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I noticed some sections regarding potentially offensive language had been removed. There seems to have been some debate in the articles history, and I feel it best to discuss it here.
As far as I can see there are legitimate grounds for keeping the information, in that it was clearly newsworthy enough to;
- A - be reported in several papers (and not just a tabloid)
- B - result in comments (and an apology) being issued by Monaghan himself
- C - it doesn't seem to be weasel words as evidence is provided in the sources, which is in turn is accepted as accurate by Monaghan himself
I think we must remind ourselves that articles are not intended to serve potentially as CV's for their subjects, but are instead intended to include newsworthy and notable information on said individuals. I think potentially offensive comments, especially comments for which Monaghan has apologized, certainly seems to fulfill this criteria - particularly given it has been reported in several sources.
Regards, MrPenguin20 ( talk) 13:52, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
I added this
Monaghan complained that the BBC "works to make Scotland literally appear less significant: "The BBC Versus Reality"." [1] because the map of the UK they use on their weather forecasts does not show Scotland as large as one using Mercator Projection. This led to accusations from Dan Hodges and others that "the SNP have literally become flat earthers" [2]
But it was quickly reverted by someone who appears to be an SNP supporter on the alleged grounds of "Poorly sourced POV trivia".
Admittedly these tweets are primary sources but that's OK when they are the authentic posts of the subjects in question. I note that this has now been picked up the The Spectator Weathering the storm: new anti-Scottish BBC plot revealed and if it is further picked up by Reliable Sources I will re-insert it, and suggest that anyone with a track record as something of a CyberNat should abstain from getting involved since its a COI. NBeale ( talk) 16:16, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Paul Monaghan refers to himself as 'Dr' and wishes this title to be used in addressing him. The title derives from not from a medical qualification but from his social studies Ph.D. This is specific, noteworthy and factually verified information.
However User Drchriswilliams has now removed this edit three times. Drchriswilliams is an SNP organiser and his edit is apparently actuated by party concerns. It is not standard practice for non-medical doctorate holders to refer to themselves in this way aside from within academic confines, and Drchriswilliams appears not to want Paul Monaghan's use of his title to be mentioned.
This image shows clearly that Paul Monaghan refers to himself on his official livery as 'dr'.
http://paulmonaghan.scot/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/brora_office_openday1.jpg
This vandalism must stop and I am applying to have this page protected. Hubertgrove ( talk) 13:52, 26 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hubertgrove ( talk • contribs) 13:45, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
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I noticed some sections regarding potentially offensive language had been removed. There seems to have been some debate in the articles history, and I feel it best to discuss it here.
As far as I can see there are legitimate grounds for keeping the information, in that it was clearly newsworthy enough to;
- A - be reported in several papers (and not just a tabloid)
- B - result in comments (and an apology) being issued by Monaghan himself
- C - it doesn't seem to be weasel words as evidence is provided in the sources, which is in turn is accepted as accurate by Monaghan himself
I think we must remind ourselves that articles are not intended to serve potentially as CV's for their subjects, but are instead intended to include newsworthy and notable information on said individuals. I think potentially offensive comments, especially comments for which Monaghan has apologized, certainly seems to fulfill this criteria - particularly given it has been reported in several sources.
Regards, MrPenguin20 ( talk) 13:52, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
I added this
Monaghan complained that the BBC "works to make Scotland literally appear less significant: "The BBC Versus Reality"." [1] because the map of the UK they use on their weather forecasts does not show Scotland as large as one using Mercator Projection. This led to accusations from Dan Hodges and others that "the SNP have literally become flat earthers" [2]
But it was quickly reverted by someone who appears to be an SNP supporter on the alleged grounds of "Poorly sourced POV trivia".
Admittedly these tweets are primary sources but that's OK when they are the authentic posts of the subjects in question. I note that this has now been picked up the The Spectator Weathering the storm: new anti-Scottish BBC plot revealed and if it is further picked up by Reliable Sources I will re-insert it, and suggest that anyone with a track record as something of a CyberNat should abstain from getting involved since its a COI. NBeale ( talk) 16:16, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Paul Monaghan refers to himself as 'Dr' and wishes this title to be used in addressing him. The title derives from not from a medical qualification but from his social studies Ph.D. This is specific, noteworthy and factually verified information.
However User Drchriswilliams has now removed this edit three times. Drchriswilliams is an SNP organiser and his edit is apparently actuated by party concerns. It is not standard practice for non-medical doctorate holders to refer to themselves in this way aside from within academic confines, and Drchriswilliams appears not to want Paul Monaghan's use of his title to be mentioned.
This image shows clearly that Paul Monaghan refers to himself on his official livery as 'dr'.
http://paulmonaghan.scot/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/brora_office_openday1.jpg
This vandalism must stop and I am applying to have this page protected. Hubertgrove ( talk) 13:52, 26 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hubertgrove ( talk • contribs) 13:45, 26 April 2017 (UTC)