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Again, can we list these as stubs? There is a lot more to say about it! 2toise 18:33, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Asterion: Stop treating this page as your private homepage! This is a NPOV version. Stop reverting the whole time! I didn’t move or delete anything. I corrected some things and I was just trying to make a NPOV version of the article. You can not use just the Serbian names, because both of them, the Albanian and the Serbian name for the city are official. Take a look at the documents, which as I can see in the discussion page, are also shown here by another user here.
It is not NPOV to use just the Serbian name here. And you can not use Peć because as I said before (look at the history) the letter "ć" is not an English letter. Stop accusing me. Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia and everyone can edit the articles. You didn’t even gave a reason for your revert; just putting an accusation in the summary, doesn’t give you the right to revert the truth. Show little more respect for other users here. -- Mig11 09:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Estavisti, while it certainly was and remains a factor, it is not relevant to this article. We have plenty of background information in articles on the History of Kosovo, Kosovo War and 2004 unrest in Kosovo already, including religious differences. Please don't drag them into here. -- int19h 13:27, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Why is the inclusion or exclusion of this word in the text of the article so important? At the same time, is it relevant to the subject of the article? -- int19h 09:31, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I will pu the official name on brackets"()"-- Bindicapriqi ( talk) 15:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I added data from the 1961 Census. If you guys have other census then please add them. -LAz17, July 8, 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by LAz17 ( talk • contribs) 03:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Population Census data updated. ( LAz17 ( talk) 19:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)).
No argumet!!! please dont inteprete the documents
Sombody have putit this Kosovo place in Serbia stub or category or template here with out argumet. We dont have a argumet that Kosovo is part of S/M. We have tha Constitution of this countrie but we have the rez. 1244 wich is more importen for the Wikipedia and is saying that Kosovo it is a part of Yougoslavia and is prototoriat of UN. Till we dont have a clearly argument from UN, aricel about Kosovo must be out of this stub or category or template. Pleas dont make the discution with intepretation or the Law wich are not accordin to 1244. Everybodoy can do that but that is nothing for Wikipedia.-- Hipi Zhdripi 05:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
The user of the city names in English Language (newer version from the UN liable pilari in Kosovo for such think )
The original page of the Law (1. in albanian L., 2.Serbian L.)
The UN Law in Kosovo says that the only oficele name are the names presentit in >A< every thinks als is out of Law. This is for albanian language.
RREGULLORe NR. 2000/43 UNMIK/REG/2000/43 27 korrik 2000 Mbi numrin, emrat dhe kufinjtë e komunave ------------------------------------------- Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm, Në pajtim me autorizimin e tij të dhënë me rezolutën 1244 (1999) të datës 10 qershor 1999 të Këshillit të Sigurimit të Kombeve të Bashkuara, Duke marrë parasysh Rregulloren nr. 1999/1 të datës 25 korrik 1999, të ndryshuar, të Misionit të Administratës së Përkohshme të Kombeve të Bashkuara në Kosovë (UNMIK) mbi autorizimin e Administratës së Përkohshme në Kosovë dhe Rregulloren Nr. 1999/24 të datës 12 dhjetor 1999 të UNMIK-ut mbi ligjin në fuqi në Kosovë, Me qëllim të qartësimit të numrit, emrave, shtrirja dhe kufinjve të komunave para mbajtjes së zgjedhjeve komunale në Kosovë, Shpall sa vijon: Neni 1 Numri dhe emrat e komunave Kosova ka tridhjetë komuna ashtu siç figurojnë në Tabelën ‘A’ të kësaj rregulloreje. Komunikimi zyrtar nuk përmban asnjë emër për ndonjë komunë i cili nuk figuron në Tabelën ‘A’ të kësaj rregulloreje, përveç që në ato komuna ku komunitetet etnike a gjuhësore joshqiptare dhe joserbe përbëjnë një pjesë substanciale, emrat e komunave jepen edhe në gjuhët e atyre komuniteteve. Neni 2 Shtrirja dhe kufinjtë e komunave Shtrirja e çdo komune dhe kufinjtë e tyre skicohen nga zonat e tyre përbërëse kadastrale. Zonat kadastrale të cilat përbëjnë çdo komunë figurojnë në Tabelën ‘B’ të kësaj rregulloreje. Neni 3 Zbatimi Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm mund të lëshojë direktiva administrative në lidhje me zbatimin e kësaj rregulloreje. Neni 4 Ligji i zbatueshëm Kjo rregullore mbulon çdo dispozitë në ligjin e zbatueshëm e cila nuk është në përputhje me të. Neni 5 Hyrja në fuqi Kjo rregullore hyn në fuqi më 27 korrik 2000. Bernard Kouchner Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm
The UN Law in Kosovo says that the only oficele name are the names presentit in >A< every thinks als is out of Law. This is for serbian language.
