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Do you have a source for the list of names? [1] (eg) puts the death toll at 19. I presume that some of the seriously wounded mentioned in that report subsequently died, to make up the quoted 30, but I'd like to see a reference supporting the figures in this article. Martin 20:19, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
There have been about a dozen suicide bombings in netanya. This name imply there was one. We needa better name such as the Park Hotel bombing or Park Hotel massacre or passover massacre or Seder bombing in netnya.
Zeq 15:52, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I wonder if this is encyclopedic to have the name of the victims in the article. What if we had to list the names of the victims of all massacres ? More what information does this bring to the encyclopedia ? There is no relevant information with it... I suggest to remove this from the article and to let people click on an external link if they want the information. Alithien 11:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
GHcool, why do you think that the Holocaust is relevant to this article? I'm curious to know. Imad marie ( talk) 18:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
This edit war over what to call the area in which Tubas is located is perhaps the most idiotic edit war I have ever seen. Guys, the article is not about Samaria/West Bank. Jayjg, it was I, not MeteorMaker, who excised the offensive topynym from the sentence. It adds nothing. Don't you have better things to argue about? -- Ravpapa ( talk) 06:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
User:Pedrito removed the following material, based on his view that local school events have nothing to do with official PA position. Jamal Tarif and Jamal Odeh are local officials (Tulkarem district).:
Palestinian Media Watch claimed, however, that it glorified the " shahid" on January 21, 2003, the official PA daily newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida published a report saying "the Tulkarm Shahids Memorial Soccer Championship tournament of the Shahid Abd Al-Baset Odeh began with the participation of seven top teams, named after Shahids who gave their lives to redeem the homeland. Isam, the brother of the Shahid, will distribute the trophies."<ref>[http://www.pmw.org.il/murder.htm#murder1 PA Promoting and Glorifying Terrorism and Murder] Written and Compiled by Itamar Marcus ([[Palestinian Media Watch]]) </ref>
As can be seen from the quote, the material was apparently published in the official PA daily newspapers, based on statements made by and actions taken by PA officials. Now User:FayssalF has removed the material for an entirely different reason, i find it very weird jayjg that you ask others to use RS while you use very biased and unreliable sources!. Ignoring the inappropriateness of that personal comment, the material in question did not state the view as fact, but directly mentioned the source of the opinion. I'm having a difficult time understanding the new rationale for removing it. Perhaps FayssalF can explain. Jayjg (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
The reliability of PMW has been discussed at length before. PMW is an anti-Palestinian organization and I don't get it why some editors keep pushing for inserting material cited by the organization. Imad marie ( talk) 16:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayjg,
I assume, by your comment, that you have access to this source and have read it. Could you please provide a copy? According to WP:V, "The source should be cited clearly and precisely to enable readers to find the text that supports the article content in question."
Cheers and thanks, pedrito - talk - 02.02.2009 10:02
I think it should be attacks not massacre, the term of massacre indicate the bias of the source, which should not occur here, as Wikipedia is not bias to any side.
Why was this added as a source? Surely there's something better for a statement that is contensted? I personally don't care either way about the statement, but the source should be a bit more mainstream and reliable. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 22:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
What means "PA" in
-- Keysanger ( what?) 12:26, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Palestinian Authority. -- Keysanger ( what?) 12:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
User:Frederico1234 has in this edit removed both material about a poll, and a second source added regarding a soccer tournament.
Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 18:17, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Whether or not the author is named, whether the piece is signed or unsigned makes no difference to an editorial's reliability. An opinion is an opinion. Whether it is that of an individual, a media publication, a government, or an organisation—it remains an opinion and is not reliable for encyclopaedic facts. It says so quite clearly in our policies on identifying reliable sources. An opinion editorial is acceptable only as proof of the author's own opinion, nothing else. Nightw 14:59, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
It's a bullshit propaganda piece full of irrelevant shit inserted to inflame opinion against the Palestinians. We know it was an attack against civilians, do we really need to know a father was killed with his daughter? In an encyclopedia article? And a subsection called "Palestinian glorification of the attack"? Fucking seriously? Wikipedia is a joke when it comes to these topics. Whoever has more people editing the page gets to decide the truth. What a joke.
