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The details about Alan Joyce need to be related to the CEO letter. At present, there is no connection between then two. Cyeks5Om 11 May 2017 —Preceding undated comment added 01:59, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Re: these edits: [1] [2] [3] [4] - given that the title/headline of the reference cited is "Peter Dutton working behind the scenes to legislate same-sex marriage before CEO spray" I think that only saying "Dutton opposes same-sex marriage" is misleading. Mitch Ames ( talk) 10:48, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
I think the text as it currently stands (your bit) is misleading as well as it suggests that Dutton is working to bring about same-sex marriage— Neither my earlier wording nor the current text suggests any such thing - it states (now with inline citation) his personal opposition to same-sex marriage and quotes the source on his belief that it is inevitable. The Wikipedia article makes no mention of Dutton working to bring it about - although the reference does say that explicitly, so perhaps Wikipedia also ought to say it explicitly.
... even if the majority of Australians voted for same-sex marriage, numerous conservative politicians have said they still wouldn't vote for it in parliament (which means it would not achieve any change in legislature). [7] ...— That may be the case, but ABC news article you cite does not mention Dutton at all, so carries no weight here. (At best it is WP:SYN.)
... I think an improvement on the current text should include clearly that while Dutton may have "privately" said what you wrote, publicly all his actions and words have been against same-sex marriage.— That may well be the case – if you can provide some references to support the statement that "publicly all his actions and words have been against same-sex marriage". Mitch Ames ( talk) 07:02, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
There is already an earlier section under the sub heading "2017 same sex marriage" that has more detail of his strong public stance against same-sex marriage.– As far as I can tell most of that section, and the references, is about Dutton's view that CEOs ought not express an opinion on same-sex marriage, not about Dutton's own view on same-sex marriage.
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Doubts surrounding Dutton's eligibility to be elected to parliament emerged on the grounds of section 44(v) of the Australian Constitution, and Labor had sought legal advice on the matter in April 2018. The section prohibits those with a pecuniary interest in an agreement with the Commonwealth from running for office. The family trust owned by Dutton operated a child care centre that received over $5.6 million in funding from the Commonwealth Government. A similar scenario with a Commonwealth-funded building company saw Senator Bob Day effectively disqualified by the High Court in 2017. Although Dutton has received legal advice stating that he is not in breach of the constitution, Attorney-General Christian Porter referred the matter to the Solicitor-General of Australia. [1]
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Thank you. -- 122.108.141.214 ( talk) 23:02, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
When the news of the au pair visa linked to AFL CEO Gil McLachlan broke, it was reported as a third visa case. But later reporting seems to only be talking about the Italian and French au pair cases, rather than those two plus a third unknown one. Is it possible that the McLachlan case is just the original November case? -- James ( talk) 04:39, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
In the article, it seems that there are lines of quotes specifically praising Dutton's policy announcement whilst it a) Wasn't something that Dutton himself did, said or made but was part of Coalition worked policy and b) seems to violate wikipedia's non-neutrality position. Aneditor (talk tome) 08:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
The content under "Violence" needs attention. It reads as though all of Melbourne ridiculed Peter Dutton. Ridicule on social media should be described as such. I don't think such a thin line warrants its own heading. User: LyndellaLee — Preceding unsigned comment added by LyndellaLee ( talk • contribs) 00:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
It seems to me that the info in the last section of the article titled "personal life" would best fit under the earlier section "early life" as the information about his personal life only goes to 2003, which is before and slightly overlapping in timeline with the next section "Howard Government" from 2001-2007. And/or to split the information in "early life" between the personal and "early career" as the two are currently mixed under one section. How do others feel about this? Powertothepeople ( talk) 07:39, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
There have been at least high profile court cases where Dutton has sued someone in the last few years. There is nothing on this page about any cases. I was seeking information because I couldn't remember if Dutton had been involved in another case or not, and came to Wikipedia, but found nothing at all about defamation cases.
E.g.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/29/awarding-248000-in-legal-costs-would-be-a-windfall-for-shane-bazzi-peter-dutton-warns "Awarding $248,000 in legal costs would be a ‘windfall’ for Shane Bazzi, Peter Dutton warns" is a recent article about one case.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/peter-dutton-wins-defamation-case-against-shane-bazzi/100645832 is another article on the same case.
Please consider adding information to this article about this (and any other) cases.
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Or it's possible that I just didn't see it on my first look at the article...
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The Prasser family had multiple perminent residencies long before the Dutton family & their first (perminent residence) home was built by the Prasser family. The Prasser family owns the sovereignty of Queensland Australia which was established in 1919, then in 2014 We gave the land back to it's original owners the "Sovereign Yidindji Government" The current Government of Queensland is false & will be dealt with accordingly.