UREDBA BR. 2000/43 UNMIK/URED/2000/43 27. jul 2000. godine O BROJU, IMENIMA I GRANICAMA OP[TINA Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara, Shodno ovla{}ewu koje mu je dato Rezolucijom Saveta bezbednosti Ujediwenih nacija 1244 (1999) od 10. juna 1999. godine, Na osnovu Uredbe br. 1999/1 od 25. jula 1999. godine Privremene administrativne misije Ujediwenih nacija na Kosovu (UNMIK), sa izmenama i dopunama, o ovla{}ewima Privremene uprave na Kosovu i na osnovu Uredbe UNMIK-a br. 2000/24 od 12. decembra 2000. godine o zakonu koji je u primeni na Kosovu, <u>(hier is oficele user)</u> U ciqu razja{wavawa broja, imena, oblasti i granica op{tina pre odr`avawa op{tinskih izbora na Kosovu, Ovim objavquje slede}e: Clan 1 BROJ I IMENA OPSTINA 1.1 Kosovo ima trideset opstina kao sto je dato u Tabeli '''A''' u dodatku ovoj Uredbi. 1.2 Zvani~na komunikacija ne mo`e da sadrzi bilo koje ime za opstinu koje nije naziv odredjen u Tabeli A ove Uredbe, osim u onim opstinama gde etni~ke i jezi~ke zajednice, koje nisu srpske i albanske ~ine znatan deo stanovni{tva, gde se imena op{tina daju i na jezicima tih zajednica. Clan 2 PODRU^JA I GRANICE OP[TINA Podru~je svake op{tine i wene granice su ocrtane wenim sastavnim katastarskim zonama. Katastarske zone koje ~ine svaku op{tinu su odre|ene u Tabeli B prilo`enoj u dodatku ovoj Uredbi. Clan 3 PRIMENA Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara mo`e da donese administrativno uputstvo u vezi sa primenom ove Uredbe. Clan 4 ZAKON KOJI JE U PRIMENI Ova Uredba zamewuje svaku odredbu zakona koji je u primeni a koja nije saglasna sa wom. Clan 5 STUPAWE NA SNAGU Ova Uredba stupa na snagu 27. jula 2000. godine. Bernar Ku{ner Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara
tabel of contens >A<
TABELA ‘A’ (alb) RASPORED A (ser.) Emrat e komunave (alb.)IMENA OPSTINA (serb) Albanski Srpski 01 Deçan \Decani 02 Gjakovë \Djakovica 03 Gllogovc \Glogovac 04 Gjilan \Gnilane 05 Dragash \Dragas 06 Istog \Istok 07 Kaçanik \Kacanik 08 Klinë\ Klina 09 Fushë Kosovë\ Kosovo Polje 10 Kamenicë \Kamenica 11 Mitrovicë \Kosovska Mitrovica 12 Leposaviq \Leposavic 13 Lipjan \Lipqan 14 Novobërdë \Novo Brdo 15 Obiliq \Obilic 16 Rahovec\ Orahovac 17 Pejë\ Pec 18 Podujevë\ Podujevo 19 Prishtinë \Pristina 20 Prizren \Prizren 21 Skenderaj\ Srbica 22 Shtime\ Stimqe 23 Shtërpcë\ Strpce 24 Suharekë\ Suva Reka 25 Ferizaj \Urosevac 26 Viti \Vitina 27 Vushtrri\ Vucitrn 28 Zubin Potok \Zubin Potok 29 Zveçan\ Zvecan 30 Malishevë\ Malisevo
If sambody have a argument Im waitting. In another cases you are going to interpret the dokumets (you are out of UN Law) and you dont have argumet, you dont work for Wikipedia but are destroing the Wikipedia image. I know that my english is not so gut, but a desinformation is not gut for Wikipedia and for the peopel in Kosovo. You can have a problem with "Haage". This tabel is speeken better then I.-- Hipi Zhdripi 21:03, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
WHO EVER IS PUTTING FALSE INFORMATION ON THIS PAGE - STOP! why didn't you include anything about ILLYRIA this information is strictly based on Serbian propaganda books and histroy. Please look at other sources and find the TURTH.
