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The stadium plan has been scrapped. Perth Now media release Aaroncrick (Tassie talk) 06:27, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian ( talk) 12:23, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Perth Stadium → New Perth stadium – No official name for the stadium has been determined yet, and there isn't really a common name, either. "New Perth stadium" has a precedent with other articles in the proposed stadiums category, and might assist readers in searching for the article. I ♦ A 07:41, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Is it "completed" yet? The lead section currently says "On its completion, it will ..." implying that it is not complete. The article is in both categories "Sports venues completed in 2017" and "... under construction ..." - self-evidently at least one of these categories must be wrong. Mitch Ames ( talk) 13:06, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
I can see these lists will over time become extremely long and need to be moved to their own separate page. Shouldn't this be preempted, and that page just be created now? Edelmand ( talk)
Following on from these edits: [1] [2] [3]...
I think we need to change the "additional notes" text in the List of sporting events..." table from "first/second official test". In particular there doesn't appear to be any reference that say these events were "official tests". The closest the ref cited for "second" [4] gets (at 0:29) is "[the Dockers/Collingwood AFLW match will] be Optus Stadium's next big test after [the BBL game]" - but a comment from a Channel 7 reports is hardly an official statement that the BBL game was a test.
The first match after the official opening is probably notable enough to get an explicit "additional note" - but is there anything other than being the first after the official opening that is notable about this game? Possibly it's the first game that was open to the general public and/or with anything like a full stadium. [5] says that the game on 11 Dec 2017 was a closed trial, but doesn't mention the 13 Dec game. [6] says "on December 13 ... A crowd of up to 10,000 is expected for the game — with most drawn from the 7000 people who have worked on the stadium, and their families."
Mitch Ames ( talk) 12:14, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Presumably the table excludes Aussie rules attendances because there will be 20+ matches a year, but why are we including the sport which will probably play at least 10+ cricket matches (Tests, Big Bash, ODI's, T20's). In time, it will become just as lengthy as a table including Aussie rules. Typical anti-AFL bias. I might change it up. Jono52795 ( talk)
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Think we can agree though this is an improvement on the previous table, which was just a blatant attempt to hide the likely mid attendances Australian rules football will have at the ground. Jono52795 ( talk) 06:13, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
a casual reader of any major stadium article should be able to see future events— WP:NOTDIRECTORY says otherwise: "an article ... should not list upcoming events, current promotions, current schedules". There's a reasonable case for listing the first concert, it being notable because it is the first, but otherwise no. Also - as I mentioned previously - the table is currently in the "Attendance records" section, and listing "TBA" as an attendance record is nonsense. I think we need to be clear about whether we want a "list of events" or a "list of attendance records", because the criteria for what should be in those two lists is different. Mitch Ames ( talk) 09:06, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Re these edits: entry added, removed, re-added...
The section heading is Attendance records, but the attendance of 49,021 on 31 March (Fremantle vs Essendon) is not a record. The record for AFL is 53,553 on 25 March (West Coast vs Sydney). Hence the 31 March entry does not belong in that table.
@ Benjamin "Jeffrey" Powell: why do consider 49,021 to be a record? Mitch Ames ( talk) 03:15, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
The table is a list, or at least that is what I understood it to be. Really should only list the top 10 overall attendances and over time this can be categorised by individual Sport when enough events have occurred. Would seem to satisfy MOS:LISTBASICS and is exactly the format used for other Australian Stadium articles like Adelaide Oval. I notice you removed only the Aussie rules attendance, but left the additional cricket figure untouched. Jono52795 ( talk) 09:57, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Can I take it that if I amend the title of the heading to “Attendances”, as opposed to “Attendance records”, this would satisfy? I’m all for more engagement by other editors, but I disagree with the idea that records should be kept for each variation of sport, which is grossly favourable to sports like cricket which have T20s, ODIs and Tests, all at domestic and international level. On that basis we should include an AFL pre-season figure because that is a different “variation” to an AFL regular season figure. How about an AFL finals match. This is why I favour what I consider a simpler model. One table with the overall leading attendances and then other tables which are sorted by sport; say Aussie rules, cricket and “other sports”. These can develop over time as more of these events take place. And I’d submit that a top 10 isn’t meaningless, it’s actually a very common and practical way of publishing relevant information without going overboard. Jono52795 ( talk) 03:07, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. ( non-admin closure) Steelkamp ( talk) 08:33, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Perth Stadium → Optus Stadium – This is the WP:COMMONNAME. It is what most people refer to the oval as and it is in fact what the majority of sources used in this article refer to it as. It will not cause any issues with other disambiguated titles, other than possibly Optus Oval, but I would say "Perth Stadium" is a name that would cause more of an issue than "Optus Stadium" due to its broadness. - Therealscorp1an ( talk) 23:26, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
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The stadium plan has been scrapped. Perth Now media release Aaroncrick (Tassie talk) 06:27, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian ( talk) 12:23, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Perth Stadium → New Perth stadium – No official name for the stadium has been determined yet, and there isn't really a common name, either. "New Perth stadium" has a precedent with other articles in the proposed stadiums category, and might assist readers in searching for the article. I ♦ A 07:41, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Is it "completed" yet? The lead section currently says "On its completion, it will ..." implying that it is not complete. The article is in both categories "Sports venues completed in 2017" and "... under construction ..." - self-evidently at least one of these categories must be wrong. Mitch Ames ( talk) 13:06, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
I can see these lists will over time become extremely long and need to be moved to their own separate page. Shouldn't this be preempted, and that page just be created now? Edelmand ( talk)
Following on from these edits: [1] [2] [3]...
