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The Jehovah's Witnesses belief is based simply on what Jesus himself stated in Matthew 24, refering to the signs of the times, or more correctly "the signs of your coming/presence"
Seeing as how these are all happening NOW should be of great concern to all Christians. The question you would want to ask yourself is, Am I waiting for him to come and show himself, or am I living in accord with righteous requirements? Because if we are just waiting, we are missing the signs. And regardless if you are calling it a "coming" or a "presence" one thing is true, if someone "comes" they are going to "arrive", and they will be "present." (unsigned by User:Jamais)
It is not useful to forward Parousia to second coming. Parousia is usually used as a term to describe the expectance of the early Christian who awaited the second coming in their life time. -- Benedikt 20:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Please don't put that in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaLiel ( talk • contribs) 01:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm terribly sorry, however, this phrase is, indeed, synonymous with the 'Second Coming'. All other encyclopedias, including Britannica and the Catholic Encyclopedia, have an immediate redirect to 'Second Coming' when Parousia is searched. Whether or not an obscure denomination of Christianity believes it to be otherwise, Roman Catholic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox dogma (roughly, oh... 98% of Christendom) believes it to be this way. If you feel that this subject needs to be touched upon, make an article entitled, 'The Parousia as Perceived by Jehovah's Witnesses'. That is all. -- Ambrosiaster ( talk) 12:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
The source (gospels) is written so as to elicit confusion between THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN and THE PAROUSIA (second coming).
Details related to THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN are vague - however, they are abundant. These details suggest things such as "coming in all his glory" and such and so forth. However such is related to the siege of Jerusalem in 70AD.
Details related to THE PAROUSIA (second coming) are moreover - "they will come in my name, do not take heed" and "I'm coming back the same way I'm leaving." INTO THE CLOUDS and so forth, however, what is intended by this suggestion involves uncertainty related to THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN. CLOUDS = UNCERTAINTY / RETURN FROM CLOUDS = INFORMATION
The information related to THE PAROUSIA (second coming) is intermingled with information related to THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN in such a way as to suggest or imply that THE PAROUSIA (second coming) is something other than a return in spirit. The spirit of kindness and so forth.
The big buffoonery involves peoples who are incapable of realizing that their beloved SECOND COMING is something that was fashioned to take place inwardly and through a resolution to their own uncertainty - commensurate of a process of disillusionment involving information related to THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN.
It is written accordingly to elicit such confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristopherBenton ( talk • contribs) 12:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Per WP:Wikipedia is not a dictionary. The word "parousia" is not notable in itself, independently of the concept it describes (ie. Christ's second coming). The meaning of the term and its usage in Biblical texts can be (and already is) briefly explained in the Second Coming article. Dan from A.P. ( talk) 19:42, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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The Jehovah's Witnesses belief is based simply on what Jesus himself stated in Matthew 24, refering to the signs of the times, or more correctly "the signs of your coming/presence"
Seeing as how these are all happening NOW should be of great concern to all Christians. The question you would want to ask yourself is, Am I waiting for him to come and show himself, or am I living in accord with righteous requirements? Because if we are just waiting, we are missing the signs. And regardless if you are calling it a "coming" or a "presence" one thing is true, if someone "comes" they are going to "arrive", and they will be "present." (unsigned by User:Jamais)
It is not useful to forward Parousia to second coming. Parousia is usually used as a term to describe the expectance of the early Christian who awaited the second coming in their life time. -- Benedikt 20:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Please don't put that in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaLiel ( talk • contribs) 01:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm terribly sorry, however, this phrase is, indeed, synonymous with the 'Second Coming'. All other encyclopedias, including Britannica and the Catholic Encyclopedia, have an immediate redirect to 'Second Coming' when Parousia is searched. Whether or not an obscure denomination of Christianity believes it to be otherwise, Roman Catholic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox dogma (roughly, oh... 98% of Christendom) believes it to be this way. If you feel that this subject needs to be touched upon, make an article entitled, 'The Parousia as Perceived by Jehovah's Witnesses'. That is all. -- Ambrosiaster ( talk) 12:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
The source (gospels) is written so as to elicit confusion between THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN and THE PAROUSIA (second coming).
Details related to THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN are vague - however, they are abundant. These details suggest things such as "coming in all his glory" and such and so forth. However such is related to the siege of Jerusalem in 70AD.
Details related to THE PAROUSIA (second coming) are moreover - "they will come in my name, do not take heed" and "I'm coming back the same way I'm leaving." INTO THE CLOUDS and so forth, however, what is intended by this suggestion involves uncertainty related to THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN. CLOUDS = UNCERTAINTY / RETURN FROM CLOUDS = INFORMATION
The information related to THE PAROUSIA (second coming) is intermingled with information related to THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN in such a way as to suggest or imply that THE PAROUSIA (second coming) is something other than a return in spirit. The spirit of kindness and so forth.
The big buffoonery involves peoples who are incapable of realizing that their beloved SECOND COMING is something that was fashioned to take place inwardly and through a resolution to their own uncertainty - commensurate of a process of disillusionment involving information related to THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN.
It is written accordingly to elicit such confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristopherBenton ( talk • contribs) 12:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Per WP:Wikipedia is not a dictionary. The word "parousia" is not notable in itself, independently of the concept it describes (ie. Christ's second coming). The meaning of the term and its usage in Biblical texts can be (and already is) briefly explained in the Second Coming article. Dan from A.P. ( talk) 19:42, 19 November 2021 (UTC)