Again the name of this city is PEJA. "pec" is a basterdized version of the name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.248.193 ( talk • contribs) 18:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Peja soounds more English than Pec as the letter "c" the serbian way does not exist in the English alphabet. PEJA includes 4 letters that are present in the Enlglish alphabet. Also this article is VERY bias, who is the administrator for it and the one who keeps using it as a personal opinion? I would like to send a complaint at least include both sides Albanian and serbian not just Serbian!! You completley ignore the fact of the ILLYRIAN ERA and as well as the hesitation to mention anything about DARDANIA. I would also like to ask, who made you (Ev) the administrator of "everything" kosovar information on wiki???? All in all the Republic of Kosova is now independent and the first official language in Kosovo is Albanian and the second is Serbian. so since you are pretending to be fair, Albanian comes first.Al—Preceding PeYonka comment added by 99.245.248.193 ( talk) 04:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Ev, ok I must admit I am overreacting. I guess it does make sense in the whole "name" situation. I am new here and I did not know that you cannot copy paste historical facts. However, you ignored my last point about the article on peja being very bias indeed. You as an administrator should look at other World-known facts about the city of peja not only information you get from Serbian history or Slavic. You can refer to English, French, Italian, German, etc.. references because currently the only references i see are Serbian that make up the article.
How can you possibly write an article about a Kosovar city based solely on Serbian history? Perhaps, reading Noel Malcolm's - Kosovo: A short history (which cannot possibly be biased seeing as he had done extensive research on the Balkans) will lead you in the right direction. Now you amy say I am being bias by not accepting the article, but the fact is there is NOTHING on this article that sheds light on any historical fact that includes the Albanians in Kosovo.
Since I am new I still do not know how to properly use wikipedia, but when I learn I will definetly truly cite articles that include FACTS and not one sided arguments. Hope you reply, PeYonka ( talk) 03:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction:). - PeYonka ( talk) 02:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
If sombody have UN acceptit evidence that the name of the city is not Peja but is Pec, then this articel must be unter the name: Peja and the page named "Peć" must be redirect. My evidence you kann see in UNMIK oficiale page.-- Hipi Zhdripi 00:17, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
I have tagged this article as an article professing a certain POV with its insistence on using the Serbian (including specific diacritics which don't exist in English) for the name of the city of Peja/Pec. I am not convinced that the name "Pec" is "common usage English" as there is no evidence whatsoever provided to backup that claim. Please do not remove the tag unless you provide some evidence that this is common usage in English. -- alchaemia ( talk) 04:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm not convinced that 2-3 history books constitute "common English usage." On the other hand, every international institution in Kosovo, when writing in English, uses the form Albanian Name/Serbian Name when writing names of towns o municipalities (the same convention is used when writing the names of villages, etc). That law can be seen here [1]. I'd be willing to bet you that UNMIK/EU/OSCE/UNDP/UN/Other NGOs have created far more documentation in English with that formula than has Tim Judah ever written, read, or heard about in his life. So, what's common usage here: thousands of separate documents from all these international organizations whose primary language is English, or Tim Judah's books? The neutrality tag is up, and please don't remove it until you prove otherwise. -- alchaemia ( talk) 18:47, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I've added the POV tags again, as I consider this article to push the Serbian POV. I have read the naming conventions rule, and based on that rule I say that you have not provided enough evidence to support your claim that the word "Pec" (with the diacritics) is "common English usage." I don't need to "prove" anything other than the fact that several large multinational organizations, including, but not limited to, UNMIK/UN/KFOR/NATO/OSCE/UNDP/USAID/etc., use the convention Peja/Pec in the thousands of documents they have produced, all in English. Their convention has been adopted by several different organizations when dealing with the question of names and their usage; ICG is one example, or EULEX, or ICO. So, I say to you, what is common usage: what Tim Judah says is common usage, or what can be verified to be as such by reading one of the countless documents produced by these venerable organizations? Do not remove the tags. You have not convinced me that this article is not, in fact, POV. -- alchaemia ( talk) 22:30, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Ah, again I am forced to intervene. My friend, EV Kosovo is de facto run by Albanians who cares what history books say, the fact is the Albanian name should be used (with the Serbian one in brackets) as is the case with the Kosovo article. This is needed in order to maintain consistency. Besides the etymology is Albanian, PEC in Albanian is a child's way of saying penis, so don't take the Wikipedia community for morons, this is obviously a Serb construct which has no bearing on the history of the area or indeed the current state of affairs.
