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Am I correct in thinking that the edit linking The Flight of Dragons book to a page on the film of the book should more properly be linked to a reference in the main body of the article? Perhaps what is needed is a section on TV/Film adaptations. The Devil's Children was televised (and shortlisted for a BAFTA). There are probably others.-- Plad2 ( talk) 07:12, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Is there really anything in the film that's based on the book, other than the title? I'm considering removing the "partly based on" phrase. The book is a really, really clever explanation of how huge dragons can get around the volume/area scaling problem of winged flight that turns out also to explain everything from why they breathe fire to why you have to sacrifice maidens to them, while the movie is a piece of fluff. Briankharvey ( talk) 20:35, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Beside more important things, I have arranged most of the list of Works in two columns. In retrospect I see that with a narrow screen the layout would be much superior with "Children's picture books" at the bottom of the first column.
There were several Works listings with (usually parenthetical) notes "also published as alternative title" or "apa alternative title. The later is no good at all but the former is too long, especially in the two-column layout. So I have presumed that the given primary titles were original, the alternatives subsequent, and have converted all to "; later, alternative title".
Where alternative titles are those for U.S. editions of identical works, many of our author biographies and book articles use "; or alternative title (US)" or "in the US, alternative title". That is better if the alternatives are in fact U.S. titles.
For those works and editions covered by ISFDB, it is a priceless source on alternative titles. It provides so much data including exact title, and dollar/pounds symbols identify U.S./U.K. editions even if publisher is unknown or missing. (Of course some data are missing and some editions are missing.) -- P64 ( talk) 21:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Although this is a children's book, and it includes pictures, it is not a "children's picture book." It's mostly text; it has a plot; it is aimed at older children (10-year-olds, maybe?). I moved it up. Briankharvey ( talk) 20:44, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Here are bibliographical notes on the seven books including Time that Dickinson groups as "Children's Picture Books". LCCatalog is the default source but lead numerical links are WorldCat "Formats and Editions" ordered by date.
IICC, only Chuck and Danielle among the seven was illustrated by different people for the first UK and US editions. Pauline Baynes illustrated a later UK edition of Iron Lion. Some others may have multiple illustrators too.
WorldCat data for the two not in LCCatalog.
[7] Time and the Clock Mice, Etcetera
-- P64 ( talk) 21:12, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
The article notes that he is the hero of a series, but says nothing else about him, e.g., London police detective, stuck in his career, tends to get weird cases, etc. Should I add all that? Briankharvey ( talk) 20:44, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
External links {{ Authority control}} provides some library catalogue data.
Dickinson is not at British Council [...]
Brian Alderson (2008) is substantial. Although I have promoted it from further reading to a formal reference I have barely utilized it.
Dickinson's Phoenix Award acceptance speeches (2001 and 2008) are available online. They are substantial.
-- P64 ( talk) 21:53, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
We do not put Dickinson in any {{ infobox writer}} genre(s). In the lead we say especially "children's books and detective stories" which suggests but doesn't say especially detective stories when not writing for children. In Works our subsection heading is Mystery fiction for adults. In the footer we cat him (English) crime fiction writers and (Eng) fantasy.
Elsewhere we distinguish crime fiction, detective stories, and mystery fiction.
What about science fiction v fantasy?
How many of the CYA novels are realist rather than speculative fiction? and/or contemporary, historical fiction, prehistorical?
-- P64 ( talk) 20:03, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Peterdickinson.com has been revamped. (I imagine that "they" noticed my 2012-12-16 citation of the long page, "Books for Children and Young Adults" updated 24 June 2008.)
For example "Books for Children and Young Adults" has been replaced by at least 38 pages, one each for 37 books under a directory to which the old link now redirects.( old link) Dickinson's prose introduction to each book now appears in the middle of its page as the Author Comment in italics.( Eva, for example)
"Talks and Essays" separately presents some material formerly linked to the books.
"Books" now purportedly covers all of his books. At least coarsely it classifies all but three.
