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Reviewer: AJona1992 ( talk) 20:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
I will add more comments soon. Just to start off with the lead. Cheers, AJona1992 ( talk) 20:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
The article looks very good and well written. I am going to ask for a second opinion before this article can be passed to GA. In the meantime, please address the concerns that were stated. Thank you, AJona1992 ( talk) 16:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
The reviewer is asking for a second opinion so I'll weigh in.
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Dot Rhone
Jane Asher
Linda Eastman
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I'm beginning to doubt Francies thoughts on moving in with McCartney, because she said in this interview: "he [McCartney] stuck a huge piece of hash into my mouth and said 'Take a bite.' I did - I ended up reading the palms of a dozen people in the restaurant that was below my apartment, after the chauffeur dropped P off at the gates of Cavendish Avenue." She had her own apartment?-- andreasegde ( talk) 18:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Then she says: "Seriously, I can't compare him to other men I've dated, because a) Paul and I never "dated", and b) I was attracted to Paul's mind more than his physical self. Usually it was the other way around when I was one and twenty..." She said earlier that she was 23. Hmmm... Also, saying that "Hey Jude" was composed about her would need a lot more references before it was put in.-- andreasegde ( talk) 18:23, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I've put in what I think is relevant about her and McCartney, without going into too much detail. She has her own page, after all.-- andreasegde ( talk) 18:27, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Consider revising 1st sentence of Linda Eastman section to read "In June 1968, McCartney met Linda Eastman again in Los Angeles when he was there to announce the formation of Apple Corps." McCartney travelled alone to LA (not Lennon) in June (not May) for Apple promotion, by accounts of those present (Ron Kass, Tony Bramwell) he met up with Linda in LA first, not New York. Also consider minor revision to 2nd sentence to read "Six months later they were married at a small civil ceremony, when Eastman was three months pregnant with their child..." as Mary McCartney was born 28Aug1969 per her Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.189.239.239 ( talk) 18:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
There's a paternity lawsuit that could be significant enough to make it into this article. Even if not fully sufficient evidence from the 1980s point towards the possibility that Paul wasn't involved, the case that two lawsuits were started over the thing may make the claim relevant enough for the article (not to mention he paid money two times in order to settle child maintenance claims in the case). The basic claim is that McCartney had an affair during their early 60s Hamburg days with local waitress Erika Wohlers (her last name being Hübers today), fathering her daughter Bettina Hübers, now Krischbin. Apparently, there are authentic photos showing hugs between Paul and Erika during the Reeperbahn days. In 1966, Erika wrote angry letters and Paul paid her £2,600 (then about 25,000 Deutschmarks), saying today that he only did so because the West-German authorities were threatening otherwise to not let them tour the country anymore.
In 1984, Erika's daughter Bettina sued McCartney in order to make him recognize her as his legal daughter. He turned in a blood sample that was tested and the blood type turned out to be one which supposedly ruled out that he was the father. They settled out of court, with Paul paying money over the issue again, this time 16,000 Deutschmarks (then about £7,000), making the final sum he has paid to Erika and her daughter Bettina to be 41,000 Deutschmarks (or circa 20,000 Euros today).
However, not only is more accurate genetic testing around by now, Bettina also found an authoritative source that says that Paul's blood type is different from the one found in his supposed 1984 blood sample, and she also claims that the photo of the man whose blood was taken in 1984 (which she didn't get to see up until 2007) was definitely not showing Paul. So she tried to sue him again in 2007 for fraud, accusing him of having turned in a stand-in's blood sample, to now get a much more accurate genetic paternity test from him. However, in 2007 the court ruled that the statute of limitation for fraud had run out after more than two decades and dismissed the case, not giving her the option to legally make him take a genetic test. Some "Paul is dead" conspiracists keep clinging to this story because it makes it look like Paul's blood type would be different in 1984 from what it was in the 60s. In case we'll put it in here, it could carry over to Template:Paul McCartney family as Bettina Hübers (1962; disputed).
