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No references, yeah that's it. The captions could do with full stops too. Yeah. H ig hway Batman! 21:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone else feel that this section is not needed in this article? They each have their own article and the information is not really relevant to Peggy's storylines Gungadin 15:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Barbara pleads for less Peggy romance? - ironic with the reported love interest of
Archie Mitchell?
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Do you think that stuff on the be=reast cancer storyline that ive added to reception would be better under "breast cancer"? I'm thinking it's more reception to the storyline than to Peggy. What do you think? Gung adin 00:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
"That “Kill him!” Oh, I didn’t want to do that. But there we go, she didn’t know what she was saying, she was having a nervous breakdown." [3]. Thought it would be interesting if the development section is expanded to include her marriage to Archie. AnemoneProjectors ( what?) 18:03, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
It has been revealed during Peggy's political campaign that she was a pole dancer for the '60s gangland. Everyone in Walford found out about this part of her past and Peggy gradually became open towards it and used it in her speech at The Vic.
I find it absolutely ludicrous that people won't accept her as a fictional erotic dancer, however, I am given the power to anyone so it could be a democratic poll. Remember Peggy's pole dancing photo was on the Walford Gazette and she even put a photograph of this in her pub.
Please consider carefully about this.
Yours sincerely,
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P.S. The power is in your hands. Do not be dictated.-- The Twelfth Doctor ( talk) 19:39, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I just lost my internet connection as I sent this, but never mind... Barbara Windsor was interviewed today by Dale Winton on Steve Wright's Radio 2 show, and lots of stuff was mentioned that could be used here. She said she bases Peggy on three people, one of them being Vi Kray, and apparently she denied that before. And she talked about kissing scenes being cut. I didn't hear the whole thing but it should be in iPlayer later. I would strongly recommend that someone listens to it for inclusion in this article before it's no longer available (after a week). Also, don't forget she's on Alan Carr's Chatty Man this Sunday, so maybe we can get some info from that too. AnemoneProjectors ( talk) 15:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Turns out it wasn't Mike Reid but his wife Shirley. I'm watching Windsor's interview with Piers Morgan and she said she based Peggy's look on Violet Kray, her temper on Shirley Reid and her snobbishness on her own mother. This part needs to be rewritten because it reads kind of wrong. Anemone Projectors 21:24, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the sources in the sources section above have been used in the article, but here are some more:
Also, I think as Windsor is leaving, it would be nice to get this up to at least GA standard. Who's with me? AnemoneProjectors ( talk) 13:04, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Is this still listed as a GA nominee? How long is it going to take now? I know it takes a long time. But the article still isn't finished. I remembered something that could be mentioned. Was it Alastair Campbell who gave advice on Peggy's council campaign? AnemoneProjectors ( talk) 14:49, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Well it seems I got confused back in December, as it wasn't nominated (I did work that out a while back in a conversation with Frickative), but it's been nominated now so we should try to work these sources in, as the last major update was back in November - since then it's just been plot and minor stuff. anemoneprojectors talk 01:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Just wanted to flag this up for discussion - if we're aiming for GA, I think having 7 pieces of non-free media in the article is too much. I think the infobox images and Peggy in 1995 are perfectly justifiable on the grounds of visual identification, and the post re-cast image is well discussed in the creation section, but I don't think the others are as easily defensible. The screenshots are iconic moments, but, we don't discuss the images themselves, and don't really need illustration to show that Peggy and Frank got married, or that Peggy got a bit slap-happy. Same with the last one, it's interesting that Peggy was spoofed on 2D:TV, but we don't have anything discussing the image itself, so it's not really serving an encyclopaedic purpose. Same again with the sound file - although we reference that it is her catchphrase, we don't need to hear her say it to know that, and though I've had a search, I haven't been able to find any additional sources to bolster it, such as why that phrase was decided on, who developed it etc. Although I don't think the article would be straight out failed on the grounds of too much non-free content, Wikipedia seems to be getting a lot tougher on copyright issues of late, and I think a decent review would ask for at least a few to be cut, so we may as well discuss ahead of time which we could bear to lose. Frickative 20:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
For those who keep adding this to the infobox: Windsor may want to return in 2012, but notghing has been confirmed, so until that happens, the duration should not state that she will definitely return in 2012. GunGagdin Moan 16:55, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Just thought I would say that Windsor has now completely ruled out a return. Based on her reasons for leaving, I couldn't see her ever wanting to come back anyway. Anemone Projectors 11:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Not trying to be difficult AP - I feel I should point that out - but I'm not sure this information about ruling out a return should be included. I have watched the interview she did with Piers Morgan (the Sun article quotes from this) and she makes no reference to this. It seems the journos latched on to something and made a big deal of it when it was never really said and if it was said then it was not as big a deal as they have made it sound as I can't even recall it being said. Perhaps the quotes have been taken out of context. In the past Lindsey Coulson and Patsy Palmer have both 'ruled out' returns too. I don't see a need for including this information on a character page. It would be more suited to the EE section on the Barbara Windsor article, if anywhere, as it is more about the actress. At the very least a brief return for Peggy several years down the line seems almost inevitable. However I'm willing to be persuaded by your argument for including the info.
