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Should this article be at Payload specialist to comply with naming conventions?-- Peta 02:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
So why don't NASA plan on using any more payload specialists for the rest of the shuttle program's life? Have they given a reason? Stevage 17:41, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I added these links to pilot, flight engineer and mission commander (took them from Payload Specialist), but I think the links are currently not really helpful (there should be more information about the other functions). It would be nice if someone with better knowledge could fix this, either by adding the space flight related information to those pages or by creating new articles. 84.144.37.193 16:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
The title "payload specialist" should not be capitalized, just as "lieutenant colonel" should not be, per MOS:MILTERMS and MOS:JOBTITLES. Eleven years ago there may have been different views, as evidenced in the section above (Name). Saying it's a "formal title" nowadays doesn't trump the MoS. Discussion or agreement? Chris the speller yack 15:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Chris the Speller has this exactly right. A payload specialist is "one who specializes in transporting cargo", no matter that they do so in NASA's employ. Primergrey ( talk) 07:11, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: both moved. ( non-admin closure) TonyBallioni ( talk) 20:03, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
– "payload specialist" and "mission specialist" are job titles and common nouns, just as "sales manager" is. Wikipedia does not capitalize job titles unless "followed by a person's name to form a title, i.e., when they can be considered to have become part of the name", per MOS:JOBTITLES. Chris the speller yack 20:47, 16 March 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. — JFG talk 05:43, 24 March 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa ( talk) 06:04, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Apologies for delaying this one but I needed some time to think! It's borderline IMO, and I thought there was a chance I'd end up opposing.
There is certainly a case for capitalising. This is a particular, titled role. There could in theory be a person on the mission who was a specialist in the mission, so was a mission specialist, but was designated in another primary role... for example, a Mission Commander who had previously served as Mission Specialist (the role) on a similar mission... and so was not serving as a Mission Specialist on this one.
But on reflection, I think this has a lot in common with a military rank such as major general, so for the moment at least it's valid to decap.
Again, apologies for the delay, and I would also support an immediate close and move per the instructions at wp:RM#Relisting. Andrewa ( talk) 22:37, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
There's a note at the Mission Specialist TP directing those who want to weigh in on that page's RM to discuss it here. That can't be right. Primergrey ( talk) 03:47, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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Should this article be at Payload specialist to comply with naming conventions?-- Peta 02:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
So why don't NASA plan on using any more payload specialists for the rest of the shuttle program's life? Have they given a reason? Stevage 17:41, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I added these links to pilot, flight engineer and mission commander (took them from Payload Specialist), but I think the links are currently not really helpful (there should be more information about the other functions). It would be nice if someone with better knowledge could fix this, either by adding the space flight related information to those pages or by creating new articles. 84.144.37.193 16:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
The title "payload specialist" should not be capitalized, just as "lieutenant colonel" should not be, per MOS:MILTERMS and MOS:JOBTITLES. Eleven years ago there may have been different views, as evidenced in the section above (Name). Saying it's a "formal title" nowadays doesn't trump the MoS. Discussion or agreement? Chris the speller yack 15:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Chris the Speller has this exactly right. A payload specialist is "one who specializes in transporting cargo", no matter that they do so in NASA's employ. Primergrey ( talk) 07:11, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: both moved. ( non-admin closure) TonyBallioni ( talk) 20:03, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
– "payload specialist" and "mission specialist" are job titles and common nouns, just as "sales manager" is. Wikipedia does not capitalize job titles unless "followed by a person's name to form a title, i.e., when they can be considered to have become part of the name", per MOS:JOBTITLES. Chris the speller yack 20:47, 16 March 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. — JFG talk 05:43, 24 March 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa ( talk) 06:04, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Apologies for delaying this one but I needed some time to think! It's borderline IMO, and I thought there was a chance I'd end up opposing.
There is certainly a case for capitalising. This is a particular, titled role. There could in theory be a person on the mission who was a specialist in the mission, so was a mission specialist, but was designated in another primary role... for example, a Mission Commander who had previously served as Mission Specialist (the role) on a similar mission... and so was not serving as a Mission Specialist on this one.
But on reflection, I think this has a lot in common with a military rank such as major general, so for the moment at least it's valid to decap.
Again, apologies for the delay, and I would also support an immediate close and move per the instructions at wp:RM#Relisting. Andrewa ( talk) 22:37, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
There's a note at the Mission Specialist TP directing those who want to weigh in on that page's RM to discuss it here. That can't be right. Primergrey ( talk) 03:47, 3 April 2017 (UTC)