Interestedinfairness (
talk) 21:41, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Page now shifted to correct name according to majority population, WP naming and English usage. Lover Of Democracy ( talk) 08:44, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
The article uses both, we need to be clear and consistent. IJA ( talk) 19:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
--How about that League of Peja huh? I guess it was pretty important considering this is supposed to be NPOV, or should I wait until Kosova gets official* independence?
hehehe one more funny little thing...since the article mentions that there is a large Turkish minority, the reader would assume that the rest is Serbian huh - user —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.17.19 ( talk • contribs) 06:11, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
I have been unable to verify the changes made by an anonymous editor (155.245.229.20, a known vandal) relating to the administrative role of Pec, although I blame my own fact finding skills. Can someone verify these changes or perform a rollback if needed?-- BakerQ 14:46, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
Peć → Pejë – Per WP:CommonName. It is the official name in the Republic of Kosovo, most of the world recognizes Kosovo, it has an overwhelming Albanian majority and the majority of English languages sources prefer Pejë over Peć. The continuation of Peć is considered an insult to the majority of the town folk.
Over 3 million for Pejë v only 37,000 for Pec. Let's keep it neutral ( talk) 11:08, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the pages at this time, per the discussion below. Editor input and data are each inconclusive. (As noted below, more recent sources appear to favor "Peja" over "Peć." However, this advantage is lost when incorporating sources that do not use diacritics.) There is also no clear consensus here to move Pejë District to a title using either "Peja" or "Peć" at this time. Dekimasu よ! 20:27, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
– Per WP:COMMONNAME in the English language. Sources which are specifically referring to the city and not the Monastery of the Patriarchate of Peć favour Peja. When doing a common name test, it is important to minus out the word "Patriarchate" from the search to make sure the search results are about the city and not Monastery. Here is my evidence considering that no one has bothered doing a proper google common name test, Raw google searches aren't valid per WP:GNUM. My google searches are in line with WP:GOOGLE:
It is clear that Peja is the all time and the recent common name for the city (not the Monastery) in the English language. On another note, I would oppose a move for the article " Monastery of the Patriarchate of Peć" to " Monastery of the Patriarchate of Peja". The current article " Peja" should be moved to " Peja (disambiguation)" to accommodate this RM. IJA ( talk) 02:22, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
FYI, the district article has been requested to be renamed, see Talk:Pejë District -- 67.70.35.44 ( talk) 22:37, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I provided sources that the town name in english is spelld Peja and offical mission use this word in english.
224,000 osce rks. Lindi29 ( talk) 20:25, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Some editors ( Lindi29 [8] and some IPs [9] [10] [11]) are repeatedly removing the word "Peć" from the lead section and from the infobox, although that is the title of the article. If you think that the article should be renamed, then removing one name from the lead is not a good way to do it. There is an open discussion above about renaming the article. Even if the article gets renamed, alternative names should be listed in the lead section and in the infobox per Wikipedia:Article titles#Treatment of alternative names. Those editors even changed the "otheruses" hatnote from " Pec (disambiguation)" to " Peja (disambiguation)" although the title of the article is "Peć". I don't want to get involved in an edit war, but those edits are clearly contrary to the policies and guidelines. So, I call those editors to stop reverting, and to come her and discuss this issue. Vanjagenije ( talk) 00:48, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
@ Lindi29 and Vanjagenije: Hello from the german Wikipedia. The german Wikipedia had also discuss about the name Peja. In the conclusion: We had Peć removed and named the city to Peja, because Peja have a albanian majority and we havn't resources for Peć. By the majority municipalitys of serbian in Kosovo the serbian name remains. I will get a little bit active in the english wikipedia because here the citys of Kosovo can be update how the germans wikipedia. I mean the english wikipedia can't find even resources of Peć and then I move by sunday the city to Peja, if somebody don't answer of this discussion. Sorry, if you can't understand me. Elmedinfeta ( talk) 18:15, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
We have that also in the german! And I will you not attack but you are interested in Serbia and this isn't very fair in this case. My opinion is that Peja is right here. I like to speak with a non-serb and non-albanian person. Is here somebody? You know someone? Thank you for your activity of this discussion. Elmedinfeta ( talk) 22:51, 14 May 2017 (UTC).
non-serb and non-albanian persons should be discussing? Vanjagenije (talk) 23:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes, thats right. But in my years as a teenager I didn't have make good experience with serbian. Please don't feel attacked but you know what I mean. I think with serbian I can't talk about serbian names in Kosovo to moved it on albanian. Elmedinfeta ( talk) 23:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
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Again, can we list these as stubs? There is a lot more to say about it! 2toise 18:33, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Asterion: Stop treating this page as your private homepage! This is a NPOV version. Stop reverting the whole time! I didn’t move or delete anything. I corrected some things and I was just trying to make a NPOV version of the article. You can not use just the Serbian names, because both of them, the Albanian and the Serbian name for the city are official. Take a look at the documents, which as I can see in the discussion page, are also shown here by another user here.
