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Change this sentence:
In February 2019, Andrew was named Creative Director of both men’s and women’s categories at Salvatore Ferragamo after having served as Women’s Creative Director since October 2017.
to:
In February 2019, Andrew was named Creative Director of both men’s and women’s categories at Salvatore Ferragamo after having served as Women’s Creative Director since October 2017 and consequently elected to shutter his eponymous shoe brand. After leaving Ferragamo in May 2021, Andrew relaunched his namesake brand in February 2022.
Sources:
Jennifercoxpr ( talk) 19:55, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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Hi there,
In January 2017, Toddst1 added a “COI” tag to this page. No doubt, that was because earlier that day, a user with the account name of “ PaulAndrew” tried to edit this page directly.
Similarly, in February 2022, Paul’s P.R. rep, “Jennifercoxpr,” tried to edit this page directly, both under her own account and anonymously.
Paul and Jennifer apologize for their actions, and Paul has hired me to help him navigate Wikipedia in line with our COI rules. To that end, I’ve disclosed my conflict on the “Talk” pages for both him and myself, and I’ve reviewed the list of changes he’d like to make.
I’ve narrowed down these requests to those that I think will most benefit our readers (#3 in the list below), and I’ve added a few that remove possible NPOV violations (#1). I’ve also proposed fixing broken links (#2) and reformatting the “awards” section (#4).
Finally, I’m hereby pinging Fabrickator and Duke Gilmore since they previously addressed the requests from Jennifercoxpr.
Thank you for your consideration.
Signed,
BlueRoses13 (
talk) 19:33, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
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1. NPOV ConcernsWill removing the following 3 sentences suffice to remove concerns about NPOV — and thus to remove the COI tag? a. This sentence from the “career” section: Paul Andrew shoes have been worn by Lupita Nyong'o, Emma Watson, and Jessica Chastain [1] and Emmy Rossum. [2] [3] [4] b. This sentence from the “awards” section: In 2013, Paul Andrew was awarded the "Launch of the Year" by Footwear News, [5] and was awarded "Accessories Design of the Year" for the 2013 edition of "Who is on Next?" [6] c. This sentence from the “awards” section: In March 2015, Paul Andrew was nominated for a CFDA Swarovski Award for Accessory Design. [7] 2. Better Footnotesa. The “awards” section says this: In November 2014, he won the 11th annual Council of Fashion Designers of America/ Vogue Fashion Fund, [8] The footnote here is broken. Here’s a working one, from the New York Times: “ CFDA/Vogue Fashion Fund Picks Paul Andrew as Winner” (2014): In November 2014, he won the 11th annual Council of Fashion Designers of America/ Vogue Fashion Fund, [9] b. The “awards” section says this: In August 2016, Paul Andrew's debut men's collection received an ACE Award for Brand Launch of the Year. [10] The footnote here is broken. Here’s a working one, from Footwear News: “ Sarah Jessica Parker & Paul Andrew Win Big At 2016 ACE Awards” (2016): In August 2016, Paul Andrew's debut men's collection received an ACE Award for Brand Launch of the Year. [11] 3. Ferragamo YearsIt seems odd that the past 6 years of Andrew’s career — where he did award-winning work for one of the most recognizable luxury-good companies — are missing from his Wikipedia page. Can we therefore add the following 3 sentences to the “career” section? Each claim is sourced to a news outlet. In 2016, Andrew was named the director of women’s footwear design at Salvatore Ferragamo. [12] In 2019, after being named creative director at Salvatore Ferragamo, [13] [14] he closed his eponymous shoe brand. [15] After leaving Ferragamo in 2021, [16] Andrew relaunched his eponymous footwear line in 2022. [17] [18] 4. Awards SectionFor easier readability, does it make sense to turn the “awards” section into a list, or even a table? This reformatting would also remove the repetition of “Paul Andrew” in almost every sentence here, and simplify the dates from month and year to just year. Here's a suggested table:
References
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You're kidding, right? TL;DR. Maybe suggest a change, vs a list of all these specific changes. You're getting paid for this, but we don't work for you.
I've WP:BOLDly invoked WP:TNT on the career section as an opportunity to move forward. Perhaps you could draft something in your sandbox. I don't think any of those awards seem particularly notable. Toddst1 ( talk) 01:35, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
CAREER. I agree that the "career" section was problematic; hence the specific tweaks I suggested to improve it. :) So as not to come across as overbearing, I tried to use a scalpel rather than dynamite.
As you requested, I've drafted a new "career" section, which uses a neutral tone, sticks only to the facts that Wikipedia's readers will care about most, and cites reliable sources. Please take a look:
In his early career, Andrew worked with designers such as Narciso Rodriguez, [1] Calvin Klein, [2] and Alexander McQueen. [3] He then spent 10 years working for Donna Karan. [4]
In 2012, Andrew launched his eponymous women's shoe brand. [5]
In 2016, he was named the director of women's footwear design at Salvatore Ferragamo. [6] In 2019, he became the company's creative director. [7]
In 2021, Andrew left Ferragamo, [8] and in 2022, he relaunched his own footwear line. [9]
AWARDS. As for the “awards” section, as it happens, I too employed WP:BOLD; please see the table I proposed last week. It consists of the four most notable awards, as determined by media coverage.
