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This article was in quite disreputable state (the lede started "Basically PASI are found in East Uttar pradesh and Bihar,") so I checked backwards and had to go all the way back to 28 October 2010, when User:WALTHAM2 last edited and some 'bots did a few fixes. Literally nothing positive had been changed since then, save a few "references" (it's unclear where/whether they were applied in the article), an a few cats and foreign-wiki links I retained. Otherwise it was all just uncited, poor formatting, etc. I also did some basic copyedit and fixed a lot of overlinking. Just letting folk know this was the point where the article was tidied up, though it certainly still needs work. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 13:51, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Paswan(pasi) are indian civilian Its clear accoording to modern history primitive caste. they lived in Faizabad Barababki,Bahraich,Lucknow,Raibareli,Sita,Hardoi,Lakhimpurkhiri,Shahjahapur, Varanasi,Gazipur, Allahabad, Mirjapur,Kanpur, Jaunpur, Gorakhpur, Pratapgargh, Sultanpur, Hardoi, Deoria Fatehpur, Azamgargh,Unnao like Dalera,Kajand,Nut,Mahre,Chamar,and Pasi.
In validation its very clear in world famous book Gazetteer of the province of Oudh.VOL. 2,--till H to N, year 1877, Imperial Gazetteer of india vol. ii 1908, District Gazetteer Khiri-1979, Unnao District Gazetteer, UP District Gazetteer Volume 10101053.
It wrote on page 4 in Gazetteer Rampur 1974 k, Pasi are posterity of Ahar, Ahir, Barmar, Beria, Bhuihar, Chauhan(except rajput who is not rajput)
Dalera, Khaujar, Nut, They cleaned forest and maked useful for huamn.
In 1996, famous english scholor " Sri R.B Rasel " wrote in his book,The tribes and casr of the central princes of the India " Pasi is a dravid cast " . they ruled large part of awadh, after some Rajput they had destroyed to their dominate and they establish to their dominate.
There seems to be some issue about whether the Pasi are untouchables or not. As of yet, I have not seen evidence to contradict what is currently in this article. Reliable sources are needed to demonstrate this (a few unreliable sources have been mentioned above this section). Primefac ( talk) 16:45, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
We do not use British Raj sources such as William Crooke or Robert Vane Russell, nor do we use sources that are affiliated with Indian communities (mainly because of sanskritisation). Thus, I've reverted to the last reasonably decent version of this article. I'll check the census stuff and reinstate if it is ok. - Sitush ( talk) 06:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Shishirkc, it has been discussed multiple times on this page that whitewashing history is not acceptable in this article. Please stop. Primefac ( talk) 17:23, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
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KIndly remove the contents of pig rearing Wikipedia as this is objectionable things and heart me and my caste. who is chandra Bhan prasad to give the evidence about the pasi caste. Go to 1500 yers ago when Muslim emperor assailant on hindu and hindu king,, at that time they safe to own started untouchable pet at home. this is fact. So please delete the word "pig rearing from the Wikipedia. this circumstance has been stopped, no one like this in hindu caste system.
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Please change "untouchable communities" to "communities" because of it not applicable any more. Santoshpasi ( talk) 10:21, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
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I read this article but what i found is it's misleading. The article writer though have provided sources from Chandra Bhan Prasad and Sarah Beth books but the provided information on these books is not totally true. What i know is my family or my ancestors never reared pig. Though, Pasis were involved in animal husbandry like most of the other peasants do along with agricultural activities. As per Chandra Bhan Prasad, if some people of his village were involved in rearing pig then it doesn't mean that entire pasi community people reared pig or its a tradition, it also comes under animal husbandry. Any cast people can rear pig for a bunch of people you can't blame entire community as pig rearers.
In his article he has already stated that out of 25 pasis in his village only 5 were rearing pigs! Is it right to say it as our tradition ? It could be their circumstances in his village. And what about the other 20 people ?. Also, he mentioned that those few people who reared pigs had stopped rearing them a decade ago which simply states that this was just because of the circumstances few people of his village were rearing pigs.
here's the source: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lXyWE6KbG8oC&pg=PA161#v=snippet&q=pasi&f=false
Also as far as Sarah Beth's source is concerned, he just said Pasi; a community of pig rearers without any fact or background. If you are stating something then provide at least some fact or data which can prove it. Say for an example, there are 100 people of a particular community out of them 5 are living in my village and all of them are thief, it doesn't mean the rest 95 are also thief. How can they say that without a survey ? If you see only 5 people that doesn't mean what these 5 people are doing is right and rest 95 are stupids. When they say they need to justify their statement, even Chandra Bhan has give better details than him.
The point i want to raise here, even if a few pasis would have reared pigs in past then you can't call it a tradition and for a few people you can't blame our entire community. Even in democracy people take 51% votes for majority. When you call something as tradition then it must be followed by majority of people. If that was a tradition then why it was not followed by majority of Pasis ?. It also comes in animal husbandry, pasis also had cattle, they were also farmers why the hell these people are not mentioning that and blaming it as our tradition. Its like the only thing that we were doing in past was pig rearing and nothing else. Even Chandra Bhan's data is contradictory. He calls it tradition and then states that only 5 out of 25 in his village were pig rearers.
I request Wikipedia to remove the word tradition and change pig rearing to word animal husbandry that would be more suitable.
Today i was going through various websites and articles about pasi community i rarely find any website claiming that we were pig rearers, even in Hindi wikipedia, writers haven't mentioned any such thing. Its very hurtful for me and my community people when we see such thing on Wikipedia, Pasis were involved in various activities like farming, animal husbandry, creating war equipment and other tools etc. Wikipedia has just given us a tag of pig rearers in the society. I seriously don't appreciate it ! May be it's not a problem in other countries but in our country its a big problem. Living with such a tag is like a hell which wikipedia has given to us. I will ask our community members to protest against this misinformation.
I don't know with what mindset these book writers specially Sarah Beth had called us pig rearers where Chandra Bhan Prasad's book itself state that a few people of his village reared pig. Then how it could be a tradition ?
The thing that i would like to advice the writer on Wikipedia that he/she would have better gone through other facts before claiming the entire community as pig rearer.
He (Chandra Bhan Prasad) can't blame each and every Pasi caste people that they had this tradition of rearing pigs. Which is totally false and i seriously condemn it.
here is wikipedia hindi link about our community which is totally different from this: https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%80
Other sources were also presented by the previous editor but the writer/reviewer just discarded them. May i know why he is 100% sure about one source that is Sarah Beth's book ?. He is simply ignoring other facts.
The last editor did not accept the sources provided by another editor that were of British writers(Who i believe had scientific thinking) but he is ready to accept the article of Chandra Bhan Prasad who even mentioned that we are born from the sweat of a Hindu God Parshuram, which is totally rubbish. Our constitution says us to have logical and scientific thinking. He is interviewing an illiterate person of our society. It seriously hurts us when a website like Wikipedia doesn't perform a better research before publishing such article.
Its like an abuse to our society. We were the farmers and also ruled in some areas of India. I don't know why people like Sarah Beth and Chandra Bhan Prasad are defaming our caste which is already a schedule cast. This creates a negative image of our community in India. I want Wikipedia people to please review my request and edit this article. Because of your article we are facing insult in the society. I don't want to change history, neither i am against it. But, better do some research before publishing any such article, which can make life worse for some people. We already face caste system and then an article comes with poor or few sources and defames us like pig rearers. I am very disappointed to see this article. Again, i would request Wikipedia editors to edit this article. At least the word tradition and pig rearing to animal husbandry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warrior2425 ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
I again inform you that please change the status about pasi community, they are not untouchable in the indian society. I also see that your information about pasi community does not matching with Wikipedia english version to hindi version. Why? The hindi version shows some correct information about pasi community. And lastly i think you should get a survey in their society to get original status about pasi community. Please notice my view. Thank you! Abhiwiki1234 ( talk) 10:18, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Few parts of this article are wrong. I have already mentioned most things in my previous post. You can't say a community 'a caste of pig rearers' just because a person said it without giving any facts. This article lacks proper facts and that is why people are reacting on it from the date it is published.
This article has not faced much backlash just because still our community is growing in terms of education. Nobody is trying to ignore facts we are just asking to correct the things, as i already said in my previous post later or sooner its gonna change as more and more people of my community will get educated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warrior2425 ( talk • contribs) 09:47, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
आपने पासी समाज को कुछ हद तक सही कुछ हद तक गलत दिखया है इसे कृपया सुधारे। Vibhor pasi ( talk) 17:15, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalit
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/618508/untouchable
John Webster (1999). Untouchable, Dalits in Modern India (Ed: S. M. Michael). pp. 11–19. ISBN 978-1555876975. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TimesGerman ( talk • contribs) 18:54, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Untouchable, Dalits in Modern India
ये सही नही आप किसी भी समाज के बारे में इस तरीके से पेश नही कर सकते ,और ref कितना दूं मैं आपको ,अपना mail दिजीये मैं आपको avidence देता हूँ
धन्यवाद Vibhor pasi ( talk) 16:39, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Please this is Very bad information about Pasi community so update new information
Adolf bijili ( talk) 18:06, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Pls open lock Cgange ,bldy typr words about pasi cominuty ok ,many upar caste now untochable Bat you not mentioned
I repeat open lock Update information
My request for you ,who anyone command this page Adolf bijili ( talk) 02:48, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I hope r u do this Adolf bijili ( talk) 02:58, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Pasi society has been shown in a very dirty manner, rightly correct it or else I will do the case Wikipedia Adolf bijili ( talk) 03:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Ok u given me some day ,update more infirmation Adolf bijili ( talk) 03:20, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I am belong pasi comiunty This is not good, the pasi society has been told very wrongly, which is not us, U With this our society is unhappy, it has not been reformed at the earliest, this is damaging the image and mental harassment. So pls i requst you Change this bldy type word , U have neeed refrence or source i will provide you Adolf bijili ( talk) 04:47, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
I m provide you avidence Why are you mention bldy type word You dont no pasi hiatory ,, Y are you mot mention untouchble word other comiunty like chamar ,bhar, khatik ,why are you Menton only Pasi community , You not father wikipidia ok
How can i contect with you
Wats your gmail id Adolf bijili ( talk) 02:58, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
DEAR Sir,
Above your Wikipedia Page Pasi Caste related using abuse word & Write it such likes untouchable. You have written about in Pasi society is very negative & Pasi community opposes it. If you Want about Pasi community so read Audh gazetteer but don't spread this types rumour in Pasi community is untouchable. Many Pasi King & freedom Fighter participating in independent of India. Adolf bijili is representative in our community so its humble request Allow writes with the true fact in Pasi caste & other Wise I have to Take action in Wikipedia Page.