PLease fix this as now it seems like a media take over as opposed to the rightous truth ! 2403:580B:605A:0:50AE:F006:67F1:78DB ( talk) 05:40, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
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The details about Alan Joyce need to be related to the CEO letter. At present, there is no connection between then two. Cyeks5Om 11 May 2017 —Preceding undated comment added 01:59, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Re: these edits: [1] [2] [3] [4] - given that the title/headline of the reference cited is "Peter Dutton working behind the scenes to legislate same-sex marriage before CEO spray" I think that only saying "Dutton opposes same-sex marriage" is misleading. Mitch Ames ( talk) 10:48, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
I think the text as it currently stands (your bit) is misleading as well as it suggests that Dutton is working to bring about same-sex marriage— Neither my earlier wording nor the current text suggests any such thing - it states (now with inline citation) his personal opposition to same-sex marriage and quotes the source on his belief that it is inevitable. The Wikipedia article makes no mention of Dutton working to bring it about - although the reference does say that explicitly, so perhaps Wikipedia also ought to say it explicitly.
... even if the majority of Australians voted for same-sex marriage, numerous conservative politicians have said they still wouldn't vote for it in parliament (which means it would not achieve any change in legislature). [7] ...— That may be the case, but ABC news article you cite does not mention Dutton at all, so carries no weight here. (At best it is WP:SYN.)
... I think an improvement on the current text should include clearly that while Dutton may have "privately" said what you wrote, publicly all his actions and words have been against same-sex marriage.— That may well be the case – if you can provide some references to support the statement that "publicly all his actions and words have been against same-sex marriage". Mitch Ames ( talk) 07:02, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
There is already an earlier section under the sub heading "2017 same sex marriage" that has more detail of his strong public stance against same-sex marriage.– As far as I can tell most of that section, and the references, is about Dutton's view that CEOs ought not express an opinion on same-sex marriage, not about Dutton's own view on same-sex marriage.
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Doubts surrounding Dutton's eligibility to be elected to parliament emerged on the grounds of section 44(v) of the Australian Constitution, and Labor had sought legal advice on the matter in April 2018. The section prohibits those with a pecuniary interest in an agreement with the Commonwealth from running for office. The family trust owned by Dutton operated a child care centre that received over $5.6 million in funding from the Commonwealth Government. A similar scenario with a Commonwealth-funded building company saw Senator Bob Day effectively disqualified by the High Court in 2017. Although Dutton has received legal advice stating that he is not in breach of the constitution, Attorney-General Christian Porter referred the matter to the Solicitor-General of Australia. [1]
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Thank you. -- 122.108.141.214 ( talk) 23:02, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
When the news of the au pair visa linked to AFL CEO Gil McLachlan broke, it was reported as a third visa case. But later reporting seems to only be talking about the Italian and French au pair cases, rather than those two plus a third unknown one. Is it possible that the McLachlan case is just the original November case? -- James ( talk) 04:39, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
In the article, it seems that there are lines of quotes specifically praising Dutton's policy announcement whilst it a) Wasn't something that Dutton himself did, said or made but was part of Coalition worked policy and b) seems to violate wikipedia's non-neutrality position. Aneditor (talk tome) 08:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
The content under "Violence" needs attention. It reads as though all of Melbourne ridiculed Peter Dutton. Ridicule on social media should be described as such. I don't think such a thin line warrants its own heading. User: LyndellaLee — Preceding unsigned comment added by LyndellaLee ( talk • contribs) 00:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
It seems to me that the info in the last section of the article titled "personal life" would best fit under the earlier section "early life" as the information about his personal life only goes to 2003, which is before and slightly overlapping in timeline with the next section "Howard Government" from 2001-2007. And/or to split the information in "early life" between the personal and "early career" as the two are currently mixed under one section. How do others feel about this? Powertothepeople ( talk) 07:39, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
There have been at least high profile court cases where Dutton has sued someone in the last few years. There is nothing on this page about any cases. I was seeking information because I couldn't remember if Dutton had been involved in another case or not, and came to Wikipedia, but found nothing at all about defamation cases.
E.g.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/29/awarding-248000-in-legal-costs-would-be-a-windfall-for-shane-bazzi-peter-dutton-warns "Awarding $248,000 in legal costs would be a ‘windfall’ for Shane Bazzi, Peter Dutton warns" is a recent article about one case.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/peter-dutton-wins-defamation-case-against-shane-bazzi/100645832 is another article on the same case.
Please consider adding information to this article about this (and any other) cases.
202.14.131.60 (
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Or it's possible that I just didn't see it on my first look at the article...
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The Prasser family had multiple perminent residencies long before the Dutton family & their first (perminent residence) home was built by the Prasser family. The Prasser family owns the sovereignty of Queensland Australia which was established in 1919, then in 2014 We gave the land back to it's original owners the "Sovereign Yidindji Government" The current Government of Queensland is false & will be dealt with accordingly.
PLease fix this as now it seems like a media take over as opposed to the rightous truth ! 2403:580B:605A:0:50AE:F006:67F1:78DB ( talk) 05:40, 17 March 2023 (UTC)