It is not NPOV to use just the Serbian name here. And you can not use Peć because as I said before (look at the history) the letter "ć" is not an English letter. Stop accusing me. Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia and everyone can edit the articles. You didn’t even gave a reason for your revert; just putting an accusation in the summary, doesn’t give you the right to revert the truth. Show little more respect for other users here. -- Mig11 09:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Estavisti, while it certainly was and remains a factor, it is not relevant to this article. We have plenty of background information in articles on the History of Kosovo, Kosovo War and 2004 unrest in Kosovo already, including religious differences. Please don't drag them into here. -- int19h 13:27, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Why is the inclusion or exclusion of this word in the text of the article so important? At the same time, is it relevant to the subject of the article? -- int19h 09:31, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I will pu the official name on brackets"()"-- Bindicapriqi ( talk) 15:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I added data from the 1961 Census. If you guys have other census then please add them. -LAz17, July 8, 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by LAz17 ( talk • contribs) 03:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Population Census data updated. ( LAz17 ( talk) 19:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)).
No argumet!!! please dont inteprete the documents
Sombody have putit this Kosovo place in Serbia stub or category or template here with out argumet. We dont have a argumet that Kosovo is part of S/M. We have tha Constitution of this countrie but we have the rez. 1244 wich is more importen for the Wikipedia and is saying that Kosovo it is a part of Yougoslavia and is prototoriat of UN. Till we dont have a clearly argument from UN, aricel about Kosovo must be out of this stub or category or template. Pleas dont make the discution with intepretation or the Law wich are not accordin to 1244. Everybodoy can do that but that is nothing for Wikipedia.-- Hipi Zhdripi 05:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
The user of the city names in English Language (newer version from the UN liable pilari in Kosovo for such think )
The original page of the Law (1. in albanian L., 2.Serbian L.)
The UN Law in Kosovo says that the only oficele name are the names presentit in >A< every thinks als is out of Law. This is for albanian language.
RREGULLORe NR. 2000/43 UNMIK/REG/2000/43 27 korrik 2000 Mbi numrin, emrat dhe kufinjtë e komunave ------------------------------------------- Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm, Në pajtim me autorizimin e tij të dhënë me rezolutën 1244 (1999) të datës 10 qershor 1999 të Këshillit të Sigurimit të Kombeve të Bashkuara, Duke marrë parasysh Rregulloren nr. 1999/1 të datës 25 korrik 1999, të ndryshuar, të Misionit të Administratës së Përkohshme të Kombeve të Bashkuara në Kosovë (UNMIK) mbi autorizimin e Administratës së Përkohshme në Kosovë dhe Rregulloren Nr. 1999/24 të datës 12 dhjetor 1999 të UNMIK-ut mbi ligjin në fuqi në Kosovë, Me qëllim të qartësimit të numrit, emrave, shtrirja dhe kufinjve të komunave para mbajtjes së zgjedhjeve komunale në Kosovë, Shpall sa vijon: Neni 1 Numri dhe emrat e komunave Kosova ka tridhjetë komuna ashtu siç figurojnë në Tabelën ‘A’ të kësaj rregulloreje. Komunikimi zyrtar nuk përmban asnjë emër për ndonjë komunë i cili nuk figuron në Tabelën ‘A’ të kësaj rregulloreje, përveç që në ato komuna ku komunitetet etnike a gjuhësore joshqiptare dhe joserbe përbëjnë një pjesë substanciale, emrat e komunave jepen edhe në gjuhët e atyre komuniteteve. Neni 2 Shtrirja dhe kufinjtë e komunave Shtrirja e çdo komune dhe kufinjtë e tyre skicohen nga zonat e tyre përbërëse kadastrale. Zonat kadastrale të cilat përbëjnë çdo komunë figurojnë në Tabelën ‘B’ të kësaj rregulloreje. Neni 3 Zbatimi Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm mund të lëshojë direktiva administrative në lidhje me zbatimin e kësaj rregulloreje. Neni 4 Ligji i zbatueshëm Kjo rregullore mbulon çdo dispozitë në ligjin e zbatueshëm e cila nuk është në përputhje me të. Neni 5 Hyrja në fuqi Kjo rregullore hyn në fuqi më 27 korrik 2000. Bernard Kouchner Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm
The UN Law in Kosovo says that the only oficele name are the names presentit in >A< every thinks als is out of Law. This is for serbian language.