Many Books Write-In about Pasi Coummnity so allow writing in Adolf bijili in Pasi Caste. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neerajsaroj90 ( talk • contribs) 08:03, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Pasi not unouchble this bldy indian politcs Pasi community never accepted,
Why are you not mention untouchble chamar ,mahar etc
See | url= [1] Adolf bijili ( talk) 03:13, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
pls dont mension these type of word because now no any caste who are untouchable in India so pls edit it. and wright good and right word and senten Adolf bijili ( talk) 06:37, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
I am providing you the evidence, so why are not you correcting your words on wikipidiya
Adolf bijili ( talk) 08:48, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
The added information is wrong with regards to Pasi community. There is a long history behind the Pasi's who were known as warriors and fighting forces after intervention of Britishers were brutally harrassed and while caste formation they were added in the 54th list of SC in the state of Maharashtra. Requesting you to delete dalit word and wrong information added for Pasi community Neetu Saroj ( talk) 12:55, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
YOU ARE GIVING WRONG INFORMATION SO PLEASE CHANGE THIS WIKIPEDIA Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 16:47, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
According to a Journey through the Kingdom of Oudh (1849-1850) of Sleeman's Diary it was found that there are almost all the Kings of Oudh, or 3000,000 to 4000 thousand Paso's army soldiers, of which Barabanki Ramnagar Dhimra King Gurbaksh Singh, Raja Gangabax Rawat, Sitapur, King of Nahab Ali of Mahmudabad, who was full of arrogant soldiers in the army, was the specialty of his that it was loyal to his king and never betrayed Were, were sure of their tongue. Awadh Paso has contributed a lot in the fight for the country's independence, so all the kings and There was a Passover army near Talukars but there was also the Pulsi Paltan in the battles of Nawab Wazid Ali Shah, which had a different place, the existence of the Pasi Paltan came out openly, when Pasi Paltan came to the Begum Hazrat Palace in the siege of Lucknow. Was safely transported to Nepal. Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 03:03, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Pasi combing used to be a warrior, after the end of the Rajapat, these people started to give their services in the Indian Army, due to their fighting and taking control of the palace, these people considered themselves Kshatriya as their counterpart. At the time of the 16th and 17th century, the Pasi caste, which was a fighter's army, most of the king of Oudh were stationed on the military posts of the princely states, and whenever any king of any king had to make the coup, then only on these paramilitary The dependents used to live, they were crazy bowlers, and used to shoot accurately from the distance of 100 yards. Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 02:54, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Classification of the castes has been described under the Nagvanshi branch, Dr. Bhimrao Ambedkar has also told the settled castes to be the Nagvanshi branch. According to the history of Nagak ruler and craftsman movement of the North, which has been edited by Dr. Naval Viyogi, the children of Padmavati-Bharashiva (Takshak Tuka) were the children of the Raj family, after which they lost their palace, Pasi Rajpasi is the chief of the party.The book, Dr. Ram Dayal Verma Barshiv dynasty name Nagesvanshi Bharshiv describes the caste in which, later in the Gupta Empire, it is punishable with rape and dacoity, and during the middle period, it is called Pasi. Origin of Passive Caste Large scholars have developed the passersby from Nagvanshi Bharshiva's Feldsar (Takhansh), Pasi Nagvanshi is the Chhatri, who is the worshiper of Shiva
Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 02:50, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
There are many possible roots named Pasi; One is the Sanskrit word "Pashika" meaning the loop meaning "a trapper", and the Hindi form of paasi is elusive, in Hindi meaning "pa" (grip) and 'asi' (a sword) from the Hindi words Pasi, which means handing the sword in his hand,a warrior. Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 02:42, 22 May 2019 (UTC) Pasi is primarily a caste of India, the caste is described as a character, a primitive race or a race, [1] Rajpasi is a branch of the Pasi caste, which was a ruler in Awadh. [2] He also had Pasi Paltan, which was of great importance in 1857 ok. Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 02:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Dear sir,
Pasi (Cast) is not untouchable Like Chamar (Cast).. Dalit Writer Chandra Bhan Prasad who had supplied the information, he himself from untouchable (the Chamar Cast) category ... How can you people Address anyone untouchable (cast), on the basis of information supplied by Very much lower cast the Untouchable Chamar cast..
Request you to please remove the word Untouchable from this page....
We people are continuesly requesting to update correct information...
This time if you fail to remove the word untouchable or any other discriminatory word.. We will take leagal action for sure... Rrshesh ( talk) 10:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Indian editors are very much cast biased. They are very rude and less knowing the socity.
I want to know that on what basis the Wikipedia page Declaired the "Pasi" (Cast) as untouchables.. Please instruct to your volunteer in India to show the authentic proof.
The word "Untouchable/Dalit" is banned by Indian government. Know one is permitted to used these word against any people in India.
Please remove the word "Untouchable" From the Article "Pasi" (Cast) from your wikipedia. Please use Marshal cast instead.
You are requested to please update the article with correct word. We have tried many times but some time they correct the description but again some editor undo the changes.
Pasi cast is not Untouchable. Pasi is the warrior class in Indian cast System.
As name suggest "Pasi" Means "Sword holder" in the palm.
"Pasi" name is derived from Sanskrit Language as below--
पासी = प + असि
प = पंजा = Palm
असि = तलवार = Sword
Your are requested to please update the correct word as warrior class / Marshal cast.
In India "Pasi" cast people can be fall pray under the castieat people of other states of India. Because every people search the cast of the people on Wikipedia page in India.
You are requested to please Correct the information or delete the article.
Being a Pasi cast person I am very much disturbed about the article.
You can earn more information from website www.pasi.in Rrshesh ( talk) 11:28, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Cahnge information about pasi caste Adolf bijili ( talk) 13:07, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
The information given is wrong and politically inspired Allahabadinup ( talk) 06:18, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
The given information about the occupation of Pasi community is wrong. Please don't spread wrong information. Their occupation is extracting juice from toddy palm tree. Himanshu150295 ( talk) 20:58, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I would like to point out that untouchability is been removed from the country and anyone promoting it or associating anyone as untouchables creates a non bailable penal offence. Since you have used the word untouchable for this particular caste and all Dalits in general (though they may have been treated as untouchables at one time in the history) goes against the law of India and the Constitution.
Also, I would not like to debate over the folklore or the made up history of the Pasi Community, all I want to say is that the caste was not included as a Schedule Caste by the original list made by the British in 1920s, rather this particular community was given the status of a Criminal Tribe, along with Jats, Gujars, Meena and other caste group.
Anyway, I do not want to brush your knowledge over any history because it is of no use now. What matters is the present and the future. Having a prejudice and sense of dejection for a particular community will do no good in nation building hence, using derogatory terms like untouchables shows nothing but your I'll conceived haterd for Dalit, which should not be there.
Hence I request you to make necessary changes or else a better page can anytime be created with more citations. I would be reporting the usage of the derogatory word with the Wikipedia and will think of making formal complaints too.
Regards Shanky1410 ( talk) 19:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
See, the point is you should not agree with any of the made up history, but something that is eradicated from the country should not be used anymore. Everyone in India faced untouchability, even the Brahmins, Rajputs, Kayasthas or the other backward caste communities, in the hands of the Britishers, who considered themselves to be higher than the Indian race. They did not allow any Indian to enter their dwellings, seperate room and compartment in the trains for Indians irrespective of their castes, Indians were not allowed to take any officer grade post etc. So much so that they would not touch Indians and would write slogans like Indians and dogs not allowed. This continued for more than 200 years. Even Mahatma Gandhi was treated as an untouchable and thrown out of the train.
I don't know who you are, you might be working with the IT cell or some organisation might have outsourced this task to you to make sure that these things exist. Also, reading your write ups I can assure you that you're not too educated and wise, you must be based out of India and could be working with a proxy to edit and demean people if you can and you're an Indian ofcourse.
Its upto you to not edit this and make sure the country is still the same as it were 1000 of years ago. Few will reap the benifits out of it and become super rich and you will stay the same editing these things and becoming happy in your own head by feeling superior or the others.
With regard to law and you not coming to India, it is immaterial. The fight against untouchability has been long and arduous. Every Indian faced it irrespective of their castes because of the ignorance of few like you. The fight still go on. A formal complaint read with Article 17 of the constitution, IPC and Information Technology Act shall be filed. IP address shall be traced. Shanky1410 ( talk) 10:10, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
In Wikipedia, when we read about our Pasi society that our profession was to rearing a pigs, this false information works to mentally torture us and our entire society. The history of North India with evidence shows how many brave kings have been in the Pasi caste who have ruled all over North India for many years and after the end of the state text, the main profession of the Pasi caste is to fight as a soldier in war. The history of North India is a witness to the fact that the Pasi caste is a marshal caste. I request you not to make mental exploitation of the Pasi society, but by providing the wrong information about the Pasi caste profession, through the history of the Pasi kings of North India, there is more evidence that the main profession of the Pasi caste is pigs Not to rearing but to fight as a general and soldier in many wars in INDIA. I am attached some evidence related to this. Refrence:- Narayan, Badri (February 2004). "Inventing caste history: Dalit mobilisation and nationalist past". Contributions to Indian Sociology. 38 (1–2): 199. doi:10.1177/006996670403800108. ISSN 0069-9667 Vishu4466verma ( talk) 08:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Pasi caste doesn't belong to untouchable , so don't write this word in wiki , pasi is successor of royal family like bijli pasi , lakhan pasi , madari pasi etc Ajeet -rawat1 ( talk) 07:14, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Pasi not a untachable and not a dalit he is royal king caste Ranjit paswan ( talk) 03:18, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
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Pasi not a dalit community Ranjit paswan ( talk) 03:06, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
And not a untachable community pasi caste people protest your Wikipedia article so please change (remove) dalit or untachable community if you not edit this so protest wekipedia website 🙏🕉️ Ranjit paswan ( talk) 03:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
So please remove this bad word okk
Ranjit paswan ( talk) 03:11, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
1. There are warriors icons such as Uda Devi, Maharaja Lakhan Pasi his name is written in the stone as "Maharaja" meaning King, Maharaja Bijli Pasi(King Lightning) was the leader of an extensive 12th century kingdom ruled in Awadh region. He is supposed to have consolidated his position and regned over large tracts of land in the medieval period. He was contemporary of Prithviraj Chauhan and is credited with founding Bijnor(Small town near Lucknow. He constructed twelve forts which still remain in Lucknow [1]
Also from other source Indicating pasi Ruler existed, taken directly from source. During the course of field investigation among the Pasi they claimed a glorious past. They proudly talked of the princely States and territories ruled by them, especially in Avadh region. The Raj Pasi section particularly claimed its descent from the rulers. As mentioned earlier. the etymological significance of the term 'Raj' is derived from 'royal' or 'lineage from kings~. The Pasi claimed that at one time they held 22 chieftainshipS in Avadh alone. In support of their claim they repoted certain cities and towns which were named after certain Pasi rulers. In this connection. by way of illustration, they mentioned that Lucknow city was named after Raja Lakhan, Malihabad after Raja Mullaha. Satrik after Satan, Bijnor after Bijin and Nagram after Nalgann _. all Pasi rulers. The claim of the Pasi regarding their pristine glory is supported by some earlier scholars. such as Elliot. Crooke and Russel. From the above account it would appear that although they might have exaggerated their claim of lordships in certain areas, their association with certain other Rajput kings or chiefs appears to suggest that in the past the Pasi did rule· some territories, especially in Avadhregion of Uttar Pradesh. As mentioned elsewhere, they were also associated with militia and continued their military traditions in theannies until recently. Besides. they also appear to have played an important role in the Indian revolt against the British in 1857 as they claim to have rescued Begum Hazrat Mahal of Avadh from the Britishers. " [2].