COI. Finally, in light of my disclosure and your edits, is it appropriate to now remove the COI tag?
Thank you for your consideration.
Signed,
BlueRoses13 (
talk) 18:54, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
An impartial editor has reviewed the proposed edit(s) and asked the editor with a conflict of interest to go ahead and make the suggested changes. |
Actualcpscm Thanks for your question. Here are the 3 requests that are outstanding. (Kindly note: I submitted the original request on Jan. 24. and these revised requests, per Toddst1, on Mar. 19.) Thanks for your consideration.
In light of my disclosure and subsequent edits from you (Actualcpsm) and Toddst1, is it appropriate to now remove the COI tag?
At Todd’s request, I drafted a new "career" section, which uses a neutral tone, sticks only to the facts that Wikipedia's readers will care about most, and cites reliable sources. Please take a look:
In his early career, Andrew worked with designers such as Narciso Rodriguez, [10] Calvin Klein, [11] and Alexander McQueen. [12] He then spent 10 years working for Donna Karan. [13]
In 2012, Andrew launched his eponymous women's shoe brand. [14]
In 2016, he was named the director of women's footwear design at Salvatore Ferragamo. [15] In 2019, he became the company's creative director. [16]
In 2021, Andrew left Ferragamo, [17] and in 2022, he relaunched his own footwear line. [18]
For easier readability, does it make sense to turn the various “awards” into a list, or even a table? This reformatting would also remove the repetition of “Paul Andrew” and simplify the dates from month and year to just year. Here's a suggested table:
Year | Award | Notes |
---|---|---|
2014 | The 11th annual Council of Fashion Designers of America/ Vogue Fashion Fund [19] | Andrew was the first and youngest British footwear designer to win. [20] [21] |
2016 | The Council of Fashion Designers of America Swarovski Award for Accessory Design [22] | |
2016 | ACE Award for Brand Launch of the Year [23] | |
2016 | Designer of the Year, The Footwear News Achievement Awards [24] |
Signed,
BlueRoses13 (
talk) 21:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
References
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
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The
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WP:PAID. For advice about reviewing paid contributions, see
WP:COIRESPONSE.
|
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WP:PAID. For advice about reviewing paid contributions, see
WP:COIRESPONSE.
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Individuals with a conflict of interest, particularly those representing the subject of the article, are strongly advised not to directly edit the article. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. You may request corrections or suggest content here on the Talk page for independent editors to review, or contact us if the issue is urgent. |
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. {see below] |
Change this sentence:
In February 2019, Andrew was named Creative Director of both men’s and women’s categories at Salvatore Ferragamo after having served as Women’s Creative Director since October 2017.
to:
In February 2019, Andrew was named Creative Director of both men’s and women’s categories at Salvatore Ferragamo after having served as Women’s Creative Director since October 2017 and consequently elected to shutter his eponymous shoe brand. After leaving Ferragamo in May 2021, Andrew relaunched his namesake brand in February 2022.
Sources:
Jennifercoxpr ( talk) 19:55, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. |
Hi there,
In January 2017, Toddst1 added a “COI” tag to this page. No doubt, that was because earlier that day, a user with the account name of “ PaulAndrew” tried to edit this page directly.
Similarly, in February 2022, Paul’s P.R. rep, “Jennifercoxpr,” tried to edit this page directly, both under her own account and anonymously.
Paul and Jennifer apologize for their actions, and Paul has hired me to help him navigate Wikipedia in line with our COI rules. To that end, I’ve disclosed my conflict on the “Talk” pages for both him and myself, and I’ve reviewed the list of changes he’d like to make.
I’ve narrowed down these requests to those that I think will most benefit our readers (#3 in the list below), and I’ve added a few that remove possible NPOV violations (#1). I’ve also proposed fixing broken links (#2) and reformatting the “awards” section (#4).
Finally, I’m hereby pinging Fabrickator and Duke Gilmore since they previously addressed the requests from Jennifercoxpr.
Thank you for your consideration.
