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Would someone tell the schmuck who continually refers to Ohio State as THE Ohio State University that he is incorrect. The only people who use this term are the arrogant fans and alumni of OSU--thus that makes it a violation of NPOV.
I don't know about that. All of the colleges copyright notices include the word "the" before Ohio State. The Ohio State University's logo actually includes the word "The" as well. The Ohio State University — Official website Giddeanx ( talk) 18:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I do not understand why Paul Brown is included in this category. The Southern Manifesto was a document denouncing 'Brown vs Board of Education', signed by some Southern Congressmen and Senators. The only things I am aware of connecting Paul Brown to this subject are his name (coincidence) and that he helped end the color line in pro football. Is there something that directly connects him to the battle to desegregate schools? Clubiguana 05:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)Clubiguana
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Two of the paragraphs in here conflict each other on the naming of the Browns. The second to last in the Ohio State part, and the first one in the Cleveland Browns Part. Rkrgoat ( talk) 17:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Wiseguy007 07:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC) The Cleveland Browns page is the most accurate concerning the history of the team's name ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Browns#Founding_and_success_in_the_AAFC_.281944.E2.80.9349.29). Contrary to popular belief, the team was not named after Paul Brown and it is incorrectly stated that it is on the Paul Brown page.
What are you people talking about? 75.150.195.49 ( talk) 20:41, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
The part of the infobox that lists his former teams says he was a player, not a coach. Somebody should probably fix that. 67.161.188.134 ( talk) 23:44, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
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This looks pretty good overall. There are a few concerns with encyclopedic tone, but nothing major, just a list of nit-picks.
Lead
Early life
High school coaching career
College and military career
Professional coaching career
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I will place the article on hold for the moment, but there should be no real problems. Sarastro1 ( talk) 22:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Just want to say thanks for the excellent and thorough review. Everything is much appreciated.-- Batard0 ( talk) 14:20, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Final replies
1) you left out http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/10675453052_pb,_the_paul_brown_story not a good job there; that's a published work - this alone should not make it a good article
2) oh my goodness, where is this book in this article: * When Pride Still Mattered, A Life of Vince Lombardi, by David Maraniss, 1999, ISBN 978-0-618-90499-0 ....strong evidence is produced by Maraniss that Brown was in fact the catalyst for Lombardi developing his football strategy from Paul Brown
3) oh my, please reevaluate Piascik's book, clearly he is saying Brown is the greatest football coach of all time
4) oh my, where is this book? : * Ratterman, George; with Deindorfer, Robert G. (1962). Confessions of a Gypsy Quarterback; Inside the Wacky World of Pro Football. New York: Coward-McCann, Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.33.13 ( talk) 02:28, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Massively complicated stuff there. I do not think it is treated that well in this article. I certainly do not believe it is GA stuff, that being said, it's a very, very, very complicated issue. 66.234.33.13 ( talk) 02:32, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
A failure in this article to account for how Paul Brown dealt with Jim Brown's perspective on race relations during his career will prohibit this article from ever being considered FA. I am sorry. 66.234.33.13 ( talk) 02:44, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
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I would like proof or references that Paul Brown got ideas from Jock Sutherland. The paragraph referring to Sutherland IS NOT footnoted. Where does this information come from? 208.228.103.33 15:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)Alex Everitt |
Last edited at 15:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 02:25, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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Would someone tell the schmuck who continually refers to Ohio State as THE Ohio State University that he is incorrect. The only people who use this term are the arrogant fans and alumni of OSU--thus that makes it a violation of NPOV.
I don't know about that. All of the colleges copyright notices include the word "the" before Ohio State. The Ohio State University's logo actually includes the word "The" as well. The Ohio State University — Official website Giddeanx ( talk) 18:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I do not understand why Paul Brown is included in this category. The Southern Manifesto was a document denouncing 'Brown vs Board of Education', signed by some Southern Congressmen and Senators. The only things I am aware of connecting Paul Brown to this subject are his name (coincidence) and that he helped end the color line in pro football. Is there something that directly connects him to the battle to desegregate schools? Clubiguana 05:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)Clubiguana
Image:Hist Paul Brown.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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Image:Hist paul brown.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 23:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Two of the paragraphs in here conflict each other on the naming of the Browns. The second to last in the Ohio State part, and the first one in the Cleveland Browns Part. Rkrgoat ( talk) 17:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Wiseguy007 07:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC) The Cleveland Browns page is the most accurate concerning the history of the team's name ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Browns#Founding_and_success_in_the_AAFC_.281944.E2.80.9349.29). Contrary to popular belief, the team was not named after Paul Brown and it is incorrectly stated that it is on the Paul Brown page.
What are you people talking about? 75.150.195.49 ( talk) 20:41, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
The part of the infobox that lists his former teams says he was a player, not a coach. Somebody should probably fix that. 67.161.188.134 ( talk) 23:44, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Sarastro1 ( talk · contribs) 22:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
This looks pretty good overall. There are a few concerns with encyclopedic tone, but nothing major, just a list of nit-picks.
Lead
Early life
High school coaching career
College and military career
Professional coaching career
Coaching tree
Head coaching record
General
Sources
Images
I will place the article on hold for the moment, but there should be no real problems. Sarastro1 ( talk) 22:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Just want to say thanks for the excellent and thorough review. Everything is much appreciated.-- Batard0 ( talk) 14:20, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Final replies
1) you left out http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/10675453052_pb,_the_paul_brown_story not a good job there; that's a published work - this alone should not make it a good article
2) oh my goodness, where is this book in this article: * When Pride Still Mattered, A Life of Vince Lombardi, by David Maraniss, 1999, ISBN 978-0-618-90499-0 ....strong evidence is produced by Maraniss that Brown was in fact the catalyst for Lombardi developing his football strategy from Paul Brown
3) oh my, please reevaluate Piascik's book, clearly he is saying Brown is the greatest football coach of all time
4) oh my, where is this book? : * Ratterman, George; with Deindorfer, Robert G. (1962). Confessions of a Gypsy Quarterback; Inside the Wacky World of Pro Football. New York: Coward-McCann, Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.33.13 ( talk) 02:28, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Massively complicated stuff there. I do not think it is treated that well in this article. I certainly do not believe it is GA stuff, that being said, it's a very, very, very complicated issue. 66.234.33.13 ( talk) 02:32, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
A failure in this article to account for how Paul Brown dealt with Jim Brown's perspective on race relations during his career will prohibit this article from ever being considered FA. I am sorry. 66.234.33.13 ( talk) 02:44, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Paul Brown/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
I would like proof or references that Paul Brown got ideas from Jock Sutherland. The paragraph referring to Sutherland IS NOT footnoted. Where does this information come from? 208.228.103.33 15:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)Alex Everitt |
Last edited at 15:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 02:25, 30 April 2016 (UTC)