UREDBA BR. 2000/43 UNMIK/URED/2000/43 27. jul 2000. godine O BROJU, IMENIMA I GRANICAMA OP[TINA Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara, Shodno ovla{}ewu koje mu je dato Rezolucijom Saveta bezbednosti Ujediwenih nacija 1244 (1999) od 10. juna 1999. godine, Na osnovu Uredbe br. 1999/1 od 25. jula 1999. godine Privremene administrativne misije Ujediwenih nacija na Kosovu (UNMIK), sa izmenama i dopunama, o ovla{}ewima Privremene uprave na Kosovu i na osnovu Uredbe UNMIK-a br. 2000/24 od 12. decembra 2000. godine o zakonu koji je u primeni na Kosovu, <u>(hier is oficele user)</u> U ciqu razja{wavawa broja, imena, oblasti i granica op{tina pre odr`avawa op{tinskih izbora na Kosovu, Ovim objavquje slede}e: Clan 1 BROJ I IMENA OPSTINA 1.1 Kosovo ima trideset opstina kao sto je dato u Tabeli '''A''' u dodatku ovoj Uredbi. 1.2 Zvani~na komunikacija ne mo`e da sadrzi bilo koje ime za opstinu koje nije naziv odredjen u Tabeli A ove Uredbe, osim u onim opstinama gde etni~ke i jezi~ke zajednice, koje nisu srpske i albanske ~ine znatan deo stanovni{tva, gde se imena op{tina daju i na jezicima tih zajednica. Clan 2 PODRU^JA I GRANICE OP[TINA Podru~je svake op{tine i wene granice su ocrtane wenim sastavnim katastarskim zonama. Katastarske zone koje ~ine svaku op{tinu su odre|ene u Tabeli B prilo`enoj u dodatku ovoj Uredbi. Clan 3 PRIMENA Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara mo`e da donese administrativno uputstvo u vezi sa primenom ove Uredbe. Clan 4 ZAKON KOJI JE U PRIMENI Ova Uredba zamewuje svaku odredbu zakona koji je u primeni a koja nije saglasna sa wom. Clan 5 STUPAWE NA SNAGU Ova Uredba stupa na snagu 27. jula 2000. godine. Bernar Ku{ner Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara
tabel of contens >A<
TABELA ‘A’ (alb) RASPORED A (ser.) Emrat e komunave (alb.)IMENA OPSTINA (serb) Albanski Srpski 01 Deçan \Decani 02 Gjakovë \Djakovica 03 Gllogovc \Glogovac 04 Gjilan \Gnilane 05 Dragash \Dragas 06 Istog \Istok 07 Kaçanik \Kacanik 08 Klinë\ Klina 09 Fushë Kosovë\ Kosovo Polje 10 Kamenicë \Kamenica 11 Mitrovicë \Kosovska Mitrovica 12 Leposaviq \Leposavic 13 Lipjan \Lipqan 14 Novobërdë \Novo Brdo 15 Obiliq \Obilic 16 Rahovec\ Orahovac 17 Pejë\ Pec 18 Podujevë\ Podujevo 19 Prishtinë \Pristina 20 Prizren \Prizren 21 Skenderaj\ Srbica 22 Shtime\ Stimqe 23 Shtërpcë\ Strpce 24 Suharekë\ Suva Reka 25 Ferizaj \Urosevac 26 Viti \Vitina 27 Vushtrri\ Vucitrn 28 Zubin Potok \Zubin Potok 29 Zveçan\ Zvecan 30 Malishevë\ Malisevo
If sambody have a argument Im waitting. In another cases you are going to interpret the dokumets (you are out of UN Law) and you dont have argumet, you dont work for Wikipedia but are destroing the Wikipedia image. I know that my english is not so gut, but a desinformation is not gut for Wikipedia and for the peopel in Kosovo. You can have a problem with "Haage". This tabel is speeken better then I.-- Hipi Zhdripi 21:03, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
WHO EVER IS PUTTING FALSE INFORMATION ON THIS PAGE - STOP! why didn't you include anything about ILLYRIA this information is strictly based on Serbian propaganda books and histroy. Please look at other sources and find the TURTH.