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If you ask me, I'd say she looks much more like John than Paul. -- 79.242.222.168 ( talk) 06:16, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
With Paul being pretty much the most famous leftie of all time, would it be noteworthy that none of his and Linda's kids turned out left-handed? I mean, in spite of suspicions that it might be genetical. -- 46.93.158.170 ( talk) 08:27, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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Reviewer: AJona1992 ( talk) 20:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
I will add more comments soon. Just to start off with the lead. Cheers, AJona1992 ( talk) 20:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
The article looks very good and well written. I am going to ask for a second opinion before this article can be passed to GA. In the meantime, please address the concerns that were stated. Thank you, AJona1992 ( talk) 16:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
The reviewer is asking for a second opinion so I'll weigh in.
Lead
Dot Rhone
Jane Asher
Linda Eastman
Overall
I'm beginning to doubt Francies thoughts on moving in with McCartney, because she said in this interview: "he [McCartney] stuck a huge piece of hash into my mouth and said 'Take a bite.' I did - I ended up reading the palms of a dozen people in the restaurant that was below my apartment, after the chauffeur dropped P off at the gates of Cavendish Avenue." She had her own apartment?-- andreasegde ( talk) 18:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Then she says: "Seriously, I can't compare him to other men I've dated, because a) Paul and I never "dated", and b) I was attracted to Paul's mind more than his physical self. Usually it was the other way around when I was one and twenty..." She said earlier that she was 23. Hmmm... Also, saying that "Hey Jude" was composed about her would need a lot more references before it was put in.-- andreasegde ( talk) 18:23, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I've put in what I think is relevant about her and McCartney, without going into too much detail. She has her own page, after all.-- andreasegde ( talk) 18:27, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Consider revising 1st sentence of Linda Eastman section to read "In June 1968, McCartney met Linda Eastman again in Los Angeles when he was there to announce the formation of Apple Corps." McCartney travelled alone to LA (not Lennon) in June (not May) for Apple promotion, by accounts of those present (Ron Kass, Tony Bramwell) he met up with Linda in LA first, not New York. Also consider minor revision to 2nd sentence to read "Six months later they were married at a small civil ceremony, when Eastman was three months pregnant with their child..." as Mary McCartney was born 28Aug1969 per her Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.189.239.239 ( talk) 18:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
There's a paternity lawsuit that could be significant enough to make it into this article. Even if not fully sufficient evidence from the 1980s point towards the possibility that Paul wasn't involved, the case that two lawsuits were started over the thing may make the claim relevant enough for the article (not to mention he paid money two times in order to settle child maintenance claims in the case). The basic claim is that McCartney had an affair during their early 60s Hamburg days with local waitress Erika Wohlers (her last name being Hübers today), fathering her daughter Bettina Hübers, now Krischbin. Apparently, there are authentic photos showing hugs between Paul and Erika during the Reeperbahn days. In 1966, Erika wrote angry letters and Paul paid her £2,600 (then about 25,000 Deutschmarks), saying today that he only did so because the West-German authorities were threatening otherwise to not let them tour the country anymore.
In 1984, Erika's daughter Bettina sued McCartney in order to make him recognize her as his legal daughter. He turned in a blood sample that was tested and the blood type turned out to be one which supposedly ruled out that he was the father. They settled out of court, with Paul paying money over the issue again, this time 16,000 Deutschmarks (then about £7,000), making the final sum he has paid to Erika and her daughter Bettina to be 41,000 Deutschmarks (or circa 20,000 Euros today).
However, not only is more accurate genetic testing around by now, Bettina also found an authoritative source that says that Paul's blood type is different from the one found in his supposed 1984 blood sample, and she also claims that the photo of the man whose blood was taken in 1984 (which she didn't get to see up until 2007) was definitely not showing Paul. So she tried to sue him again in 2007 for fraud, accusing him of having turned in a stand-in's blood sample, to now get a much more accurate genetic paternity test from him. However, in 2007 the court ruled that the statute of limitation for fraud had run out after more than two decades and dismissed the case, not giving her the option to legally make him take a genetic test. Some "Paul is dead" conspiracists keep clinging to this story because it makes it look like Paul's blood type would be different in 1984 from what it was in the 60s. In case we'll put it in here, it could carry over to Template:Paul McCartney family as Bettina Hübers (1962; disputed).
Sources:
If you ask me, I'd say she looks much more like John than Paul. -- 79.242.222.168 ( talk) 06:16, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
With Paul being pretty much the most famous leftie of all time, would it be noteworthy that none of his and Linda's kids turned out left-handed? I mean, in spite of suspicions that it might be genetical. -- 46.93.158.170 ( talk) 08:27, 19 January 2019 (UTC)