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The last paragraph under the "Sadilek and Cather" section states: "Shortly after this, Annie Sadílek moved to Colorado with a railroader, who impregnated and then abandoned her." While factually true (as far as is known, they did elope if I recall correctly), this reads almost like a rape case...If no one objects, I'm going to re-word this a bit to avoid POV. By the way, the man's name was Murphy and his grave still exists in southern Webster County. So he returned at some point also. His gravesite photos and a brief bio can be seen on the Willa Cather Foundation website...
Engr105th (
talk) 15:00, 15 October 2011 (UTC)reply
If you re-word it, please include a citation. I wasn't able to find the gravesite photos or the bio in a quick search of the Cather Found'n website, so if you use that as a source, please make sure to link to the specific subpage(s) where they can be found.
Ammodramus (
talk) 16:14, 15 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Yes, any new info added def needs a source...I wasn't planning on adding Murphy info (after all, this is about the Pavelka homesite). Just wanted to make that sentence a bit more neutral. I've read a lot about Annie Sadilek Pavelka, but seen nothing about Murphy's side of the story. I've also read that they married, but the info (if true at all) is sketchy and conflicting...To see the photo, click on Ref #9 on the References list, and scroll down to "Murphy Grave". There are other grave photos and refs to Murphy on the Cather Found'n site, which is thorough but tedious to navigate. On the site's Red Cloud tab, I think Country Tours gallery shows other photos. But the site does indeed acknowledge Murphy.
Engr105th (
talk) 17:29, 17 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Made a stab at changing the wording, for non-POV. Nothing is materially changed however. The ref is superscript #4 (Willa Cather Timeline) at the end of the paragraph. Scroll to 1892 - it states Annie goes west, then returns and has her child.
Engr105th (
talk) 18:20, 17 October 2011 (UTC)reply
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The last paragraph under the "Sadilek and Cather" section states: "Shortly after this, Annie Sadílek moved to Colorado with a railroader, who impregnated and then abandoned her." While factually true (as far as is known, they did elope if I recall correctly), this reads almost like a rape case...If no one objects, I'm going to re-word this a bit to avoid POV. By the way, the man's name was Murphy and his grave still exists in southern Webster County. So he returned at some point also. His gravesite photos and a brief bio can be seen on the Willa Cather Foundation website...
Engr105th (
talk) 15:00, 15 October 2011 (UTC)reply
If you re-word it, please include a citation. I wasn't able to find the gravesite photos or the bio in a quick search of the Cather Found'n website, so if you use that as a source, please make sure to link to the specific subpage(s) where they can be found.
Ammodramus (
talk) 16:14, 15 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Yes, any new info added def needs a source...I wasn't planning on adding Murphy info (after all, this is about the Pavelka homesite). Just wanted to make that sentence a bit more neutral. I've read a lot about Annie Sadilek Pavelka, but seen nothing about Murphy's side of the story. I've also read that they married, but the info (if true at all) is sketchy and conflicting...To see the photo, click on Ref #9 on the References list, and scroll down to "Murphy Grave". There are other grave photos and refs to Murphy on the Cather Found'n site, which is thorough but tedious to navigate. On the site's Red Cloud tab, I think Country Tours gallery shows other photos. But the site does indeed acknowledge Murphy.
Engr105th (
talk) 17:29, 17 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Made a stab at changing the wording, for non-POV. Nothing is materially changed however. The ref is superscript #4 (Willa Cather Timeline) at the end of the paragraph. Scroll to 1892 - it states Annie goes west, then returns and has her child.
Engr105th (
talk) 18:20, 17 October 2011 (UTC)reply