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This page is just a list of peaks and passes. I could translate a little from other wikipeida's, but there is an inconsistency. The German article reads that:
However, this article states that: the Pennine Alps include the mountains of the Haute Savoie, for example the Mont Blanc, west of the St. Bernard. So I wonder which of the two definitions is true, and also if we should include "Walliser Alps" rather than "Pennine Alps", as the term is hardly used anymore. Maybe it was in 1911... Woodwalker 13:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I've been looking around on some online encyclopedia's, and there are several names and limits out there. The divisions currently on wikipedia are from EB1911, that's probably outdated. The western limit of the Pennine Alps is sometimes Col Ferret, sometimes Great St Bernard Pass. An overview:
source | south of Little St Bernard | between Little St Bernard and Col Ferret or Great St Bernard |
east of Col Ferret or Great St Bernard |
---|---|---|---|
EB1911 | Graian Alps | Pennine Alps | Pennine Alps |
Italian sites | Alpi Graie | Alpi Graie | Alpi Pennine |
German wikipedia | Grajische Alpen | Savoyer Alpen | Walliser Alpen |
French wikipedia | Alpes Grées | Alpes Grées/Massif Mt Blanc | Alpes valaisannes |
Britannica online | Graian Alps | Mont Blanc group | Pennine Alps |
Columbia online | Graian Alps | Mont Blanc group | Pennine Alps |
Summitpost | Graian Alps | Mont Blanc group | Pennine Alps |
Maybe someone can find more scientific sources? Markussep 21:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Mont Blanc code identification is: " 7.V.2." and its means:
Sorry to be late but this division of alps is at odds with practically every other source. The Graians northern limit is given as the Little St Bernard pass by practically every author over the last 150 years, inlcuding Coolidge, Collomb the CAI guide books, and Encylopeadia Brittanica. I stongly recommend that the MB group is given its own section or it will just be confusing. I never heard of SIOUSA divisions and a google search brings up no results. (BTW the summit of Mont Blanc IS in France - the border runs along the line of where the rock first show below the summit and over MB de Courmayeur - Shardan seems a little nationalistic in his approach to things) -- Mgillie 09:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry Mgillie, if I seem nationalist (but.... which nation? I’ve got Italian and French citizenschip! ....And I’m coming from Sardinia...), but that is my knowledge on Alps. If you don’t know Soiusa, [4], apart Wikipedia, here few useful publications:
About Mont Blanc, on It wiki (and even on Fr Wiki), you can find:http: [5]:
.....And on newpapers:
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This page is just a list of peaks and passes. I could translate a little from other wikipeida's, but there is an inconsistency. The German article reads that:
However, this article states that: the Pennine Alps include the mountains of the Haute Savoie, for example the Mont Blanc, west of the St. Bernard. So I wonder which of the two definitions is true, and also if we should include "Walliser Alps" rather than "Pennine Alps", as the term is hardly used anymore. Maybe it was in 1911... Woodwalker 13:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I've been looking around on some online encyclopedia's, and there are several names and limits out there. The divisions currently on wikipedia are from EB1911, that's probably outdated. The western limit of the Pennine Alps is sometimes Col Ferret, sometimes Great St Bernard Pass. An overview:
source | south of Little St Bernard | between Little St Bernard and Col Ferret or Great St Bernard |
east of Col Ferret or Great St Bernard |
---|---|---|---|
EB1911 | Graian Alps | Pennine Alps | Pennine Alps |
Italian sites | Alpi Graie | Alpi Graie | Alpi Pennine |
German wikipedia | Grajische Alpen | Savoyer Alpen | Walliser Alpen |
French wikipedia | Alpes Grées | Alpes Grées/Massif Mt Blanc | Alpes valaisannes |
Britannica online | Graian Alps | Mont Blanc group | Pennine Alps |
Columbia online | Graian Alps | Mont Blanc group | Pennine Alps |
Summitpost | Graian Alps | Mont Blanc group | Pennine Alps |
Maybe someone can find more scientific sources? Markussep 21:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Mont Blanc code identification is: " 7.V.2." and its means:
Sorry to be late but this division of alps is at odds with practically every other source. The Graians northern limit is given as the Little St Bernard pass by practically every author over the last 150 years, inlcuding Coolidge, Collomb the CAI guide books, and Encylopeadia Brittanica. I stongly recommend that the MB group is given its own section or it will just be confusing. I never heard of SIOUSA divisions and a google search brings up no results. (BTW the summit of Mont Blanc IS in France - the border runs along the line of where the rock first show below the summit and over MB de Courmayeur - Shardan seems a little nationalistic in his approach to things) -- Mgillie 09:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry Mgillie, if I seem nationalist (but.... which nation? I’ve got Italian and French citizenschip! ....And I’m coming from Sardinia...), but that is my knowledge on Alps. If you don’t know Soiusa, [4], apart Wikipedia, here few useful publications:
About Mont Blanc, on It wiki (and even on Fr Wiki), you can find:http: [5]:
.....And on newpapers: