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This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because I have already taken care of the section in question. It no longer is as was -- VictorVautier ( talk) 16:31, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
Adapted and recovered some of the formerly deleted info. Akolyth ( talk) 16:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because I have substantially changed the paragraphs which I had taken from the source. Should there be any further objections please let me know. However, it would help if the objections were specific. -- Akolyth ( talk) 19:30, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
I was asking by Kudpung to take a look at this, as I frequently work on sourcing questions. Unfortunately, there remains substantial close paraphrase of the various sources, and the recent efforts to fix it have not been anywhere near sufficient--checking several of the references, I find that parts of them are used at various places in this article. We have a general explanation about about what constitutes excessively close paraphrase: WP:Close paraphrase. To use my own wording for this, as it applies to this particular article, close paraphrase is not fixed by substituting words or phrases. It consists not just of the words used, but the arrangement, the sequence of ideas. A Wikipedia article cannot be written just by taking sections out of preexisting documents, changing the words a little, and combining them into an article--what we call copypaste. Rather, the sources must be used to create something new, written without reliance on the way others have said it, but relying instead on the information content of the sources. This is more difficult with technical material: there is often no way of presenting, for example, a list of specifications using different words, when the words are the standard terms used in the field, and there are no exact synonyms, and the same information must be presented. What can be done then is to use a different manner of presentation, or a different sequence. For example, sometimes things presented separately in the original can be put together as comparisons. Sometimes things common to a set of models and repeated for each of them in the original can be separated out, and said only once. I will take a look back at this in a week or so.
Sometimes I will rewrite articles in cases like this, where the subject is clearly notable, as this is. I am reluctant to do so here--though I have the usual knowledge of computers, and know what the words mean, and what things are important, this subject is not my specialty, and someone whose specialty it actually is, can do it much more easily. DGG ( talk ) 19:21, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
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This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because I have already taken care of the section in question. It no longer is as was -- VictorVautier ( talk) 16:31, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
Adapted and recovered some of the formerly deleted info. Akolyth ( talk) 16:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because I have substantially changed the paragraphs which I had taken from the source. Should there be any further objections please let me know. However, it would help if the objections were specific. -- Akolyth ( talk) 19:30, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
I was asking by Kudpung to take a look at this, as I frequently work on sourcing questions. Unfortunately, there remains substantial close paraphrase of the various sources, and the recent efforts to fix it have not been anywhere near sufficient--checking several of the references, I find that parts of them are used at various places in this article. We have a general explanation about about what constitutes excessively close paraphrase: WP:Close paraphrase. To use my own wording for this, as it applies to this particular article, close paraphrase is not fixed by substituting words or phrases. It consists not just of the words used, but the arrangement, the sequence of ideas. A Wikipedia article cannot be written just by taking sections out of preexisting documents, changing the words a little, and combining them into an article--what we call copypaste. Rather, the sources must be used to create something new, written without reliance on the way others have said it, but relying instead on the information content of the sources. This is more difficult with technical material: there is often no way of presenting, for example, a list of specifications using different words, when the words are the standard terms used in the field, and there are no exact synonyms, and the same information must be presented. What can be done then is to use a different manner of presentation, or a different sequence. For example, sometimes things presented separately in the original can be put together as comparisons. Sometimes things common to a set of models and repeated for each of them in the original can be separated out, and said only once. I will take a look back at this in a week or so.
Sometimes I will rewrite articles in cases like this, where the subject is clearly notable, as this is. I am reluctant to do so here--though I have the usual knowledge of computers, and know what the words mean, and what things are important, this subject is not my specialty, and someone whose specialty it actually is, can do it much more easily. DGG ( talk ) 19:21, 9 July 2012 (UTC)