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I realise the page needs a map, a copy of the DO 'image', a bit of brushing up and possibly some formatting. I'll concentrate on linking this page to others for now, so if anyone has the time & resources, feel free. -- mikaul 12:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
oh, and this page also needs to carry the Template:wine banner which I cant seem to get to work for some reason -- mikaul 12:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
fixed the banner problem:) -- mikaul 12:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I've added maps, but it's beginning to look a bit messy - anyone help? -- mikaul 18:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Discussion moved from my Talkpage with minor edits for context.
Do you think that is early to put the section veguerie/vegueria?
When I put it, I was thinking to do two separate articles about Penedès as in other wikipedias because Penedès DO and Penedès isn't exactly the same. Penedès DO includes a part of Baix Llobregat and Alt Camp and less part of Anoia than the historical region of Penedès that includes all Alt, Baix Penedès, Garraf and the middle and southest part of Anoia (the northest part is of the historical Alta Segarra). What do you think about it? Another possibility is to separate in the same article both things.
Another reason why I put veguerie was because in Penedès are living that very deeply, you can see in lots of towns a banner in the entrance with the message "Municipi adherit a la Vegueria del Penedès" similar as the wellcome banners in cities. It is thought that won't be a veguerie because two are in one province (Barcelona) and the other part are in Tarragona and Lleida. Also is thought that will be a sotsvegueria (less than a veguerie) inside veguerie of Barcelona (àmbit metropolità).
-- Vilarrubla ( Parlem?) 16:28, 19 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vilarrubla ( talk • contribs)
Also I want to do a map of Penedès DO. -- Vilarrubla ( Parlem?) 16:38, 19 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vilarrubla ( talk • contribs)
There you can see an example of what I have proposed you User talk:Vilarrubla/Penedès. -- Vilarrubla ( talk) 14:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
We don't have any good article of vegueries in any language. It was an old catalan administrative and decret de Nova Planta changes to spanish administratives: corregiments. Penedès was in the Vegueria de Vilafranca and later told it Vegueria de Vilafranca del Penedès or just Penedès to make difference of the Vegueria de Vilafranca de Conflent (now in the France part of Catalonia). Since 1714 doesn't existed vegueries any more since a little period in 1930-1939 (I think) and maybe the new Vegueria del Penedès won't exist, is probably that will separete in three vegueries. In the catalan article of vegueria is a little confusing for me so I don't recomend you.
In Catalan wikipedia Gran Penedès will be merge to Vegueria del Penedès are similar concepts and talk about the same territoy with the same history.
I think that your changes are good.-- Vilarrubla ( talk) 19:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
It's been a while since the above discussion and the political situation re Penedès administration as a vegueria has moved on. Some changes made earlier this year have left the article looking less than brilliant and led me to consider re-arranging it (see draft
here) but on reflection I think two articles (like
Rioja and
Rioja (wine),
Priorat and
Priorat (DOQ), etc) would be more in keeping with the style and approach of wine and geopolitical articles elsewhere.
If anyone has any opinions on this shout up now, otherwise I'm planning on splitting off
Penedès (DO) within the next week or so. --
mikaul
talk
08:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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I realise the page needs a map, a copy of the DO 'image', a bit of brushing up and possibly some formatting. I'll concentrate on linking this page to others for now, so if anyone has the time & resources, feel free. -- mikaul 12:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
oh, and this page also needs to carry the Template:wine banner which I cant seem to get to work for some reason -- mikaul 12:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
fixed the banner problem:) -- mikaul 12:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I've added maps, but it's beginning to look a bit messy - anyone help? -- mikaul 18:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Discussion moved from my Talkpage with minor edits for context.
Do you think that is early to put the section veguerie/vegueria?
When I put it, I was thinking to do two separate articles about Penedès as in other wikipedias because Penedès DO and Penedès isn't exactly the same. Penedès DO includes a part of Baix Llobregat and Alt Camp and less part of Anoia than the historical region of Penedès that includes all Alt, Baix Penedès, Garraf and the middle and southest part of Anoia (the northest part is of the historical Alta Segarra). What do you think about it? Another possibility is to separate in the same article both things.
Another reason why I put veguerie was because in Penedès are living that very deeply, you can see in lots of towns a banner in the entrance with the message "Municipi adherit a la Vegueria del Penedès" similar as the wellcome banners in cities. It is thought that won't be a veguerie because two are in one province (Barcelona) and the other part are in Tarragona and Lleida. Also is thought that will be a sotsvegueria (less than a veguerie) inside veguerie of Barcelona (àmbit metropolità).
-- Vilarrubla ( Parlem?) 16:28, 19 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vilarrubla ( talk • contribs)
Also I want to do a map of Penedès DO. -- Vilarrubla ( Parlem?) 16:38, 19 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vilarrubla ( talk • contribs)
There you can see an example of what I have proposed you User talk:Vilarrubla/Penedès. -- Vilarrubla ( talk) 14:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
We don't have any good article of vegueries in any language. It was an old catalan administrative and decret de Nova Planta changes to spanish administratives: corregiments. Penedès was in the Vegueria de Vilafranca and later told it Vegueria de Vilafranca del Penedès or just Penedès to make difference of the Vegueria de Vilafranca de Conflent (now in the France part of Catalonia). Since 1714 doesn't existed vegueries any more since a little period in 1930-1939 (I think) and maybe the new Vegueria del Penedès won't exist, is probably that will separete in three vegueries. In the catalan article of vegueria is a little confusing for me so I don't recomend you.
In Catalan wikipedia Gran Penedès will be merge to Vegueria del Penedès are similar concepts and talk about the same territoy with the same history.
I think that your changes are good.-- Vilarrubla ( talk) 19:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
It's been a while since the above discussion and the political situation re Penedès administration as a vegueria has moved on. Some changes made earlier this year have left the article looking less than brilliant and led me to consider re-arranging it (see draft
here) but on reflection I think two articles (like
Rioja and
Rioja (wine),
Priorat and
Priorat (DOQ), etc) would be more in keeping with the style and approach of wine and geopolitical articles elsewhere.
If anyone has any opinions on this shout up now, otherwise I'm planning on splitting off
Penedès (DO) within the next week or so. --
mikaul
talk
08:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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