I think we need to change the "additional notes" text in the List of sporting events..." table from "first/second official test". In particular there doesn't appear to be any reference that say these events were "official tests". The closest the ref cited for "second" [4] gets (at 0:29) is "[the Dockers/Collingwood AFLW match will] be Optus Stadium's next big test after [the BBL game]" - but a comment from a Channel 7 reports is hardly an official statement that the BBL game was a test.
The first match after the official opening is probably notable enough to get an explicit "additional note" - but is there anything other than being the first after the official opening that is notable about this game? Possibly it's the first game that was open to the general public and/or with anything like a full stadium. [5] says that the game on 11 Dec 2017 was a closed trial, but doesn't mention the 13 Dec game. [6] says "on December 13 ... A crowd of up to 10,000 is expected for the game — with most drawn from the 7000 people who have worked on the stadium, and their families."
Mitch Ames ( talk) 12:14, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Presumably the table excludes Aussie rules attendances because there will be 20+ matches a year, but why are we including the sport which will probably play at least 10+ cricket matches (Tests, Big Bash, ODI's, T20's). In time, it will become just as lengthy as a table including Aussie rules. Typical anti-AFL bias. I might change it up. Jono52795 ( talk)
References
Think we can agree though this is an improvement on the previous table, which was just a blatant attempt to hide the likely mid attendances Australian rules football will have at the ground. Jono52795 ( talk) 06:13, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
a casual reader of any major stadium article should be able to see future events— WP:NOTDIRECTORY says otherwise: "an article ... should not list upcoming events, current promotions, current schedules". There's a reasonable case for listing the first concert, it being notable because it is the first, but otherwise no. Also - as I mentioned previously - the table is currently in the "Attendance records" section, and listing "TBA" as an attendance record is nonsense. I think we need to be clear about whether we want a "list of events" or a "list of attendance records", because the criteria for what should be in those two lists is different. Mitch Ames ( talk) 09:06, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Re these edits: entry added, removed, re-added...
The section heading is Attendance records, but the attendance of 49,021 on 31 March (Fremantle vs Essendon) is not a record. The record for AFL is 53,553 on 25 March (West Coast vs Sydney). Hence the 31 March entry does not belong in that table.
@ Benjamin "Jeffrey" Powell: why do consider 49,021 to be a record? Mitch Ames ( talk) 03:15, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
The table is a list, or at least that is what I understood it to be. Really should only list the top 10 overall attendances and over time this can be categorised by individual Sport when enough events have occurred. Would seem to satisfy MOS:LISTBASICS and is exactly the format used for other Australian Stadium articles like Adelaide Oval. I notice you removed only the Aussie rules attendance, but left the additional cricket figure untouched. Jono52795 ( talk) 09:57, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Can I take it that if I amend the title of the heading to “Attendances”, as opposed to “Attendance records”, this would satisfy? I’m all for more engagement by other editors, but I disagree with the idea that records should be kept for each variation of sport, which is grossly favourable to sports like cricket which have T20s, ODIs and Tests, all at domestic and international level. On that basis we should include an AFL pre-season figure because that is a different “variation” to an AFL regular season figure. How about an AFL finals match. This is why I favour what I consider a simpler model. One table with the overall leading attendances and then other tables which are sorted by sport; say Aussie rules, cricket and “other sports”. These can develop over time as more of these events take place. And I’d submit that a top 10 isn’t meaningless, it’s actually a very common and practical way of publishing relevant information without going overboard. Jono52795 ( talk) 03:07, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. ( non-admin closure) Steelkamp ( talk) 08:33, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Perth Stadium → Optus Stadium – This is the WP:COMMONNAME. It is what most people refer to the oval as and it is in fact what the majority of sources used in this article refer to it as. It will not cause any issues with other disambiguated titles, other than possibly Optus Oval, but I would say "Perth Stadium" is a name that would cause more of an issue than "Optus Stadium" due to its broadness. - Therealscorp1an ( talk) 23:26, 27 September 2022 (UTC)