A study on quote from the source-"Agarwal (Eastern Anthropologist, Vol. XV. No.2, 1962; 161-164) found the Pasi and the Chamar of Hardai (U.P.) very similar in their skin colour, stature and general built-up. But On the basis of blood tests conducted by him he observed that serologically they are quite different from Chamar and, on the other hand, closer to the other Denotified Tribes of the area, such as the Bhat and Karwal. " [3]
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Subham1337 ( talk • contribs) 16:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Change "The Pasi is a Dalit (untouchable) community of India." to "The Pasi community belongs to Scheduled Caste". To be specific. [4] Apart from this the History section is very vague just barely scratch the surface at least add more content. p.s removed all the opinions and only information with sources. Subham1337 ( talk) 22:37, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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I m a resident of bihar and i could boldly say that pasi has traditionally been involved in toddy making not pig rearing which is an occupation of [dom community].Let me find other sources the article need little changes.Am i allowed? @ Primefac: Heba Aisha ( talk) 00:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
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Pasi Caste is a community mostly found in North India. Pasi refers to traditionally occupation is toddy tapping.[3] The Pasi are divided into Gujjar, Kaithwas, and Boria.[4] In the state of Andhra Pradesh,Telangana they have OBC status.[5][6] They live in the northern Indian states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. Pasi are ex-untouchable caste of India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pra90 ( talk • contribs) 20:28, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Dalit word should be rectified as it's offensive and obliterates whereas this has been criticised and forbidden [1] to use as per the law of the land. Also, referring to Pasi to Dalit will widen the community which may lead to the spread of misinformation as mentioned by many authors. Dalit word cover more than 200 castes in India and has different occupation and profession whereas primarily focusing upon caste would help the article to provide relevant information rather than involving the Dalit community. — Sanskari Hangout 04:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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How can you put untouchable word...mention ex-untouchable that to in somewhere in middle..This wiki page seems to be written in hatred. Pra90 ( talk) 15:21, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Please mention ex-untouchable instead of untouchable Pra90 ( talk) 15:22, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Very bad..... remove untouchable Devendra RajPasi ( talk) 06:18, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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I will make this article to better than with releable sources Vijay Parshuram ( talk) 09:44, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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This article need more information please grant me permission Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 19:56, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
In Bihar, the Pasi are also known as the Chaudhary. The community were traditionally connected with toddy tapping. They are found throughout Bihar, and speak the Magadhi dialect of Hindi. They have four sub-divisions, namely the Tirsulia, Gaiduha, Kamani and Byadha. In addition to toddy tapping, the community now are also involved in a number of activities such as petty business. [1] Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 17:02, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
write the new section topic Occupation The Pasi Have Lack Occupations like Toody Taping, Pig rearing, business so please Write the new section give more information to the The Pasi Caste Pasi (caste) ( talk) 12:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
The People of India, compiled by the Anthropological Survey of India, describes them as a community of small peasant farmers, many of whom have started to migrate to cities, and are now engaged in businesses, private and government service and industrial labour. [2] Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 17:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
In Bihar, the Pasi are also known as the Chaudhary. The community were traditionally connected with toddy tapping. They are found throughout Bihar, and speak the Magadhi dialect of Hindi. They have four sub-divisions, namely the Tirsulia, Gaiduha, Kamani and Byadha. In addition to toddy tapping, the community now are also involved in a number of activities such as petty business. [1] Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 17:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
The People of India, compiled by the Anthropological Survey of India, describes them as a community of small peasant farmers, many of whom have started to migrate to cities, and are now engaged in businesses, private and government service and industrial labour. [3] Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 17:20, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Chandra Bhan Prasad, a journalist and adviser to dalit organisations, recalls how those who continued pig-rearing were ill-treated by socio-political activists of their community, who blamed the occupation in large part for their untouchable status "and not the Caste Order or the systems of Brahmanism". Threats of ostracism would be issued and, at least in his village, the tradition of pig-rearing eventually stopped. [4] Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 17:22, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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The name Pasi ( Hindi: पासी) is composed of two Hindi words Pa ( grip) and asi ( sword), implying one who possesses a sword in his hand, in other words, a soldier. [1] Anthony 250ka ( talk) 08:55, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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In Bihar, the Pasi are also known as the Chaudhary. The community were traditionally connected with toddy tapping. They are found throughout Bihar, and speak the Magadhi dialect of Hindi. They have four sub-divisions, namely the Tirsulia, Gaiduha, Kamani and Byadha. In addition to toddy tapping, the community now are also involved in a number of activities such as petty business. [1]
The People of India, compiled by the Anthropological Survey of India, describes them as a community of small peasant farmers, many of whom have started to migrate to cities, and are now engaged in businesses, private and government service and industrial labour. [2]
Chandra Bhan Prasad, a journalist and adviser to dalit organisations, recalls how those who continued pig-rearing were ill-treated by socio-political activists of their community, who blamed the occupation in large part for their untouchable status "and not the Caste Order or the systems of Brahmanism". Threats of ostracism would be issued and, at least in his village, the tradition of pig-rearing eventually stopped. [3] Anthony 250ka ( talk) 04:16, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
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In Bihar, the Pasi are also known as the Chaudhary. The community were traditionally connected with toddy tapping. They are found throughout Bihar, and speak the Magadhi dialect of Hindi. They have four sub-divisions, namely the Tirsulia, Gaiduha, Kamani and Byadha. In addition to toddy tapping, the community now are also involved in a number of activities such as petty business. [1]
Chandra Bhan Prasad, a journalist and adviser to dalit organisations, recalls how those who continued pig-rearing were ill-treated by socio-political activists of their community, who blamed the occupation in large part for their untouchable status "and not the Caste Order or the systems of Brahmanism". Threats of ostracism would be issued and, at least in his village, the tradition of pig-rearing eventually stopped. [2] Anthony 250ka ( talk) 05:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC) Anthony 250ka ( talk) 11:45, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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Pasi (caste) was Registered in Schedule caste with The Name Pasi, Tarmali So please write Full name Jonny8920 ( talk) 05:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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The Pasi of Maharashtra are a composite of subgroups such as Raj Pasi , Kaithwar Pasi , Baurasi Pasi , Gujar Pasi , Aratkh Pasi and Mangta or Pas Mangta . They are immigrants from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar . Jonny8920 ( talk) 12:58, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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In Bihar, the Pasi are also known as the Chaudhary. The community were traditionally connected with toddy tapping. They are found throughout Bihar, and speak the Magadhi dialect of Hindi. They have four sub-divisions, namely the Tirsulia, Gaiduha, Kamani and Byadha. In addition to toddy tapping, the community now are also involved in a number of activities such as petty business. [1]
The People of India, compiled by the Anthropological Survey of India, describes them as a community of small peasant farmers, many of whom have started to migrate to cities, and are now engaged in businesses, private and government service and industrial labour. [2]
Chandra Bhan Prasad, a journalist and adviser to dalit organisations, recalls how those who continued pig-rearing were ill-treated by socio-political activists of their community, who blamed the occupation in large part for their untouchable status "and not the Caste Order or the systems of Brahmanism". Threats of ostracism would be issued and, at least in his village, the tradition of pig-rearing eventually stopped. [3] Anthony 250ka ( talk) 13:55, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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The Pasi claim their origin from a Vedic sage Bhrigu , the founder of the Bhargavas in which Jamadagni and Parshuram was born . The community also trace their origin to Parshuram. [1] Anthony 250ka ( talk) 02:47, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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Please write List of Pasis to the Notable People section. This is a list of notable people of the Pasi community. Rp7122002 ( talk) 16:24, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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Please write the name in the notable people section. They are notable People's of the Pasi community.
* Kalpana Saroj is a female Indian entrepreneur and a Tedx speaker. [2] She is the Chairperson of Kamani Tubes in Mumbai, India.
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User is a blocked sock, but it's not an unreasonable request so I personally won't be removing it (that being said I'm also not going to enact it). Primefac ( talk) 14:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- closing as not done, since none of the references provided support that the concerned personalities belong to Pasi Community. Apart from the user being blocked as Primefac mentioned, the request fails to comply verifiability policy. Chirota ( talk) 00:52, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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I’m a Indian and my surname is Passi, but I’m not scheduled caste at all. Stop spreading false information. Who told you that Passi’s are untouchable??? 2402:3A80:1361:5148:E44D:786:98DC:47BD ( talk) 20:21, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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The name Pasi ( Hindi: पासी) is composed of two words Pa ( grip) and asi ( sword), implying thereby one who hold a sword in his hand or in other words a soldier. [1] Another etymology is that the name comes from the Sanskrit pashika, "one who uses a noose." The Pasi are said to have used nooses for climbing trees. [2]
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Is this good enough or is there some WP:FALSEBALANCE going on? Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 14:35, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
I am requesting to remove the word untouchables and Dalits from this page. The Pasi community is a governing community in history, Your page has used words like untouchables and Dalits for the Pasi community, which should be removed immediately. People trust your page, so by reading this for this community, people incite inferiority complex towards this community, Therefore, the Director is requested to remove the word untouchables and Dalits from this page so that social harmony can be maintained and casteism is not encouraged, Otherwise we will be binding on the court to resort.
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The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is A community of India. Pasi refers to tapping toddy, a traditional occupation of the Pasi community. [1] The Pasi are divided into Gujjar, Kaithwas, and Boria. [2] They are classified as an Other Backward Class in Andhra Pradesh and Telangana. [3] [4] They live in the northern Indian states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. According to William Crooke, the word Pashi derives from the Sanskrit word Pashika, a noose used by Pasis to climb and tap toddy, a drink obtained from palm tree. The tapping of toddy is the original occupation of the Pasi community. However, just like other aspirational caste groups of India, Pasis have a myth of origin. They claim that they originate from the sweat of Parshuram, an incarnation of Vishnu. They claim support for this in the word sweat being derived from the Hindi word Pasina and it further paves the way for their claim of " Kshatriyatva". [1] The Pasi live mainly in the northern Indian states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh, were their traditional occupation was that of rearing pigs. [5] The Pasis of most of the north Indian states have been classified as Scheduled Castes by the Government of India. [1] In the 2001 Indian census, the Pasi were recorded as being second-largest Dalit group in Uttar Pradesh. At the time, they constituted 16 per cent of the population of the state and mostly inhabited the Awadh region. [6] The 2011 Census of India for the state recorded their population as 6,522,166. This figure includes the Tarmali. [7] Ramnarayan Rawat states that the role of the Pasi an communities in the Kisan Sabha movement has been understated by earlier historians. He writes that earlier scholarship held Pasi involvement to be minimal, late-arriving, and more inclined towards criminality and rioting than political activism. [8] He notes that the involvement of Pasi and Chamars was significant from the outset. According to him, the Pasi, being land owners, had the same concerns as other Savarna groups, rather than being the 'alienated' pig-rearers they had sometimes been characterised as. [8] Chandra Bhan Prasad, a political commentator, has said that those who continued pig-rearing were ill-treated by socio-political activists, who blamed the occupation in large part for their status rather than the Brahminism. [9] The Pasi have in recent times engaged in invention of tradition. Badri Narayan, a social historian and cultural anthropologist, says thatOf late, when? Hindu Nationalists ( Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and affiliates) have been trying to appropriate different folk-heroes of the Pasi caste as Hindu icons to mobilize the electoral prospects of the Bharatiya Janata Party. [11] Hindu nationalists have supported claims that there was a Pasi kingdom that ruled what is now Uttar Pradesh and Bihar in the 11th and 12th century. The rulers of this claimed state include Bijli Pasi. [12]
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The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is a Dalit community of India. 2401:4900:55A3:3138:FBE5:8AF1:21EE:920E ( talk) 19:05, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hey do you thing all pasi are Dalit? They need help from government they all want reservation ?