To me it seems premature at this stage as there would be no question of the character returning so soon anyway - like with any character. So what's so important about including the 'no return' info for Peggy. I don't think anyone would expect her to return so soon as returns are never usually in question until at least a few years down the line.
Just thought I'd raise it anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.108.72 ( talk) 04:18, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
There's a short interview with Steve McFadden in next week's Radio Times about the casting of Barbara Windsor. If no one else can get access to it then I'll try to find some time to incorporate the info. Bradley0110 ( talk) 11:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
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I found the sound clip to be far too loud. Is it just my speakers or do we need a quieter alternative?-- Editor510 drop us a line, mate 20:15, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Peggy needs a new pic because the one she has is 2 years old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.14.23.57 ( talk) 20:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
I think Peggy's duration should be like this: 1994–2003, 2004, 2005–10, 2013, seeming as the break she took in 2003 was more than a year long, like Phil's duration. Tinamckintyre23 (Come and talk!) 10:19, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
But she didn't return in 2004, she left in 2003 and returned in 2005. Therefore, more than one year. So I think her duration should be like this: 1994–2003, 2005–10, 2013. Tinamckintyre23 (Come and talk!) 17:54, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
The article says "returning briefly to attend her daughter Sam's wedding to local businessman Andy Hunter" which was indeed in 2004. Stephenb (Talk) 17:58, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but that was in March 2005. Maybe your memory is wrong. Tinamckintyre23 ( talk) 20:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Nope, just watched the 26 May 2005 episode on YouTube, and he's still in it. Tinamckintyre23 ( talk) 21:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
And he was in the cast list for the 26 May 2005 episode, according to the BBC, EastEnders's OFFICAL source for everything. Tinamckintyre23 ( talk) 21:36, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't have one at the minute as I'm on a mobile, but I'll find one when I get off it and put it on here. Tinamckintyre23 (Come and talk!) 08:16, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I can't find a link, as the BBC EastEnders cast list for that episode seems to have closed....? Odd.... Tinamckintyre23 ( talk) 09:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Just ignore Tinamckintyre23, she's making things up again. – Anemone Projectors– 16:42, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
The rule was originally twelve months not 'calendar year' when did it change and was it a change that people agreed on or is it something else one person, who likes to control these articles, cooked up and everyone else had to go with? What's the point in having rules if they are not consistent and keep being chopped and changed all the time. Peggy was away from May 2003 until September 2004 that is over one year. She was then away for a further year until September 2005. Like David she only returned as a guest character between her two stints, so I believe her duration should read 1991, 1994-2003, 2004, 2005-2010, 2013. Who cares about the infoboxes being 'cluttered' if the information provided is accurate. Having five durations is hardly 'cluttered'. Some of the Corrie articles have more durations than that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.105.54 ( talk) 19:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Well I recall it being twelve months, which seems a lot more reasonable, unless someone made a mistake on one of the talk pages when discussing the rule. Nothing will change your mind, however that isn't going to stop me from having an opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.105.54 ( talk) 21:24, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Peggy wasn't living in Cornwall in 2013 she was holidaying there, with Phil planning to meet her with Lexi. When she returned in September 2013 she mentioned getting a flight to London, and said she wasn't staying and was going back to Portugal, so she was already living in Portugal by this point. This article is misleading. As is the part about visiting Dot following Nick's death as it implies that she knew about Nick's death and showed up to help Dot - when, in reality, she actually showed up to have a go at her over Nick cutting the brakes and setting up Phil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.222.223 ( talk) 13:35, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
I don't know if I agree with the image of a near death Peggy being used here. And if we are to use it, can we make it so that it's better cropped? GunGagdin Moan 00:46, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
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No references, yeah that's it. The captions could do with full stops too. Yeah. H ig hway Batman! 21:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone else feel that this section is not needed in this article? They each have their own article and the information is not really relevant to Peggy's storylines Gungadin 15:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Barbara pleads for less Peggy romance? - ironic with the reported love interest of
Archie Mitchell?
