in the same phrase is beside the point. It is beyond dispute that anyone contemporary involved with Chaos Magic acknowledges Carrol as the progenitor of the phrase whether they agree with his techniques or not. RSRC -- GeMLuRe 16:26, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Pulled this paragraph as unverified and/or non-encyclopedic. I find it completely non-credible that someone could be "revered as a god by indigenous locals" in the 20th century. After this was pulled once, Faedra left a note on my Talk page that this was "told in person to the contributor during a long period of association and frienship." Tall tales told by the subject of an article are still not encyclopedic unless you intend to illustrate that the subject is a teller of tall tales. Only add this anecdote back to the article if the facts can be independently sourced. Rossami
Peter Carroll is my dad, I have grown up with these tales of his times in India, and the occasion when their boat was wrecked in a monsoon. -He, my Mother and some other travellers spent 6 months renovating an old dug out canoe near Goa, equipping it with sails, anchors etc... which they planned to sail to Sri Lanka- however never got there because of getting wrecked a few months into their expedition. -This much I can confirm as I have seen the pictures. Compared with the rest of my parents stories, just the idea of natives having never seen white people pales in comparison to other extaordinary events. Hope this clears it up a bit.
Trivia that you will not find in well-written encyclopedia articles about other historical figures. Rossami
Quotes pulled out. In addition to my concerns above, quotes generally belong in Wikiquote. Rossami
This paragraph smacks of vanity but I couldn't quite figure out how to fix it. Thoughts? Rossami
To answer this question please see the question here on the Chaos Magic talk page. FK0071a 23:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
This article was recently nominated for deletion and speedily kept. It's certainly not appropriate to speedy delete it. — Hanuman Das 06:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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This is a pretty bold claim. The source is Carroll making this claim in an interview. The prose reads as though a third party said this about him, though I can't find any who did. I believe that as per WP:Interview it should be made clear that this is a quote from Carroll himself.
@ Skyerise:
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We have established a fund for the victims of our family clan of O'Carroll, Carroll, at http://www.geocities.com/marbme12/thecarrollfoundation.html, or through our family clan site of the O'Carroll's at http://www.clancian-carroll.com, under side bar News Flash. We express our deepest regret and sympathy for the surviving family members.
Mary Bower of O'Carroll Family
It is past my bedtime. This entry in the Talk needs it own page. I came by it only because it is linked to Casualties of the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks: City of New York.
Thanks, this is so depressing.
Note: The comments above refer to an old version of this article which discussed a firefighter who died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. His article has been moved to Wikimemorial and this page made into a redirect. Subsequently, the page was edited to be an article about a different man by the same name. Hence the confusion in the comment below. Rossami
Original saying? Doubtful..
Nobody who wants political power should have it.
Pulled this sentence based on M.C. ArZeCh's comment above. If he can reliably be credited with the invention of this term, please souce it and add the comment back. Rossami
Whether he was the first to include the words "chaos" and "magic" side by side in the same phrase is beside the point. It is beyond dispute that anyone contemporary involved with Chaos Magic acknowledges Carrol as the progenitor of the phrase whether they agree with his techniques or not. RSRC -- GeMLuRe 16:26, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Pulled this paragraph as unverified and/or non-encyclopedic. I find it completely non-credible that someone could be "revered as a god by indigenous locals" in the 20th century. After this was pulled once, Faedra left a note on my Talk page that this was "told in person to the contributor during a long period of association and frienship." Tall tales told by the subject of an article are still not encyclopedic unless you intend to illustrate that the subject is a teller of tall tales. Only add this anecdote back to the article if the facts can be independently sourced. Rossami
Peter Carroll is my dad, I have grown up with these tales of his times in India, and the occasion when their boat was wrecked in a monsoon. -He, my Mother and some other travellers spent 6 months renovating an old dug out canoe near Goa, equipping it with sails, anchors etc... which they planned to sail to Sri Lanka- however never got there because of getting wrecked a few months into their expedition. -This much I can confirm as I have seen the pictures. Compared with the rest of my parents stories, just the idea of natives having never seen white people pales in comparison to other extaordinary events. Hope this clears it up a bit.
Trivia that you will not find in well-written encyclopedia articles about other historical figures. Rossami
Quotes pulled out. In addition to my concerns above, quotes generally belong in Wikiquote. Rossami
This paragraph smacks of vanity but I couldn't quite figure out how to fix it. Thoughts? Rossami
To answer this question please see the question here on the Chaos Magic talk page. FK0071a 23:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
This article was recently nominated for deletion and speedily kept. It's certainly not appropriate to speedy delete it. — Hanuman Das 06:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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The text says:
This is a pretty bold claim. The source is Carroll making this claim in an interview. The prose reads as though a third party said this about him, though I can't find any who did. I believe that as per WP:Interview it should be made clear that this is a quote from Carroll himself.
@ Skyerise:
99.33.184.99 ( talk) 20:27, 5 September 2022 (UTC)