Many people from pasi cast is highly educated and working in Well known places. Many are doctors, engineers, CTOs etc. Many of them achieve success with any reservations. But when they said they belong to sc aur dalit community. They face many discrimination people search about there cast and category and make them feel like you are low , untouchables etc. This word should not written anywhere for a specific caste. This one also consider as an discrimination under the government policy. And here is below stories of discrimination.
[1] 2401:4900:55A2:214D:D353:24A9:BC04:BC0 ( talk) 18:31, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
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The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is a Hindu community of India.
Hey do you thing all pasi are Dalit? They need help from government they all want reservation ?
Many people from pasi cast is highly educated and working in Well known places. Many are doctors, engineers, CTOs etc. Many of them achieve success with any reservations. But when they said they belong to sc aur dalit community. They face many discrimination people search about there cast and category and make them feel like you are low , untouchables etc. This word should not written anywhere for a specific caste. This one also consider as an discrimination under the government policy. And here is below stories of discrimination.
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pasi's never reared pigs. they were strictly toddy tappers 116.75.236.143 ( talk) 19:05, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
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pasi's were traditionally toddy tappers only. they never reared pigs. this is derogatory. please remove this 116.75.236.143 ( talk) 19:01, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Pasi ancestors were king, they are not untouchable, please remove these word untouchable, if u want proof, then read book named gazetteer of india 2405:204:2189:A02A:5039:795B:7F38:611A ( talk) 02:26, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
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Remove the word 'Dalit' and 'Untouchable' from this article, It's not a way to treat a living person nor legal to call someone Dalit or Untouchable. According to Article 341 of Indian Constitution Using word 'Dalit' for the members belonging to Schedule Castes and Schedule Tribes as the same does not find mentioned in the Constitution of India or any statute. Refer the document and specially read the points 2 and 3. Also the Hon'ble High Court of Madhya Pradesh, Gwalior Bench in its order dated 15.01.2018 passed in W.P. No. 20420 of 2017 (PIL)-Dr. Mohanlal Mahor Vs Union of India & Ors.
Remove those words ASAP and don't try to discriminate Pasi's by using such words. StoryWriter2411 ( talk) 19:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) did you even read this document? what reliable source you want other than a NIC pdf, It is signed by Arvind Kumar (Director SCD). Related article, PIL details, High court bench detail all are also mentioned there. What else you're looking for?
Visit following links as well:
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/madhya-pradesh-hc-asks-centre-state-not-to-use-dalit-in-official-communications/story-1cQDQ7GIc2r6I9h3CIMI5O.html https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/dalit-word-is-unconstitutional-scheduled-caste-commission/articleshow/2710993.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst&from=mdr https://indianexpress.com/article/india/avoid-name-dalit-in-all-official-transactions-karnataka-govt-6442993/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by StoryWriter2411 ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is a community of India. [1] 2409:4043:196:91D1:D49A:661D:3948:DC7A ( talk) 20:35, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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change Dalits and untouchable world to hindu caste.
In Many state in India take action against use of this word of any person or any community. 2409:4043:4D91:DE8B:B18A:1398:DB2C:3FAD ( talk) 08:16, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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talk) 08:39, 26 December 2021 (UTC)Pasi is a 'caste' living in 'North-India'. These people are counted in the 'Vimukt' caste and in some states they have been kept under the 'Scheduled Caste'.[1] The meaning of the Pasi was the sword-bearer. Have been doing different work in different states.[2]. Bhar Pasi are divided into Gujar Pasi, Kaithvas and Boria. [3] They have OBC status in the state of Andhra Pradesh, Telangana. [4] [5] They live in the North Indian states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh Arunachal Pradesh.
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Pasi is from the Shava culture sect of Sanatan Dharma. It is a nagvanshi Kshatriya caste.It is known by different names in different states. Any of their work.These Bhar Pasi are known by the names of Gurjar, Pasi, Pasi, Kaithvas, pasi, pasi, etc.It comes under Schedule Cast in Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh and General Category in Assam Kerala.
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Pasi is a king of Awadh.It has been the ruling caste of North India, the evidence of which we get in the Awadh Gazetteer Year.Pasi are a caste community of one found in India. It is mainly found in North India. Bihar Uttar Pradesh Madhya Pradesh It comes in Schedule Cast and Andhra Pradesh Arunachal Pradesh Telangana in OBCItalic text Caste and Kerala in General Category or as per Constitution of India.It is believed to follow the sect of Sanatan Dharma.Or does it fall in the Kshatriya caste according to the Hindu Varna?They are mainly known as Bhar Pasi Gurjar, Pasi Pasi Raj Pasi Kaithwas Pasi Bavaria Pasi. सुदेश पासी ( talk) 18:18, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
I want to say that pasi is in historical great fighter and there kingdom so i requset to government remove from sc caste keep gernal become they want this type of thing they are biscally not for our prectepation and we want our need By Ritesh kumar To government of up and all india 47.9.85.53 ( talk) 15:07, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
In Many state in India take action against use of this word of any person or any community.
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change untouchable to hindu caste. 2409:4043:2197:85E6:58C9:5E56:25B9:54D5 ( talk) 13:22, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
This Wikipedia page is about Indian caste. All the details written in this page show the information about Indian Pasi caste. And in India the word untouchable is banned to be used to represent any caste or person. This page contains the word untouchable for this caste which comes under government action. Please remove immediately.
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change Dalit and untouchable to hindu caste. 2409:4043:2197:85E6:957:1148:9294:45A7 ( talk) 12:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
untouchable word is come under discrimation if this word used for any person or any community.
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change untouchable to hindu caste. BrownWritter ( talk) 18:09, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
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Change untouchable to hindi caste. 2409:4043:2184:16FB:D7D0:EBEE:BC5C:E986 ( talk) 18:33, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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talk) 18:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is a Dalit community of India.[1][2] Pasi refers to tapping toddy, a traditional occupation of the Pasi community.[3] The Pasi are divided into Gujjar, Kaithwas, and Boria.[4] They are classified as an Other Backward Class in Andhra Pradesh and Telangana.[5][6] They live in the northern Indian states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4064:4E88:E403:A4EB:60C0:5F7:67EE ( talk) 08:16, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Pasi enjoys the status of Scheduled Caste in the schedule cast, it is absolutely wrong to call it Dalit because Dalit is an unconstitutional word which is absolutely wrong. Pasi has the status of OBC general in many states, I hope you change this article. Once you get the information you will improve Wikipedia Thanks Pasi well-wisher ( talk) 09:39, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Passi and pasi are different Passi is khatri clan and belongs to punjabi community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.222.12 ( talk) 04:00, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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Dear there is a written a untouchables community it's a totally wrong , coz of it's a bramin warrior cast not a untouchables community's , so correction it there and it's a power full and dada parsurams the great indian loards vanshaj so ols remove the dalit and untouchables community from there and don't publish faq information , thanks Pradeep211198 ( talk) 18:20, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
So pls update in a proper information desk and provide a proper knowledge, pasi is not a untouchables community it's a great warrior cast . Pradeep211198 ( talk) 18:21, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
What type of reliable sources you want? Text me i will give you all the proofs .., Go to youtube and just simply write pasi caste you will gonna get your answer .., Pasi caste is warrior caste who ruled between 9th century to 13th century in awadh area in india .,, even our prime minister is providing the information of pasi maharajas in his speeches.., just go to youtube you will find everything.., Its my humble request to you to please remove dalit(untouchable) .,, Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 19:50, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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Pasi caste is not an untouchable caste so please remove the word untouchable., Pasi caste is a kshatriya varna caste., you can find all the proofs on youtube and other articles written on google there were many maharajas was in pasi caste like suheldev, maharaja lakhan pasi, maharaja bijli pasi ., Pasi caste never ever treated as dalits(untouchable) Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 19:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
What type of sources you want tell me i will give you??? Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 20:02, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Tell me ????? Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 20:03, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
I will you all the proofs Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 20:03, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
I will give you all the proofs Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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Pasi was never been an untouchable or dalit so please remove the word dalit and untouchable. Pasi caste is a warrior caste khastriya, varna. There were thousands of pasi king has ruled awadh, which is now uttar pradesh.
Read the book pasi samaj darpan by ramprakash saroj, pasi samrajya by rk choudhary, bikhra rajwans by ram dayal verma. 223.226.166.60 ( talk) 03:03, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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The information must be changed especially the words dalits(untouchables) There are many misinformation in this article. The pasi caste was not always been a lower caste. Our ancestors and Elders having the proof of our caste , our older elders tells us the stories and folks about the many kings and their glorious history belonging to pasi castes. There are many evidences on media and YouTube about Pasi. A caste having many kings and soliders in a particular area, there descendants should never be termed as dalit or lower caste. Rawat643 ( talk) 06:11, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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PASI is community which ruled in vast area of what is now uttar pradesh these are nagvanshi khatriya of bharshiv kull they had a big role in 1857 revolution and these and these pasis are war like being and in 12 century one the raja bijli pasi who knows for his 12 forts in oudh region maharaja bijli pasi is known as to defeated king of kannauj raja jaichand who want the soil of oudh these pasi are mainy found in ganjhar maidan or iron palne of ganjhar
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Passi caste is not termed as Dalit or untouchable. Passi term is used for “Lala” in Punjab. That means a wealthy person or a landlord.
There’s nothing to do with untouchable or thing. Please write the articles upon doing research. This may lead to Public offence.
Either edit the article with proper knowledge or remove it completely.
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This caste was divided in gujjars Obc in Telangana and andrapradesh 2409:4055:586:F3F6:0:0:139C:70A4 ( talk) 09:04, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Earlier, their rule used to rule in the entire Awadh area, there were small and big kings, and even today this area is a Pasi-dominated area. But after independence, their condition was not that good, so they were included in the SC caste in the economic survey. JDHHY123 ( talk) 10:45, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Need research Rawat643 ( talk) 03:00, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Pasi caste is not an untouchable caste so please remove the word untouchable., Pasi caste is a kshatriya varna caste., you can find all the proofs on youtube and other articles written on google there were many maharajas was in pasi caste like suheldev, maharaja lakhan pasi, maharaja bijli pasi ., Pasi caste never ever treated as dalits(untouchable) 1.23.96.173 ( talk) 09:48, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
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Please remove the untouchable/Dalit word from the Pasi caste. The Pasis are part of scheduled castes but they are a deprived community, not oppressed community. Please remove this word or face consequences for demeaning people. Paswaatu ( talk) 19:14, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hello Editors! I put in a simple request to edit the word "Untouchables" to "downtrodden" to describe this caste, as done with various articles describing other downtrodden castes. Describing this community as "Untouchables" not only demoralises the people but also sends a wrong message out as the people of this community are made of the same bone & blood, they deserve respect & are no different than any other community, as use of such words leads to discrimination. Also, if you can, please provide a guide on how to build a wikipedia consensus here.
I request you to remove the "Dalit (Untouchables) community" to "downtrodden community" for the description of this caste.
Thanks Ppassi28 ( talk) 10:50, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
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This article was in quite disreputable state (the lede started "Basically PASI are found in East Uttar pradesh and Bihar,") so I checked backwards and had to go all the way back to 28 October 2010, when User:WALTHAM2 last edited and some 'bots did a few fixes. Literally nothing positive had been changed since then, save a few "references" (it's unclear where/whether they were applied in the article), an a few cats and foreign-wiki links I retained. Otherwise it was all just uncited, poor formatting, etc. I also did some basic copyedit and fixed a lot of overlinking. Just letting folk know this was the point where the article was tidied up, though it certainly still needs work. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 13:51, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Paswan(pasi) are indian civilian Its clear accoording to modern history primitive caste. they lived in Faizabad Barababki,Bahraich,Lucknow,Raibareli,Sita,Hardoi,Lakhimpurkhiri,Shahjahapur, Varanasi,Gazipur, Allahabad, Mirjapur,Kanpur, Jaunpur, Gorakhpur, Pratapgargh, Sultanpur, Hardoi, Deoria Fatehpur, Azamgargh,Unnao like Dalera,Kajand,Nut,Mahre,Chamar,and Pasi.
In validation its very clear in world famous book Gazetteer of the province of Oudh.VOL. 2,--till H to N, year 1877, Imperial Gazetteer of india vol. ii 1908, District Gazetteer Khiri-1979, Unnao District Gazetteer, UP District Gazetteer Volume 10101053.
It wrote on page 4 in Gazetteer Rampur 1974 k, Pasi are posterity of Ahar, Ahir, Barmar, Beria, Bhuihar, Chauhan(except rajput who is not rajput)
Dalera, Khaujar, Nut, They cleaned forest and maked useful for huamn.
In 1996, famous english scholor " Sri R.B Rasel " wrote in his book,The tribes and casr of the central princes of the India " Pasi is a dravid cast " . they ruled large part of awadh, after some Rajput they had destroyed to their dominate and they establish to their dominate.
There seems to be some issue about whether the Pasi are untouchables or not. As of yet, I have not seen evidence to contradict what is currently in this article. Reliable sources are needed to demonstrate this (a few unreliable sources have been mentioned above this section). Primefac ( talk) 16:45, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
We do not use British Raj sources such as William Crooke or Robert Vane Russell, nor do we use sources that are affiliated with Indian communities (mainly because of sanskritisation). Thus, I've reverted to the last reasonably decent version of this article. I'll check the census stuff and reinstate if it is ok. - Sitush ( talk) 06:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Shishirkc, it has been discussed multiple times on this page that whitewashing history is not acceptable in this article. Please stop. Primefac ( talk) 17:23, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
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KIndly remove the contents of pig rearing Wikipedia as this is objectionable things and heart me and my caste. who is chandra Bhan prasad to give the evidence about the pasi caste. Go to 1500 yers ago when Muslim emperor assailant on hindu and hindu king,, at that time they safe to own started untouchable pet at home. this is fact. So please delete the word "pig rearing from the Wikipedia. this circumstance has been stopped, no one like this in hindu caste system.
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Please change "untouchable communities" to "communities" because of it not applicable any more. Santoshpasi ( talk) 10:21, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
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I read this article but what i found is it's misleading. The article writer though have provided sources from Chandra Bhan Prasad and Sarah Beth books but the provided information on these books is not totally true. What i know is my family or my ancestors never reared pig. Though, Pasis were involved in animal husbandry like most of the other peasants do along with agricultural activities. As per Chandra Bhan Prasad, if some people of his village were involved in rearing pig then it doesn't mean that entire pasi community people reared pig or its a tradition, it also comes under animal husbandry. Any cast people can rear pig for a bunch of people you can't blame entire community as pig rearers.
In his article he has already stated that out of 25 pasis in his village only 5 were rearing pigs! Is it right to say it as our tradition ? It could be their circumstances in his village. And what about the other 20 people ?. Also, he mentioned that those few people who reared pigs had stopped rearing them a decade ago which simply states that this was just because of the circumstances few people of his village were rearing pigs.
here's the source: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lXyWE6KbG8oC&pg=PA161#v=snippet&q=pasi&f=false
Also as far as Sarah Beth's source is concerned, he just said Pasi; a community of pig rearers without any fact or background. If you are stating something then provide at least some fact or data which can prove it. Say for an example, there are 100 people of a particular community out of them 5 are living in my village and all of them are thief, it doesn't mean the rest 95 are also thief. How can they say that without a survey ? If you see only 5 people that doesn't mean what these 5 people are doing is right and rest 95 are stupids. When they say they need to justify their statement, even Chandra Bhan has give better details than him.
The point i want to raise here, even if a few pasis would have reared pigs in past then you can't call it a tradition and for a few people you can't blame our entire community. Even in democracy people take 51% votes for majority. When you call something as tradition then it must be followed by majority of people. If that was a tradition then why it was not followed by majority of Pasis ?. It also comes in animal husbandry, pasis also had cattle, they were also farmers why the hell these people are not mentioning that and blaming it as our tradition. Its like the only thing that we were doing in past was pig rearing and nothing else. Even Chandra Bhan's data is contradictory. He calls it tradition and then states that only 5 out of 25 in his village were pig rearers.
I request Wikipedia to remove the word tradition and change pig rearing to word animal husbandry that would be more suitable.
Today i was going through various websites and articles about pasi community i rarely find any website claiming that we were pig rearers, even in Hindi wikipedia, writers haven't mentioned any such thing. Its very hurtful for me and my community people when we see such thing on Wikipedia, Pasis were involved in various activities like farming, animal husbandry, creating war equipment and other tools etc. Wikipedia has just given us a tag of pig rearers in the society. I seriously don't appreciate it ! May be it's not a problem in other countries but in our country its a big problem. Living with such a tag is like a hell which wikipedia has given to us. I will ask our community members to protest against this misinformation.
I don't know with what mindset these book writers specially Sarah Beth had called us pig rearers where Chandra Bhan Prasad's book itself state that a few people of his village reared pig. Then how it could be a tradition ?
The thing that i would like to advice the writer on Wikipedia that he/she would have better gone through other facts before claiming the entire community as pig rearer.
He (Chandra Bhan Prasad) can't blame each and every Pasi caste people that they had this tradition of rearing pigs. Which is totally false and i seriously condemn it.
here is wikipedia hindi link about our community which is totally different from this: https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%80
Other sources were also presented by the previous editor but the writer/reviewer just discarded them. May i know why he is 100% sure about one source that is Sarah Beth's book ?. He is simply ignoring other facts.
The last editor did not accept the sources provided by another editor that were of British writers(Who i believe had scientific thinking) but he is ready to accept the article of Chandra Bhan Prasad who even mentioned that we are born from the sweat of a Hindu God Parshuram, which is totally rubbish. Our constitution says us to have logical and scientific thinking. He is interviewing an illiterate person of our society. It seriously hurts us when a website like Wikipedia doesn't perform a better research before publishing such article.
Its like an abuse to our society. We were the farmers and also ruled in some areas of India. I don't know why people like Sarah Beth and Chandra Bhan Prasad are defaming our caste which is already a schedule cast. This creates a negative image of our community in India. I want Wikipedia people to please review my request and edit this article. Because of your article we are facing insult in the society. I don't want to change history, neither i am against it. But, better do some research before publishing any such article, which can make life worse for some people. We already face caste system and then an article comes with poor or few sources and defames us like pig rearers. I am very disappointed to see this article. Again, i would request Wikipedia editors to edit this article. At least the word tradition and pig rearing to animal husbandry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warrior2425 ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
I again inform you that please change the status about pasi community, they are not untouchable in the indian society. I also see that your information about pasi community does not matching with Wikipedia english version to hindi version. Why? The hindi version shows some correct information about pasi community. And lastly i think you should get a survey in their society to get original status about pasi community. Please notice my view. Thank you! Abhiwiki1234 ( talk) 10:18, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Few parts of this article are wrong. I have already mentioned most things in my previous post. You can't say a community 'a caste of pig rearers' just because a person said it without giving any facts. This article lacks proper facts and that is why people are reacting on it from the date it is published.
This article has not faced much backlash just because still our community is growing in terms of education. Nobody is trying to ignore facts we are just asking to correct the things, as i already said in my previous post later or sooner its gonna change as more and more people of my community will get educated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warrior2425 ( talk • contribs) 09:47, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
आपने पासी समाज को कुछ हद तक सही कुछ हद तक गलत दिखया है इसे कृपया सुधारे। Vibhor pasi ( talk) 17:15, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalit
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/618508/untouchable
John Webster (1999). Untouchable, Dalits in Modern India (Ed: S. M. Michael). pp. 11–19. ISBN 978-1555876975. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TimesGerman ( talk • contribs) 18:54, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Untouchable, Dalits in Modern India
ये सही नही आप किसी भी समाज के बारे में इस तरीके से पेश नही कर सकते ,और ref कितना दूं मैं आपको ,अपना mail दिजीये मैं आपको avidence देता हूँ
धन्यवाद Vibhor pasi ( talk) 16:39, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Please this is Very bad information about Pasi community so update new information
Adolf bijili ( talk) 18:06, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Pls open lock Cgange ,bldy typr words about pasi cominuty ok ,many upar caste now untochable Bat you not mentioned
I repeat open lock Update information
My request for you ,who anyone command this page Adolf bijili ( talk) 02:48, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I hope r u do this Adolf bijili ( talk) 02:58, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Pasi society has been shown in a very dirty manner, rightly correct it or else I will do the case Wikipedia Adolf bijili ( talk) 03:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Ok u given me some day ,update more infirmation Adolf bijili ( talk) 03:20, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I am belong pasi comiunty This is not good, the pasi society has been told very wrongly, which is not us, U With this our society is unhappy, it has not been reformed at the earliest, this is damaging the image and mental harassment. So pls i requst you Change this bldy type word , U have neeed refrence or source i will provide you Adolf bijili ( talk) 04:47, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
I m provide you avidence Why are you mention bldy type word You dont no pasi hiatory ,, Y are you mot mention untouchble word other comiunty like chamar ,bhar, khatik ,why are you Menton only Pasi community , You not father wikipidia ok
How can i contect with you
Wats your gmail id Adolf bijili ( talk) 02:58, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
DEAR Sir,
Above your Wikipedia Page Pasi Caste related using abuse word & Write it such likes untouchable. You have written about in Pasi society is very negative & Pasi community opposes it. If you Want about Pasi community so read Audh gazetteer but don't spread this types rumour in Pasi community is untouchable. Many Pasi King & freedom Fighter participating in independent of India. Adolf bijili is representative in our community so its humble request Allow writes with the true fact in Pasi caste & other Wise I have to Take action in Wikipedia Page.
Many Books Write-In about Pasi Coummnity so allow writing in Adolf bijili in Pasi Caste. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neerajsaroj90 ( talk • contribs) 08:03, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Pasi not unouchble this bldy indian politcs Pasi community never accepted,
Why are you not mention untouchble chamar ,mahar etc
See | url= [1] Adolf bijili ( talk) 03:13, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
pls dont mension these type of word because now no any caste who are untouchable in India so pls edit it. and wright good and right word and senten Adolf bijili ( talk) 06:37, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
I am providing you the evidence, so why are not you correcting your words on wikipidiya
Adolf bijili ( talk) 08:48, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
The added information is wrong with regards to Pasi community. There is a long history behind the Pasi's who were known as warriors and fighting forces after intervention of Britishers were brutally harrassed and while caste formation they were added in the 54th list of SC in the state of Maharashtra. Requesting you to delete dalit word and wrong information added for Pasi community Neetu Saroj ( talk) 12:55, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
YOU ARE GIVING WRONG INFORMATION SO PLEASE CHANGE THIS WIKIPEDIA Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 16:47, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
According to a Journey through the Kingdom of Oudh (1849-1850) of Sleeman's Diary it was found that there are almost all the Kings of Oudh, or 3000,000 to 4000 thousand Paso's army soldiers, of which Barabanki Ramnagar Dhimra King Gurbaksh Singh, Raja Gangabax Rawat, Sitapur, King of Nahab Ali of Mahmudabad, who was full of arrogant soldiers in the army, was the specialty of his that it was loyal to his king and never betrayed Were, were sure of their tongue. Awadh Paso has contributed a lot in the fight for the country's independence, so all the kings and There was a Passover army near Talukars but there was also the Pulsi Paltan in the battles of Nawab Wazid Ali Shah, which had a different place, the existence of the Pasi Paltan came out openly, when Pasi Paltan came to the Begum Hazrat Palace in the siege of Lucknow. Was safely transported to Nepal. Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 03:03, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Pasi combing used to be a warrior, after the end of the Rajapat, these people started to give their services in the Indian Army, due to their fighting and taking control of the palace, these people considered themselves Kshatriya as their counterpart. At the time of the 16th and 17th century, the Pasi caste, which was a fighter's army, most of the king of Oudh were stationed on the military posts of the princely states, and whenever any king of any king had to make the coup, then only on these paramilitary The dependents used to live, they were crazy bowlers, and used to shoot accurately from the distance of 100 yards. Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 02:54, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Classification of the castes has been described under the Nagvanshi branch, Dr. Bhimrao Ambedkar has also told the settled castes to be the Nagvanshi branch. According to the history of Nagak ruler and craftsman movement of the North, which has been edited by Dr. Naval Viyogi, the children of Padmavati-Bharashiva (Takshak Tuka) were the children of the Raj family, after which they lost their palace, Pasi Rajpasi is the chief of the party.The book, Dr. Ram Dayal Verma Barshiv dynasty name Nagesvanshi Bharshiv describes the caste in which, later in the Gupta Empire, it is punishable with rape and dacoity, and during the middle period, it is called Pasi. Origin of Passive Caste Large scholars have developed the passersby from Nagvanshi Bharshiva's Feldsar (Takhansh), Pasi Nagvanshi is the Chhatri, who is the worshiper of Shiva
Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 02:50, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
There are many possible roots named Pasi; One is the Sanskrit word "Pashika" meaning the loop meaning "a trapper", and the Hindi form of paasi is elusive, in Hindi meaning "pa" (grip) and 'asi' (a sword) from the Hindi words Pasi, which means handing the sword in his hand,a warrior. Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 02:42, 22 May 2019 (UTC) Pasi is primarily a caste of India, the caste is described as a character, a primitive race or a race, [1] Rajpasi is a branch of the Pasi caste, which was a ruler in Awadh. [2] He also had Pasi Paltan, which was of great importance in 1857 ok. Shiv Rawat Rajpasi ( talk) 02:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Dear sir,
Pasi (Cast) is not untouchable Like Chamar (Cast).. Dalit Writer Chandra Bhan Prasad who had supplied the information, he himself from untouchable (the Chamar Cast) category ... How can you people Address anyone untouchable (cast), on the basis of information supplied by Very much lower cast the Untouchable Chamar cast..
Request you to please remove the word Untouchable from this page....
We people are continuesly requesting to update correct information...
This time if you fail to remove the word untouchable or any other discriminatory word.. We will take leagal action for sure... Rrshesh ( talk) 10:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Indian editors are very much cast biased. They are very rude and less knowing the socity.
I want to know that on what basis the Wikipedia page Declaired the "Pasi" (Cast) as untouchables.. Please instruct to your volunteer in India to show the authentic proof.
The word "Untouchable/Dalit" is banned by Indian government. Know one is permitted to used these word against any people in India.
Please remove the word "Untouchable" From the Article "Pasi" (Cast) from your wikipedia. Please use Marshal cast instead.
You are requested to please update the article with correct word. We have tried many times but some time they correct the description but again some editor undo the changes.
Pasi cast is not Untouchable. Pasi is the warrior class in Indian cast System.
As name suggest "Pasi" Means "Sword holder" in the palm.
"Pasi" name is derived from Sanskrit Language as below--
पासी = प + असि
प = पंजा = Palm
असि = तलवार = Sword
Your are requested to please update the correct word as warrior class / Marshal cast.
In India "Pasi" cast people can be fall pray under the castieat people of other states of India. Because every people search the cast of the people on Wikipedia page in India.
You are requested to please Correct the information or delete the article.
Being a Pasi cast person I am very much disturbed about the article.
You can earn more information from website www.pasi.in Rrshesh ( talk) 11:28, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Cahnge information about pasi caste Adolf bijili ( talk) 13:07, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
The information given is wrong and politically inspired Allahabadinup ( talk) 06:18, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
The given information about the occupation of Pasi community is wrong. Please don't spread wrong information. Their occupation is extracting juice from toddy palm tree. Himanshu150295 ( talk) 20:58, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I would like to point out that untouchability is been removed from the country and anyone promoting it or associating anyone as untouchables creates a non bailable penal offence. Since you have used the word untouchable for this particular caste and all Dalits in general (though they may have been treated as untouchables at one time in the history) goes against the law of India and the Constitution.
Also, I would not like to debate over the folklore or the made up history of the Pasi Community, all I want to say is that the caste was not included as a Schedule Caste by the original list made by the British in 1920s, rather this particular community was given the status of a Criminal Tribe, along with Jats, Gujars, Meena and other caste group.
Anyway, I do not want to brush your knowledge over any history because it is of no use now. What matters is the present and the future. Having a prejudice and sense of dejection for a particular community will do no good in nation building hence, using derogatory terms like untouchables shows nothing but your I'll conceived haterd for Dalit, which should not be there.
Hence I request you to make necessary changes or else a better page can anytime be created with more citations. I would be reporting the usage of the derogatory word with the Wikipedia and will think of making formal complaints too.
Regards Shanky1410 ( talk) 19:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
See, the point is you should not agree with any of the made up history, but something that is eradicated from the country should not be used anymore. Everyone in India faced untouchability, even the Brahmins, Rajputs, Kayasthas or the other backward caste communities, in the hands of the Britishers, who considered themselves to be higher than the Indian race. They did not allow any Indian to enter their dwellings, seperate room and compartment in the trains for Indians irrespective of their castes, Indians were not allowed to take any officer grade post etc. So much so that they would not touch Indians and would write slogans like Indians and dogs not allowed. This continued for more than 200 years. Even Mahatma Gandhi was treated as an untouchable and thrown out of the train.
I don't know who you are, you might be working with the IT cell or some organisation might have outsourced this task to you to make sure that these things exist. Also, reading your write ups I can assure you that you're not too educated and wise, you must be based out of India and could be working with a proxy to edit and demean people if you can and you're an Indian ofcourse.
Its upto you to not edit this and make sure the country is still the same as it were 1000 of years ago. Few will reap the benifits out of it and become super rich and you will stay the same editing these things and becoming happy in your own head by feeling superior or the others.
With regard to law and you not coming to India, it is immaterial. The fight against untouchability has been long and arduous. Every Indian faced it irrespective of their castes because of the ignorance of few like you. The fight still go on. A formal complaint read with Article 17 of the constitution, IPC and Information Technology Act shall be filed. IP address shall be traced. Shanky1410 ( talk) 10:10, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
In Wikipedia, when we read about our Pasi society that our profession was to rearing a pigs, this false information works to mentally torture us and our entire society. The history of North India with evidence shows how many brave kings have been in the Pasi caste who have ruled all over North India for many years and after the end of the state text, the main profession of the Pasi caste is to fight as a soldier in war. The history of North India is a witness to the fact that the Pasi caste is a marshal caste. I request you not to make mental exploitation of the Pasi society, but by providing the wrong information about the Pasi caste profession, through the history of the Pasi kings of North India, there is more evidence that the main profession of the Pasi caste is pigs Not to rearing but to fight as a general and soldier in many wars in INDIA. I am attached some evidence related to this. Refrence:- Narayan, Badri (February 2004). "Inventing caste history: Dalit mobilisation and nationalist past". Contributions to Indian Sociology. 38 (1–2): 199. doi:10.1177/006996670403800108. ISSN 0069-9667 Vishu4466verma ( talk) 08:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Pasi caste doesn't belong to untouchable , so don't write this word in wiki , pasi is successor of royal family like bijli pasi , lakhan pasi , madari pasi etc Ajeet -rawat1 ( talk) 07:14, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Pasi not a untachable and not a dalit he is royal king caste Ranjit paswan ( talk) 03:18, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
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Pasi not a dalit community Ranjit paswan ( talk) 03:06, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
And not a untachable community pasi caste people protest your Wikipedia article so please change (remove) dalit or untachable community if you not edit this so protest wekipedia website 🙏🕉️ Ranjit paswan ( talk) 03:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
So please remove this bad word okk
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1. There are warriors icons such as Uda Devi, Maharaja Lakhan Pasi his name is written in the stone as "Maharaja" meaning King, Maharaja Bijli Pasi(King Lightning) was the leader of an extensive 12th century kingdom ruled in Awadh region. He is supposed to have consolidated his position and regned over large tracts of land in the medieval period. He was contemporary of Prithviraj Chauhan and is credited with founding Bijnor(Small town near Lucknow. He constructed twelve forts which still remain in Lucknow [1]
Also from other source Indicating pasi Ruler existed, taken directly from source. During the course of field investigation among the Pasi they claimed a glorious past. They proudly talked of the princely States and territories ruled by them, especially in Avadh region. The Raj Pasi section particularly claimed its descent from the rulers. As mentioned earlier. the etymological significance of the term 'Raj' is derived from 'royal' or 'lineage from kings~. The Pasi claimed that at one time they held 22 chieftainshipS in Avadh alone. In support of their claim they repoted certain cities and towns which were named after certain Pasi rulers. In this connection. by way of illustration, they mentioned that Lucknow city was named after Raja Lakhan, Malihabad after Raja Mullaha. Satrik after Satan, Bijnor after Bijin and Nagram after Nalgann _. all Pasi rulers. The claim of the Pasi regarding their pristine glory is supported by some earlier scholars. such as Elliot. Crooke and Russel. From the above account it would appear that although they might have exaggerated their claim of lordships in certain areas, their association with certain other Rajput kings or chiefs appears to suggest that in the past the Pasi did rule· some territories, especially in Avadhregion of Uttar Pradesh. As mentioned elsewhere, they were also associated with militia and continued their military traditions in theannies until recently. Besides. they also appear to have played an important role in the Indian revolt against the British in 1857 as they claim to have rescued Begum Hazrat Mahal of Avadh from the Britishers. " [2].
A study on quote from the source-"Agarwal (Eastern Anthropologist, Vol. XV. No.2, 1962; 161-164) found the Pasi and the Chamar of Hardai (U.P.) very similar in their skin colour, stature and general built-up. But On the basis of blood tests conducted by him he observed that serologically they are quite different from Chamar and, on the other hand, closer to the other Denotified Tribes of the area, such as the Bhat and Karwal. " [3]
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Change "The Pasi is a Dalit (untouchable) community of India." to "The Pasi community belongs to Scheduled Caste". To be specific. [4] Apart from this the History section is very vague just barely scratch the surface at least add more content. p.s removed all the opinions and only information with sources. Subham1337 ( talk) 22:37, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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I m a resident of bihar and i could boldly say that pasi has traditionally been involved in toddy making not pig rearing which is an occupation of [dom community].Let me find other sources the article need little changes.Am i allowed? @ Primefac: Heba Aisha ( talk) 00:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
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Pasi Caste is a community mostly found in North India. Pasi refers to traditionally occupation is toddy tapping.[3] The Pasi are divided into Gujjar, Kaithwas, and Boria.[4] In the state of Andhra Pradesh,Telangana they have OBC status.[5][6] They live in the northern Indian states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. Pasi are ex-untouchable caste of India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pra90 ( talk • contribs) 20:28, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Dalit word should be rectified as it's offensive and obliterates whereas this has been criticised and forbidden [1] to use as per the law of the land. Also, referring to Pasi to Dalit will widen the community which may lead to the spread of misinformation as mentioned by many authors. Dalit word cover more than 200 castes in India and has different occupation and profession whereas primarily focusing upon caste would help the article to provide relevant information rather than involving the Dalit community. — Sanskari Hangout 04:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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How can you put untouchable word...mention ex-untouchable that to in somewhere in middle..This wiki page seems to be written in hatred. Pra90 ( talk) 15:21, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Please mention ex-untouchable instead of untouchable Pra90 ( talk) 15:22, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Very bad..... remove untouchable Devendra RajPasi ( talk) 06:18, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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I will make this article to better than with releable sources Vijay Parshuram ( talk) 09:44, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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This article need more information please grant me permission Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 19:56, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
In Bihar, the Pasi are also known as the Chaudhary. The community were traditionally connected with toddy tapping. They are found throughout Bihar, and speak the Magadhi dialect of Hindi. They have four sub-divisions, namely the Tirsulia, Gaiduha, Kamani and Byadha. In addition to toddy tapping, the community now are also involved in a number of activities such as petty business. [1] Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 17:02, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
write the new section topic Occupation The Pasi Have Lack Occupations like Toody Taping, Pig rearing, business so please Write the new section give more information to the The Pasi Caste Pasi (caste) ( talk) 12:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
The People of India, compiled by the Anthropological Survey of India, describes them as a community of small peasant farmers, many of whom have started to migrate to cities, and are now engaged in businesses, private and government service and industrial labour. [2] Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 17:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
In Bihar, the Pasi are also known as the Chaudhary. The community were traditionally connected with toddy tapping. They are found throughout Bihar, and speak the Magadhi dialect of Hindi. They have four sub-divisions, namely the Tirsulia, Gaiduha, Kamani and Byadha. In addition to toddy tapping, the community now are also involved in a number of activities such as petty business. [1] Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 17:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
The People of India, compiled by the Anthropological Survey of India, describes them as a community of small peasant farmers, many of whom have started to migrate to cities, and are now engaged in businesses, private and government service and industrial labour. [3] Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 17:20, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Chandra Bhan Prasad, a journalist and adviser to dalit organisations, recalls how those who continued pig-rearing were ill-treated by socio-political activists of their community, who blamed the occupation in large part for their untouchable status "and not the Caste Order or the systems of Brahmanism". Threats of ostracism would be issued and, at least in his village, the tradition of pig-rearing eventually stopped. [4] Kanchan7122002 ( talk) 17:22, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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The name Pasi ( Hindi: पासी) is composed of two Hindi words Pa ( grip) and asi ( sword), implying one who possesses a sword in his hand, in other words, a soldier. [1] Anthony 250ka ( talk) 08:55, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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In Bihar, the Pasi are also known as the Chaudhary. The community were traditionally connected with toddy tapping. They are found throughout Bihar, and speak the Magadhi dialect of Hindi. They have four sub-divisions, namely the Tirsulia, Gaiduha, Kamani and Byadha. In addition to toddy tapping, the community now are also involved in a number of activities such as petty business. [1]
The People of India, compiled by the Anthropological Survey of India, describes them as a community of small peasant farmers, many of whom have started to migrate to cities, and are now engaged in businesses, private and government service and industrial labour. [2]
Chandra Bhan Prasad, a journalist and adviser to dalit organisations, recalls how those who continued pig-rearing were ill-treated by socio-political activists of their community, who blamed the occupation in large part for their untouchable status "and not the Caste Order or the systems of Brahmanism". Threats of ostracism would be issued and, at least in his village, the tradition of pig-rearing eventually stopped. [3] Anthony 250ka ( talk) 04:16, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
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In Bihar, the Pasi are also known as the Chaudhary. The community were traditionally connected with toddy tapping. They are found throughout Bihar, and speak the Magadhi dialect of Hindi. They have four sub-divisions, namely the Tirsulia, Gaiduha, Kamani and Byadha. In addition to toddy tapping, the community now are also involved in a number of activities such as petty business. [1]
Chandra Bhan Prasad, a journalist and adviser to dalit organisations, recalls how those who continued pig-rearing were ill-treated by socio-political activists of their community, who blamed the occupation in large part for their untouchable status "and not the Caste Order or the systems of Brahmanism". Threats of ostracism would be issued and, at least in his village, the tradition of pig-rearing eventually stopped. [2] Anthony 250ka ( talk) 05:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC) Anthony 250ka ( talk) 11:45, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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Pasi (caste) was Registered in Schedule caste with The Name Pasi, Tarmali So please write Full name Jonny8920 ( talk) 05:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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The Pasi of Maharashtra are a composite of subgroups such as Raj Pasi , Kaithwar Pasi , Baurasi Pasi , Gujar Pasi , Aratkh Pasi and Mangta or Pas Mangta . They are immigrants from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar . Jonny8920 ( talk) 12:58, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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In Bihar, the Pasi are also known as the Chaudhary. The community were traditionally connected with toddy tapping. They are found throughout Bihar, and speak the Magadhi dialect of Hindi. They have four sub-divisions, namely the Tirsulia, Gaiduha, Kamani and Byadha. In addition to toddy tapping, the community now are also involved in a number of activities such as petty business. [1]
The People of India, compiled by the Anthropological Survey of India, describes them as a community of small peasant farmers, many of whom have started to migrate to cities, and are now engaged in businesses, private and government service and industrial labour. [2]
Chandra Bhan Prasad, a journalist and adviser to dalit organisations, recalls how those who continued pig-rearing were ill-treated by socio-political activists of their community, who blamed the occupation in large part for their untouchable status "and not the Caste Order or the systems of Brahmanism". Threats of ostracism would be issued and, at least in his village, the tradition of pig-rearing eventually stopped. [3] Anthony 250ka ( talk) 13:55, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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The Pasi claim their origin from a Vedic sage Bhrigu , the founder of the Bhargavas in which Jamadagni and Parshuram was born . The community also trace their origin to Parshuram. [1] Anthony 250ka ( talk) 02:47, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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Please write List of Pasis to the Notable People section. This is a list of notable people of the Pasi community. Rp7122002 ( talk) 16:24, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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Update the article image and use this image because it is more clear.
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Please write the name in the notable people section. They are notable People's of the Pasi community.
* Kalpana Saroj is a female Indian entrepreneur and a Tedx speaker. [2] She is the Chairperson of Kamani Tubes in Mumbai, India.
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User is a blocked sock, but it's not an unreasonable request so I personally won't be removing it (that being said I'm also not going to enact it). Primefac ( talk) 14:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- closing as not done, since none of the references provided support that the concerned personalities belong to Pasi Community. Apart from the user being blocked as Primefac mentioned, the request fails to comply verifiability policy. Chirota ( talk) 00:52, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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I’m a Indian and my surname is Passi, but I’m not scheduled caste at all. Stop spreading false information. Who told you that Passi’s are untouchable??? 2402:3A80:1361:5148:E44D:786:98DC:47BD ( talk) 20:21, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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The name Pasi ( Hindi: पासी) is composed of two words Pa ( grip) and asi ( sword), implying thereby one who hold a sword in his hand or in other words a soldier. [1] Another etymology is that the name comes from the Sanskrit pashika, "one who uses a noose." The Pasi are said to have used nooses for climbing trees. [2]
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Is this good enough or is there some WP:FALSEBALANCE going on? Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 14:35, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
I am requesting to remove the word untouchables and Dalits from this page. The Pasi community is a governing community in history, Your page has used words like untouchables and Dalits for the Pasi community, which should be removed immediately. People trust your page, so by reading this for this community, people incite inferiority complex towards this community, Therefore, the Director is requested to remove the word untouchables and Dalits from this page so that social harmony can be maintained and casteism is not encouraged, Otherwise we will be binding on the court to resort.
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Courtesy link to AN/I report due to perceived legal threat: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents § Perceived legal threat at Talk:Pasi (caste) Bsoyka ( talk · contribs) 03:15, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
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The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is A community of India. Pasi refers to tapping toddy, a traditional occupation of the Pasi community. [1] The Pasi are divided into Gujjar, Kaithwas, and Boria. [2] They are classified as an Other Backward Class in Andhra Pradesh and Telangana. [3] [4] They live in the northern Indian states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. According to William Crooke, the word Pashi derives from the Sanskrit word Pashika, a noose used by Pasis to climb and tap toddy, a drink obtained from palm tree. The tapping of toddy is the original occupation of the Pasi community. However, just like other aspirational caste groups of India, Pasis have a myth of origin. They claim that they originate from the sweat of Parshuram, an incarnation of Vishnu. They claim support for this in the word sweat being derived from the Hindi word Pasina and it further paves the way for their claim of " Kshatriyatva". [1] The Pasi live mainly in the northern Indian states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh, were their traditional occupation was that of rearing pigs. [5] The Pasis of most of the north Indian states have been classified as Scheduled Castes by the Government of India. [1] In the 2001 Indian census, the Pasi were recorded as being second-largest Dalit group in Uttar Pradesh. At the time, they constituted 16 per cent of the population of the state and mostly inhabited the Awadh region. [6] The 2011 Census of India for the state recorded their population as 6,522,166. This figure includes the Tarmali. [7] Ramnarayan Rawat states that the role of the Pasi an communities in the Kisan Sabha movement has been understated by earlier historians. He writes that earlier scholarship held Pasi involvement to be minimal, late-arriving, and more inclined towards criminality and rioting than political activism. [8] He notes that the involvement of Pasi and Chamars was significant from the outset. According to him, the Pasi, being land owners, had the same concerns as other Savarna groups, rather than being the 'alienated' pig-rearers they had sometimes been characterised as. [8] Chandra Bhan Prasad, a political commentator, has said that those who continued pig-rearing were ill-treated by socio-political activists, who blamed the occupation in large part for their status rather than the Brahminism. [9] The Pasi have in recent times engaged in invention of tradition. Badri Narayan, a social historian and cultural anthropologist, says thatOf late, when? Hindu Nationalists ( Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and affiliates) have been trying to appropriate different folk-heroes of the Pasi caste as Hindu icons to mobilize the electoral prospects of the Bharatiya Janata Party. [11] Hindu nationalists have supported claims that there was a Pasi kingdom that ruled what is now Uttar Pradesh and Bihar in the 11th and 12th century. The rulers of this claimed state include Bijli Pasi. [12]
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The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is a Dalit community of India. 2401:4900:55A3:3138:FBE5:8AF1:21EE:920E ( talk) 19:05, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hey do you thing all pasi are Dalit? They need help from government they all want reservation ?
Many people from pasi cast is highly educated and working in Well known places. Many are doctors, engineers, CTOs etc. Many of them achieve success with any reservations. But when they said they belong to sc aur dalit community. They face many discrimination people search about there cast and category and make them feel like you are low , untouchables etc. This word should not written anywhere for a specific caste. This one also consider as an discrimination under the government policy. And here is below stories of discrimination.
[1] 2401:4900:55A2:214D:D353:24A9:BC04:BC0 ( talk) 18:31, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
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The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is a Hindu community of India.
Hey do you thing all pasi are Dalit? They need help from government they all want reservation ?
Many people from pasi cast is highly educated and working in Well known places. Many are doctors, engineers, CTOs etc. Many of them achieve success with any reservations. But when they said they belong to sc aur dalit community. They face many discrimination people search about there cast and category and make them feel like you are low , untouchables etc. This word should not written anywhere for a specific caste. This one also consider as an discrimination under the government policy. And here is below stories of discrimination.
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pasi's never reared pigs. they were strictly toddy tappers 116.75.236.143 ( talk) 19:05, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
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pasi's were traditionally toddy tappers only. they never reared pigs. this is derogatory. please remove this 116.75.236.143 ( talk) 19:01, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Pasi ancestors were king, they are not untouchable, please remove these word untouchable, if u want proof, then read book named gazetteer of india 2405:204:2189:A02A:5039:795B:7F38:611A ( talk) 02:26, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
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Remove the word 'Dalit' and 'Untouchable' from this article, It's not a way to treat a living person nor legal to call someone Dalit or Untouchable. According to Article 341 of Indian Constitution Using word 'Dalit' for the members belonging to Schedule Castes and Schedule Tribes as the same does not find mentioned in the Constitution of India or any statute. Refer the document and specially read the points 2 and 3. Also the Hon'ble High Court of Madhya Pradesh, Gwalior Bench in its order dated 15.01.2018 passed in W.P. No. 20420 of 2017 (PIL)-Dr. Mohanlal Mahor Vs Union of India & Ors.
Remove those words ASAP and don't try to discriminate Pasi's by using such words. StoryWriter2411 ( talk) 19:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) did you even read this document? what reliable source you want other than a NIC pdf, It is signed by Arvind Kumar (Director SCD). Related article, PIL details, High court bench detail all are also mentioned there. What else you're looking for?
Visit following links as well:
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/madhya-pradesh-hc-asks-centre-state-not-to-use-dalit-in-official-communications/story-1cQDQ7GIc2r6I9h3CIMI5O.html https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/dalit-word-is-unconstitutional-scheduled-caste-commission/articleshow/2710993.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst&from=mdr https://indianexpress.com/article/india/avoid-name-dalit-in-all-official-transactions-karnataka-govt-6442993/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by StoryWriter2411 ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is a community of India. [1] 2409:4043:196:91D1:D49A:661D:3948:DC7A ( talk) 20:35, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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In Many state in India take action against use of this word of any person or any community. 2409:4043:4D91:DE8B:B18A:1398:DB2C:3FAD ( talk) 08:16, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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Pasi is from the Shava culture sect of Sanatan Dharma. It is a nagvanshi Kshatriya caste.It is known by different names in different states. Any of their work.These Bhar Pasi are known by the names of Gurjar, Pasi, Pasi, Kaithvas, pasi, pasi, etc.It comes under Schedule Cast in Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh and General Category in Assam Kerala.
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Pasi is a king of Awadh.It has been the ruling caste of North India, the evidence of which we get in the Awadh Gazetteer Year.Pasi are a caste community of one found in India. It is mainly found in North India. Bihar Uttar Pradesh Madhya Pradesh It comes in Schedule Cast and Andhra Pradesh Arunachal Pradesh Telangana in OBCItalic text Caste and Kerala in General Category or as per Constitution of India.It is believed to follow the sect of Sanatan Dharma.Or does it fall in the Kshatriya caste according to the Hindu Varna?They are mainly known as Bhar Pasi Gurjar, Pasi Pasi Raj Pasi Kaithwas Pasi Bavaria Pasi. सुदेश पासी ( talk) 18:18, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
I want to say that pasi is in historical great fighter and there kingdom so i requset to government remove from sc caste keep gernal become they want this type of thing they are biscally not for our prectepation and we want our need By Ritesh kumar To government of up and all india 47.9.85.53 ( talk) 15:07, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
In Many state in India take action against use of this word of any person or any community.
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change untouchable to hindu caste. 2409:4043:2197:85E6:58C9:5E56:25B9:54D5 ( talk) 13:22, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
This Wikipedia page is about Indian caste. All the details written in this page show the information about Indian Pasi caste. And in India the word untouchable is banned to be used to represent any caste or person. This page contains the word untouchable for this caste which comes under government action. Please remove immediately.
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change Dalit and untouchable to hindu caste. 2409:4043:2197:85E6:957:1148:9294:45A7 ( talk) 12:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
untouchable word is come under discrimation if this word used for any person or any community.
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change untouchable to hindu caste. BrownWritter ( talk) 18:09, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
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Change untouchable to hindi caste. 2409:4043:2184:16FB:D7D0:EBEE:BC5C:E986 ( talk) 18:33, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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talk) 18:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)The Pasi (also spelled Passi) is a Dalit community of India.[1][2] Pasi refers to tapping toddy, a traditional occupation of the Pasi community.[3] The Pasi are divided into Gujjar, Kaithwas, and Boria.[4] They are classified as an Other Backward Class in Andhra Pradesh and Telangana.[5][6] They live in the northern Indian states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4064:4E88:E403:A4EB:60C0:5F7:67EE ( talk) 08:16, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Pasi enjoys the status of Scheduled Caste in the schedule cast, it is absolutely wrong to call it Dalit because Dalit is an unconstitutional word which is absolutely wrong. Pasi has the status of OBC general in many states, I hope you change this article. Once you get the information you will improve Wikipedia Thanks Pasi well-wisher ( talk) 09:39, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Passi and pasi are different Passi is khatri clan and belongs to punjabi community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.222.12 ( talk) 04:00, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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Dear there is a written a untouchables community it's a totally wrong , coz of it's a bramin warrior cast not a untouchables community's , so correction it there and it's a power full and dada parsurams the great indian loards vanshaj so ols remove the dalit and untouchables community from there and don't publish faq information , thanks Pradeep211198 ( talk) 18:20, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
So pls update in a proper information desk and provide a proper knowledge, pasi is not a untouchables community it's a great warrior cast . Pradeep211198 ( talk) 18:21, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
What type of reliable sources you want? Text me i will give you all the proofs .., Go to youtube and just simply write pasi caste you will gonna get your answer .., Pasi caste is warrior caste who ruled between 9th century to 13th century in awadh area in india .,, even our prime minister is providing the information of pasi maharajas in his speeches.., just go to youtube you will find everything.., Its my humble request to you to please remove dalit(untouchable) .,, Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 19:50, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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Pasi caste is not an untouchable caste so please remove the word untouchable., Pasi caste is a kshatriya varna caste., you can find all the proofs on youtube and other articles written on google there were many maharajas was in pasi caste like suheldev, maharaja lakhan pasi, maharaja bijli pasi ., Pasi caste never ever treated as dalits(untouchable) Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 19:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
What type of sources you want tell me i will give you??? Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 20:02, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Tell me ????? Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 20:03, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
I will you all the proofs Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 20:03, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
I will give you all the proofs Rajbhushan 2410 ( talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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Pasi was never been an untouchable or dalit so please remove the word dalit and untouchable. Pasi caste is a warrior caste khastriya, varna. There were thousands of pasi king has ruled awadh, which is now uttar pradesh.
Read the book pasi samaj darpan by ramprakash saroj, pasi samrajya by rk choudhary, bikhra rajwans by ram dayal verma. 223.226.166.60 ( talk) 03:03, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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talk) 03:22, 12 May 2022 (UTC)Punjabi khatris passi are different from pasi and are khatris 2409:4055:29E:7D17:0:0:21F1:68A1 ( talk) 11:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
The information must be changed especially the words dalits(untouchables) There are many misinformation in this article. The pasi caste was not always been a lower caste. Our ancestors and Elders having the proof of our caste , our older elders tells us the stories and folks about the many kings and their glorious history belonging to pasi castes. There are many evidences on media and YouTube about Pasi. A caste having many kings and soliders in a particular area, there descendants should never be termed as dalit or lower caste. Rawat643 ( talk) 06:11, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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103.58.152.85 ( talk) 10:10, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
PASI is community which ruled in vast area of what is now uttar pradesh these are nagvanshi khatriya of bharshiv kull they had a big role in 1857 revolution and these and these pasis are war like being and in 12 century one the raja bijli pasi who knows for his 12 forts in oudh region maharaja bijli pasi is known as to defeated king of kannauj raja jaichand who want the soil of oudh these pasi are mainy found in ganjhar maidan or iron palne of ganjhar
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Passi caste is not termed as Dalit or untouchable. Passi term is used for “Lala” in Punjab. That means a wealthy person or a landlord.
There’s nothing to do with untouchable or thing. Please write the articles upon doing research. This may lead to Public offence.
Either edit the article with proper knowledge or remove it completely.
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This caste was divided in gujjars Obc in Telangana and andrapradesh 2409:4055:586:F3F6:0:0:139C:70A4 ( talk) 09:04, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Earlier, their rule used to rule in the entire Awadh area, there were small and big kings, and even today this area is a Pasi-dominated area. But after independence, their condition was not that good, so they were included in the SC caste in the economic survey. JDHHY123 ( talk) 10:45, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Need research Rawat643 ( talk) 03:00, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Pasi caste is not an untouchable caste so please remove the word untouchable., Pasi caste is a kshatriya varna caste., you can find all the proofs on youtube and other articles written on google there were many maharajas was in pasi caste like suheldev, maharaja lakhan pasi, maharaja bijli pasi ., Pasi caste never ever treated as dalits(untouchable) 1.23.96.173 ( talk) 09:48, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
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Please remove the untouchable/Dalit word from the Pasi caste. The Pasis are part of scheduled castes but they are a deprived community, not oppressed community. Please remove this word or face consequences for demeaning people. Paswaatu ( talk) 19:14, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hello Editors! I put in a simple request to edit the word "Untouchables" to "downtrodden" to describe this caste, as done with various articles describing other downtrodden castes. Describing this community as "Untouchables" not only demoralises the people but also sends a wrong message out as the people of this community are made of the same bone & blood, they deserve respect & are no different than any other community, as use of such words leads to discrimination. Also, if you can, please provide a guide on how to build a wikipedia consensus here.
I request you to remove the "Dalit (Untouchables) community" to "downtrodden community" for the description of this caste.
Thanks Ppassi28 ( talk) 10:50, 25 September 2023 (UTC)