anemone│
projectors 12:17, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Wycombe leader urges women to follow example of soap Who'd've thunk it?
anemone│
projectors 20:52, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Do you think that stuff on the be=reast cancer storyline that ive added to reception would be better under "breast cancer"? I'm thinking it's more reception to the storyline than to Peggy. What do you think? Gung adin 00:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
"That “Kill him!” Oh, I didn’t want to do that. But there we go, she didn’t know what she was saying, she was having a nervous breakdown." [3]. Thought it would be interesting if the development section is expanded to include her marriage to Archie. AnemoneProjectors ( what?) 18:03, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
It has been revealed during Peggy's political campaign that she was a pole dancer for the '60s gangland. Everyone in Walford found out about this part of her past and Peggy gradually became open towards it and used it in her speech at The Vic.
I find it absolutely ludicrous that people won't accept her as a fictional erotic dancer, however, I am given the power to anyone so it could be a democratic poll. Remember Peggy's pole dancing photo was on the Walford Gazette and she even put a photograph of this in her pub.
Please consider carefully about this.
Yours sincerely,
Regular Editor of EastEnders
P.S. The power is in your hands. Do not be dictated.-- The Twelfth Doctor ( talk) 19:39, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I just lost my internet connection as I sent this, but never mind... Barbara Windsor was interviewed today by Dale Winton on Steve Wright's Radio 2 show, and lots of stuff was mentioned that could be used here. She said she bases Peggy on three people, one of them being Vi Kray, and apparently she denied that before. And she talked about kissing scenes being cut. I didn't hear the whole thing but it should be in iPlayer later. I would strongly recommend that someone listens to it for inclusion in this article before it's no longer available (after a week). Also, don't forget she's on Alan Carr's Chatty Man this Sunday, so maybe we can get some info from that too. AnemoneProjectors ( talk) 15:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Turns out it wasn't Mike Reid but his wife Shirley. I'm watching Windsor's interview with Piers Morgan and she said she based Peggy's look on Violet Kray, her temper on Shirley Reid and her snobbishness on her own mother. This part needs to be rewritten because it reads kind of wrong. Anemone Projectors 21:24, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the sources in the sources section above have been used in the article, but here are some more:
Also, I think as Windsor is leaving, it would be nice to get this up to at least GA standard. Who's with me? AnemoneProjectors ( talk) 13:04, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Is this still listed as a GA nominee? How long is it going to take now? I know it takes a long time. But the article still isn't finished. I remembered something that could be mentioned. Was it Alastair Campbell who gave advice on Peggy's council campaign? AnemoneProjectors ( talk) 14:49, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Well it seems I got confused back in December, as it wasn't nominated (I did work that out a while back in a conversation with Frickative), but it's been nominated now so we should try to work these sources in, as the last major update was back in November - since then it's just been plot and minor stuff. anemoneprojectors talk 01:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Just wanted to flag this up for discussion - if we're aiming for GA, I think having 7 pieces of non-free media in the article is too much. I think the infobox images and Peggy in 1995 are perfectly justifiable on the grounds of visual identification, and the post re-cast image is well discussed in the creation section, but I don't think the others are as easily defensible. The screenshots are iconic moments, but, we don't discuss the images themselves, and don't really need illustration to show that Peggy and Frank got married, or that Peggy got a bit slap-happy. Same with the last one, it's interesting that Peggy was spoofed on 2D:TV, but we don't have anything discussing the image itself, so it's not really serving an encyclopaedic purpose. Same again with the sound file - although we reference that it is her catchphrase, we don't need to hear her say it to know that, and though I've had a search, I haven't been able to find any additional sources to bolster it, such as why that phrase was decided on, who developed it etc. Although I don't think the article would be straight out failed on the grounds of too much non-free content, Wikipedia seems to be getting a lot tougher on copyright issues of late, and I think a decent review would ask for at least a few to be cut, so we may as well discuss ahead of time which we could bear to lose. Frickative 20:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
For those who keep adding this to the infobox: Windsor may want to return in 2012, but notghing has been confirmed, so until that happens, the duration should not state that she will definitely return in 2012. GunGagdin Moan 16:55, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Just thought I would say that Windsor has now completely ruled out a return. Based on her reasons for leaving, I couldn't see her ever wanting to come back anyway. Anemone Projectors 11:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Not trying to be difficult AP - I feel I should point that out - but I'm not sure this information about ruling out a return should be included. I have watched the interview she did with Piers Morgan (the Sun article quotes from this) and she makes no reference to this. It seems the journos latched on to something and made a big deal of it when it was never really said and if it was said then it was not as big a deal as they have made it sound as I can't even recall it being said. Perhaps the quotes have been taken out of context. In the past Lindsey Coulson and Patsy Palmer have both 'ruled out' returns too. I don't see a need for including this information on a character page. It would be more suited to the EE section on the Barbara Windsor article, if anywhere, as it is more about the actress. At the very least a brief return for Peggy several years down the line seems almost inevitable. However I'm willing to be persuaded by your argument for including the info.