Again the name of this city is PEJA. "pec" is a basterdized version of the name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.248.193 ( talk • contribs) 18:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Peja soounds more English than Pec as the letter "c" the serbian way does not exist in the English alphabet. PEJA includes 4 letters that are present in the Enlglish alphabet. Also this article is VERY bias, who is the administrator for it and the one who keeps using it as a personal opinion? I would like to send a complaint at least include both sides Albanian and serbian not just Serbian!! You completley ignore the fact of the ILLYRIAN ERA and as well as the hesitation to mention anything about DARDANIA. I would also like to ask, who made you (Ev) the administrator of "everything" kosovar information on wiki???? All in all the Republic of Kosova is now independent and the first official language in Kosovo is Albanian and the second is Serbian. so since you are pretending to be fair, Albanian comes first.Al—Preceding PeYonka comment added by 99.245.248.193 ( talk) 04:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Ev, ok I must admit I am overreacting. I guess it does make sense in the whole "name" situation. I am new here and I did not know that you cannot copy paste historical facts. However, you ignored my last point about the article on peja being very bias indeed. You as an administrator should look at other World-known facts about the city of peja not only information you get from Serbian history or Slavic. You can refer to English, French, Italian, German, etc.. references because currently the only references i see are Serbian that make up the article.
How can you possibly write an article about a Kosovar city based solely on Serbian history? Perhaps, reading Noel Malcolm's - Kosovo: A short history (which cannot possibly be biased seeing as he had done extensive research on the Balkans) will lead you in the right direction. Now you amy say I am being bias by not accepting the article, but the fact is there is NOTHING on this article that sheds light on any historical fact that includes the Albanians in Kosovo.
Since I am new I still do not know how to properly use wikipedia, but when I learn I will definetly truly cite articles that include FACTS and not one sided arguments. Hope you reply, PeYonka ( talk) 03:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction:). - PeYonka ( talk) 02:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
If sombody have UN acceptit evidence that the name of the city is not Peja but is Pec, then this articel must be unter the name: Peja and the page named "Peć" must be redirect. My evidence you kann see in UNMIK oficiale page.-- Hipi Zhdripi 00:17, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
I have tagged this article as an article professing a certain POV with its insistence on using the Serbian (including specific diacritics which don't exist in English) for the name of the city of Peja/Pec. I am not convinced that the name "Pec" is "common usage English" as there is no evidence whatsoever provided to backup that claim. Please do not remove the tag unless you provide some evidence that this is common usage in English. -- alchaemia ( talk) 04:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm not convinced that 2-3 history books constitute "common English usage." On the other hand, every international institution in Kosovo, when writing in English, uses the form Albanian Name/Serbian Name when writing names of towns o municipalities (the same convention is used when writing the names of villages, etc). That law can be seen here [1]. I'd be willing to bet you that UNMIK/EU/OSCE/UNDP/UN/Other NGOs have created far more documentation in English with that formula than has Tim Judah ever written, read, or heard about in his life. So, what's common usage here: thousands of separate documents from all these international organizations whose primary language is English, or Tim Judah's books? The neutrality tag is up, and please don't remove it until you prove otherwise. -- alchaemia ( talk) 18:47, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I've added the POV tags again, as I consider this article to push the Serbian POV. I have read the naming conventions rule, and based on that rule I say that you have not provided enough evidence to support your claim that the word "Pec" (with the diacritics) is "common English usage." I don't need to "prove" anything other than the fact that several large multinational organizations, including, but not limited to, UNMIK/UN/KFOR/NATO/OSCE/UNDP/USAID/etc., use the convention Peja/Pec in the thousands of documents they have produced, all in English. Their convention has been adopted by several different organizations when dealing with the question of names and their usage; ICG is one example, or EULEX, or ICO. So, I say to you, what is common usage: what Tim Judah says is common usage, or what can be verified to be as such by reading one of the countless documents produced by these venerable organizations? Do not remove the tags. You have not convinced me that this article is not, in fact, POV. -- alchaemia ( talk) 22:30, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Ah, again I am forced to intervene. My friend, EV Kosovo is de facto run by Albanians who cares what history books say, the fact is the Albanian name should be used (with the Serbian one in brackets) as is the case with the Kosovo article. This is needed in order to maintain consistency. Besides the etymology is Albanian, PEC in Albanian is a child's way of saying penis, so don't take the Wikipedia community for morons, this is obviously a Serb construct which has no bearing on the history of the area or indeed the current state of affairs.