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Do you have a source for the list of names? [1] (eg) puts the death toll at 19. I presume that some of the seriously wounded mentioned in that report subsequently died, to make up the quoted 30, but I'd like to see a reference supporting the figures in this article. Martin 20:19, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
There have been about a dozen suicide bombings in netanya. This name imply there was one. We needa better name such as the Park Hotel bombing or Park Hotel massacre or passover massacre or Seder bombing in netnya.
Zeq 15:52, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I wonder if this is encyclopedic to have the name of the victims in the article. What if we had to list the names of the victims of all massacres ? More what information does this bring to the encyclopedia ? There is no relevant information with it... I suggest to remove this from the article and to let people click on an external link if they want the information. Alithien 11:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
GHcool, why do you think that the Holocaust is relevant to this article? I'm curious to know. Imad marie ( talk) 18:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
This edit war over what to call the area in which Tubas is located is perhaps the most idiotic edit war I have ever seen. Guys, the article is not about Samaria/West Bank. Jayjg, it was I, not MeteorMaker, who excised the offensive topynym from the sentence. It adds nothing. Don't you have better things to argue about? -- Ravpapa ( talk) 06:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
User:Pedrito removed the following material, based on his view that local school events have nothing to do with official PA position. Jamal Tarif and Jamal Odeh are local officials (Tulkarem district).:
Palestinian Media Watch claimed, however, that it glorified the " shahid" on January 21, 2003, the official PA daily newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida published a report saying "the Tulkarm Shahids Memorial Soccer Championship tournament of the Shahid Abd Al-Baset Odeh began with the participation of seven top teams, named after Shahids who gave their lives to redeem the homeland. Isam, the brother of the Shahid, will distribute the trophies."<ref>[http://www.pmw.org.il/murder.htm#murder1 PA Promoting and Glorifying Terrorism and Murder] Written and Compiled by Itamar Marcus ([[Palestinian Media Watch]]) </ref>
As can be seen from the quote, the material was apparently published in the official PA daily newspapers, based on statements made by and actions taken by PA officials. Now User:FayssalF has removed the material for an entirely different reason, i find it very weird jayjg that you ask others to use RS while you use very biased and unreliable sources!. Ignoring the inappropriateness of that personal comment, the material in question did not state the view as fact, but directly mentioned the source of the opinion. I'm having a difficult time understanding the new rationale for removing it. Perhaps FayssalF can explain. Jayjg (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
The reliability of PMW has been discussed at length before. PMW is an anti-Palestinian organization and I don't get it why some editors keep pushing for inserting material cited by the organization. Imad marie ( talk) 16:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayjg,
I assume, by your comment, that you have access to this source and have read it. Could you please provide a copy? According to WP:V, "The source should be cited clearly and precisely to enable readers to find the text that supports the article content in question."
Cheers and thanks, pedrito - talk - 02.02.2009 10:02
I think it should be attacks not massacre, the term of massacre indicate the bias of the source, which should not occur here, as Wikipedia is not bias to any side.
Why was this added as a source? Surely there's something better for a statement that is contensted? I personally don't care either way about the statement, but the source should be a bit more mainstream and reliable. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 22:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
What means "PA" in
-- Keysanger ( what?) 12:26, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Palestinian Authority. -- Keysanger ( what?) 12:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
User:Frederico1234 has in this edit removed both material about a poll, and a second source added regarding a soccer tournament.
Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 18:17, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Whether or not the author is named, whether the piece is signed or unsigned makes no difference to an editorial's reliability. An opinion is an opinion. Whether it is that of an individual, a media publication, a government, or an organisation—it remains an opinion and is not reliable for encyclopaedic facts. It says so quite clearly in our policies on identifying reliable sources. An opinion editorial is acceptable only as proof of the author's own opinion, nothing else. Nightw 14:59, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
It's a bullshit propaganda piece full of irrelevant shit inserted to inflame opinion against the Palestinians. We know it was an attack against civilians, do we really need to know a father was killed with his daughter? In an encyclopedia article? And a subsection called "Palestinian glorification of the attack"? Fucking seriously? Wikipedia is a joke when it comes to these topics. Whoever has more people editing the page gets to decide the truth. What a joke.
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Wikipedia is not a memorial to the victims of an attack. And Ill correct that at the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre as well. WP:NOTMEMORIAL is policy however. nableezy - 16:16, 12 February 2022 (UTC)