His latest book is published by "Peter Dickinson Books". -- P64 ( talk) 21:54, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
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excuse me but why there is no any photo? 178.66.201.155 ( talk) 15:17, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
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Am I correct in thinking that the edit linking The Flight of Dragons book to a page on the film of the book should more properly be linked to a reference in the main body of the article? Perhaps what is needed is a section on TV/Film adaptations. The Devil's Children was televised (and shortlisted for a BAFTA). There are probably others.-- Plad2 ( talk) 07:12, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Is there really anything in the film that's based on the book, other than the title? I'm considering removing the "partly based on" phrase. The book is a really, really clever explanation of how huge dragons can get around the volume/area scaling problem of winged flight that turns out also to explain everything from why they breathe fire to why you have to sacrifice maidens to them, while the movie is a piece of fluff. Briankharvey ( talk) 20:35, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Beside more important things, I have arranged most of the list of Works in two columns. In retrospect I see that with a narrow screen the layout would be much superior with "Children's picture books" at the bottom of the first column.
There were several Works listings with (usually parenthetical) notes "also published as alternative title" or "apa alternative title. The later is no good at all but the former is too long, especially in the two-column layout. So I have presumed that the given primary titles were original, the alternatives subsequent, and have converted all to "; later, alternative title".
Where alternative titles are those for U.S. editions of identical works, many of our author biographies and book articles use "; or alternative title (US)" or "in the US, alternative title". That is better if the alternatives are in fact U.S. titles.
For those works and editions covered by ISFDB, it is a priceless source on alternative titles. It provides so much data including exact title, and dollar/pounds symbols identify U.S./U.K. editions even if publisher is unknown or missing. (Of course some data are missing and some editions are missing.) -- P64 ( talk) 21:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Although this is a children's book, and it includes pictures, it is not a "children's picture book." It's mostly text; it has a plot; it is aimed at older children (10-year-olds, maybe?). I moved it up. Briankharvey ( talk) 20:44, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Here are bibliographical notes on the seven books including Time that Dickinson groups as "Children's Picture Books". LCCatalog is the default source but lead numerical links are WorldCat "Formats and Editions" ordered by date.
IICC, only Chuck and Danielle among the seven was illustrated by different people for the first UK and US editions. Pauline Baynes illustrated a later UK edition of Iron Lion. Some others may have multiple illustrators too.
WorldCat data for the two not in LCCatalog.
[7] Time and the Clock Mice, Etcetera
-- P64 ( talk) 21:12, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
The article notes that he is the hero of a series, but says nothing else about him, e.g., London police detective, stuck in his career, tends to get weird cases, etc. Should I add all that? Briankharvey ( talk) 20:44, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
External links {{ Authority control}} provides some library catalogue data.
Dickinson is not at British Council [...]
Brian Alderson (2008) is substantial. Although I have promoted it from further reading to a formal reference I have barely utilized it.
Dickinson's Phoenix Award acceptance speeches (2001 and 2008) are available online. They are substantial.
-- P64 ( talk) 21:53, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
We do not put Dickinson in any {{ infobox writer}} genre(s). In the lead we say especially "children's books and detective stories" which suggests but doesn't say especially detective stories when not writing for children. In Works our subsection heading is Mystery fiction for adults. In the footer we cat him (English) crime fiction writers and (Eng) fantasy.
Elsewhere we distinguish crime fiction, detective stories, and mystery fiction.
What about science fiction v fantasy?
How many of the CYA novels are realist rather than speculative fiction? and/or contemporary, historical fiction, prehistorical?
-- P64 ( talk) 20:03, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Peterdickinson.com has been revamped. (I imagine that "they" noticed my 2012-12-16 citation of the long page, "Books for Children and Young Adults" updated 24 June 2008.)
For example "Books for Children and Young Adults" has been replaced by at least 38 pages, one each for 37 books under a directory to which the old link now redirects.( old link) Dickinson's prose introduction to each book now appears in the middle of its page as the Author Comment in italics.( Eva, for example)
"Talks and Essays" separately presents some material formerly linked to the books.
"Books" now purportedly covers all of his books. At least coarsely it classifies all but three.
His latest book is published by "Peter Dickinson Books". -- P64 ( talk) 21:54, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
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excuse me but why there is no any photo? 178.66.201.155 ( talk) 15:17, 19 January 2018 (UTC)