Signed,
BlueRoses13 (
talk) 19:33, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Wall of suggested surgeries to article collapsed
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1. NPOV ConcernsWill removing the following 3 sentences suffice to remove concerns about NPOV — and thus to remove the COI tag? a. This sentence from the “career” section: Paul Andrew shoes have been worn by Lupita Nyong'o, Emma Watson, and Jessica Chastain [1] and Emmy Rossum. [2] [3] [4] b. This sentence from the “awards” section: In 2013, Paul Andrew was awarded the "Launch of the Year" by Footwear News, [5] and was awarded "Accessories Design of the Year" for the 2013 edition of "Who is on Next?" [6] c. This sentence from the “awards” section: In March 2015, Paul Andrew was nominated for a CFDA Swarovski Award for Accessory Design. [7] 2. Better Footnotesa. The “awards” section says this: In November 2014, he won the 11th annual Council of Fashion Designers of America/ Vogue Fashion Fund, [8] The footnote here is broken. Here’s a working one, from the New York Times: “ CFDA/Vogue Fashion Fund Picks Paul Andrew as Winner” (2014): In November 2014, he won the 11th annual Council of Fashion Designers of America/ Vogue Fashion Fund, [9] b. The “awards” section says this: In August 2016, Paul Andrew's debut men's collection received an ACE Award for Brand Launch of the Year. [10] The footnote here is broken. Here’s a working one, from Footwear News: “ Sarah Jessica Parker & Paul Andrew Win Big At 2016 ACE Awards” (2016): In August 2016, Paul Andrew's debut men's collection received an ACE Award for Brand Launch of the Year. [11] 3. Ferragamo YearsIt seems odd that the past 6 years of Andrew’s career — where he did award-winning work for one of the most recognizable luxury-good companies — are missing from his Wikipedia page. Can we therefore add the following 3 sentences to the “career” section? Each claim is sourced to a news outlet. In 2016, Andrew was named the director of women’s footwear design at Salvatore Ferragamo. [12] In 2019, after being named creative director at Salvatore Ferragamo, [13] [14] he closed his eponymous shoe brand. [15] After leaving Ferragamo in 2021, [16] Andrew relaunched his eponymous footwear line in 2022. [17] [18] 4. Awards SectionFor easier readability, does it make sense to turn the “awards” section into a list, or even a table? This reformatting would also remove the repetition of “Paul Andrew” in almost every sentence here, and simplify the dates from month and year to just year. Here's a suggested table:
References
|
You're kidding, right? TL;DR. Maybe suggest a change, vs a list of all these specific changes. You're getting paid for this, but we don't work for you.
I've WP:BOLDly invoked WP:TNT on the career section as an opportunity to move forward. Perhaps you could draft something in your sandbox. I don't think any of those awards seem particularly notable. Toddst1 ( talk) 01:35, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
CAREER. I agree that the "career" section was problematic; hence the specific tweaks I suggested to improve it. :) So as not to come across as overbearing, I tried to use a scalpel rather than dynamite.
As you requested, I've drafted a new "career" section, which uses a neutral tone, sticks only to the facts that Wikipedia's readers will care about most, and cites reliable sources. Please take a look:
In his early career, Andrew worked with designers such as Narciso Rodriguez, [1] Calvin Klein, [2] and Alexander McQueen. [3] He then spent 10 years working for Donna Karan. [4]
In 2012, Andrew launched his eponymous women's shoe brand. [5]
In 2016, he was named the director of women's footwear design at Salvatore Ferragamo. [6] In 2019, he became the company's creative director. [7]
In 2021, Andrew left Ferragamo, [8] and in 2022, he relaunched his own footwear line. [9]
AWARDS. As for the “awards” section, as it happens, I too employed WP:BOLD; please see the table I proposed last week. It consists of the four most notable awards, as determined by media coverage.
COI. Finally, in light of my disclosure and your edits, is it appropriate to now remove the COI tag?
Thank you for your consideration.
Signed,
BlueRoses13 (
talk) 18:54, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
An impartial editor has reviewed the proposed edit(s) and asked the editor with a conflict of interest to go ahead and make the suggested changes. |
Actualcpscm Thanks for your question. Here are the 3 requests that are outstanding. (Kindly note: I submitted the original request on Jan. 24. and these revised requests, per Toddst1, on Mar. 19.) Thanks for your consideration.
In light of my disclosure and subsequent edits from you (Actualcpsm) and Toddst1, is it appropriate to now remove the COI tag?
At Todd’s request, I drafted a new "career" section, which uses a neutral tone, sticks only to the facts that Wikipedia's readers will care about most, and cites reliable sources. Please take a look:
In his early career, Andrew worked with designers such as Narciso Rodriguez, [10] Calvin Klein, [11] and Alexander McQueen. [12] He then spent 10 years working for Donna Karan. [13]
In 2012, Andrew launched his eponymous women's shoe brand. [14]
In 2016, he was named the director of women's footwear design at Salvatore Ferragamo. [15] In 2019, he became the company's creative director. [16]
In 2021, Andrew left Ferragamo, [17] and in 2022, he relaunched his own footwear line. [18]
For easier readability, does it make sense to turn the various “awards” into a list, or even a table? This reformatting would also remove the repetition of “Paul Andrew” and simplify the dates from month and year to just year. Here's a suggested table:
Year | Award | Notes |
---|---|---|
2014 | The 11th annual Council of Fashion Designers of America/ Vogue Fashion Fund [19] | Andrew was the first and youngest British footwear designer to win. [20] [21] |
2016 | The Council of Fashion Designers of America Swarovski Award for Accessory Design [22] | |
2016 | ACE Award for Brand Launch of the Year [23] | |
2016 | Designer of the Year, The Footwear News Achievement Awards [24] |
Signed,
BlueRoses13 (
talk) 21:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
References