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Page now shifted to correct name according to majority population, WP naming and English usage. Lover Of Democracy ( talk) 08:44, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
The article uses both, we need to be clear and consistent. IJA ( talk) 19:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
--How about that League of Peja huh? I guess it was pretty important considering this is supposed to be NPOV, or should I wait until Kosova gets official* independence?
hehehe one more funny little thing...since the article mentions that there is a large Turkish minority, the reader would assume that the rest is Serbian huh - user —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.17.19 ( talk • contribs) 06:11, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
I have been unable to verify the changes made by an anonymous editor (155.245.229.20, a known vandal) relating to the administrative role of Pec, although I blame my own fact finding skills. Can someone verify these changes or perform a rollback if needed?-- BakerQ 14:46, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
Peć → Pejë – Per WP:CommonName. It is the official name in the Republic of Kosovo, most of the world recognizes Kosovo, it has an overwhelming Albanian majority and the majority of English languages sources prefer Pejë over Peć. The continuation of Peć is considered an insult to the majority of the town folk.
Over 3 million for Pejë v only 37,000 for Pec. Let's keep it neutral ( talk) 11:08, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the pages at this time, per the discussion below. Editor input and data are each inconclusive. (As noted below, more recent sources appear to favor "Peja" over "Peć." However, this advantage is lost when incorporating sources that do not use diacritics.) There is also no clear consensus here to move Pejë District to a title using either "Peja" or "Peć" at this time. Dekimasu よ! 20:27, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
– Per WP:COMMONNAME in the English language. Sources which are specifically referring to the city and not the Monastery of the Patriarchate of Peć favour Peja. When doing a common name test, it is important to minus out the word "Patriarchate" from the search to make sure the search results are about the city and not Monastery. Here is my evidence considering that no one has bothered doing a proper google common name test, Raw google searches aren't valid per WP:GNUM. My google searches are in line with WP:GOOGLE:
It is clear that Peja is the all time and the recent common name for the city (not the Monastery) in the English language. On another note, I would oppose a move for the article " Monastery of the Patriarchate of Peć" to " Monastery of the Patriarchate of Peja". The current article " Peja" should be moved to " Peja (disambiguation)" to accommodate this RM. IJA ( talk) 02:22, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
FYI, the district article has been requested to be renamed, see Talk:Pejë District -- 67.70.35.44 ( talk) 22:37, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I provided sources that the town name in english is spelld Peja and offical mission use this word in english.
224,000 osce rks. Lindi29 ( talk) 20:25, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Some editors ( Lindi29 [8] and some IPs [9] [10] [11]) are repeatedly removing the word "Peć" from the lead section and from the infobox, although that is the title of the article. If you think that the article should be renamed, then removing one name from the lead is not a good way to do it. There is an open discussion above about renaming the article. Even if the article gets renamed, alternative names should be listed in the lead section and in the infobox per Wikipedia:Article titles#Treatment of alternative names. Those editors even changed the "otheruses" hatnote from " Pec (disambiguation)" to " Peja (disambiguation)" although the title of the article is "Peć". I don't want to get involved in an edit war, but those edits are clearly contrary to the policies and guidelines. So, I call those editors to stop reverting, and to come her and discuss this issue. Vanjagenije ( talk) 00:48, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
@ Lindi29 and Vanjagenije: Hello from the german Wikipedia. The german Wikipedia had also discuss about the name Peja. In the conclusion: We had Peć removed and named the city to Peja, because Peja have a albanian majority and we havn't resources for Peć. By the majority municipalitys of serbian in Kosovo the serbian name remains. I will get a little bit active in the english wikipedia because here the citys of Kosovo can be update how the germans wikipedia. I mean the english wikipedia can't find even resources of Peć and then I move by sunday the city to Peja, if somebody don't answer of this discussion. Sorry, if you can't understand me. Elmedinfeta ( talk) 18:15, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
We have that also in the german! And I will you not attack but you are interested in Serbia and this isn't very fair in this case. My opinion is that Peja is right here. I like to speak with a non-serb and non-albanian person. Is here somebody? You know someone? Thank you for your activity of this discussion. Elmedinfeta ( talk) 22:51, 14 May 2017 (UTC).
non-serb and non-albanian persons should be discussing? Vanjagenije (talk) 23:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes, thats right. But in my years as a teenager I didn't have make good experience with serbian. Please don't feel attacked but you know what I mean. I think with serbian I can't talk about serbian names in Kosovo to moved it on albanian. Elmedinfeta ( talk) 23:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)