To me it seems premature at this stage as there would be no question of the character returning so soon anyway - like with any character. So what's so important about including the 'no return' info for Peggy. I don't think anyone would expect her to return so soon as returns are never usually in question until at least a few years down the line.
Just thought I'd raise it anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.108.72 ( talk) 04:18, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
There's a short interview with Steve McFadden in next week's Radio Times about the casting of Barbara Windsor. If no one else can get access to it then I'll try to find some time to incorporate the info. Bradley0110 ( talk) 11:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
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I found the sound clip to be far too loud. Is it just my speakers or do we need a quieter alternative?-- Editor510 drop us a line, mate 20:15, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Peggy needs a new pic because the one she has is 2 years old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.14.23.57 ( talk) 20:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
I think Peggy's duration should be like this: 1994–2003, 2004, 2005–10, 2013, seeming as the break she took in 2003 was more than a year long, like Phil's duration. Tinamckintyre23 (Come and talk!) 10:19, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
But she didn't return in 2004, she left in 2003 and returned in 2005. Therefore, more than one year. So I think her duration should be like this: 1994–2003, 2005–10, 2013. Tinamckintyre23 (Come and talk!) 17:54, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
The article says "returning briefly to attend her daughter Sam's wedding to local businessman Andy Hunter" which was indeed in 2004. Stephenb (Talk) 17:58, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but that was in March 2005. Maybe your memory is wrong. Tinamckintyre23 ( talk) 20:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Nope, just watched the 26 May 2005 episode on YouTube, and he's still in it. Tinamckintyre23 ( talk) 21:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
And he was in the cast list for the 26 May 2005 episode, according to the BBC, EastEnders's OFFICAL source for everything. Tinamckintyre23 ( talk) 21:36, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't have one at the minute as I'm on a mobile, but I'll find one when I get off it and put it on here. Tinamckintyre23 (Come and talk!) 08:16, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I can't find a link, as the BBC EastEnders cast list for that episode seems to have closed....? Odd.... Tinamckintyre23 ( talk) 09:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Just ignore Tinamckintyre23, she's making things up again. – Anemone Projectors– 16:42, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
The rule was originally twelve months not 'calendar year' when did it change and was it a change that people agreed on or is it something else one person, who likes to control these articles, cooked up and everyone else had to go with? What's the point in having rules if they are not consistent and keep being chopped and changed all the time. Peggy was away from May 2003 until September 2004 that is over one year. She was then away for a further year until September 2005. Like David she only returned as a guest character between her two stints, so I believe her duration should read 1991, 1994-2003, 2004, 2005-2010, 2013. Who cares about the infoboxes being 'cluttered' if the information provided is accurate. Having five durations is hardly 'cluttered'. Some of the Corrie articles have more durations than that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.105.54 ( talk) 19:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Well I recall it being twelve months, which seems a lot more reasonable, unless someone made a mistake on one of the talk pages when discussing the rule. Nothing will change your mind, however that isn't going to stop me from having an opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.105.54 ( talk) 21:24, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Peggy wasn't living in Cornwall in 2013 she was holidaying there, with Phil planning to meet her with Lexi. When she returned in September 2013 she mentioned getting a flight to London, and said she wasn't staying and was going back to Portugal, so she was already living in Portugal by this point. This article is misleading. As is the part about visiting Dot following Nick's death as it implies that she knew about Nick's death and showed up to help Dot - when, in reality, she actually showed up to have a go at her over Nick cutting the brakes and setting up Phil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.222.223 ( talk) 13:35, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
I don't know if I agree with the image of a near death Peggy being used here. And if we are to use it, can we make it so that it's better cropped? GunGagdin Moan 00:46, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
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