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There's definitely a problem with the history section when 1/4 of it refers to the humorous (although inaccurate) take on Parma by local tv comedians. The reference to Ghoulardi, Big Chuck, etc should be removed from the history section and added to a pop culture section if anywhere at all. Also, with several historical books on Parma available at the local libraries, one even by former Parma mayor James Day, why are these books not being used as sources, particularly for the history section? This section, along with the majority of the article, needs serious updating and a greater reliance should be made to cite some of those historical books. -- JSmetana ( talk) 04:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Why is Stearns Homestead museum listed as the photo for Parma? Parma is not a farm community and the photo does little to accurately represent Parma. Why not a photo of the historic shopping area around Snow/Ridge or a nice Cleveland skyline view from Parma's State/W. Ridgewood intersection? The skyline view, for instance, would likely be most appropriate to indicate Parma is one of the Cleveland area's suburbs. -- JSmetana ( talk) 03:43, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
The article says, "See the history section of this article for possible reasons for this decline," but I don't really see any relevant information in the history section, unless the reason for the decline is political scandals and sagging power lines. -- Birdhombre 14:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I've recently deleted much of the unsourced information per WP:ATT, though I left some of the stuff that is seemingly verifiable. I also removed the more non-notable sections, especially the sections on police chiefs, and the section on the police investigations, neither of which is sourced reliably, nor encyclopedic or notable. I also removed the current events tag at the top: a city cannot be a current event.
My advice is if you want to include the section on the police investigations, with reliable sources, that should be it's own article, which you COULD have a current event tag on. At this point however, it doesn't have enough reliable sources to be includable. ⇒ SWATJester On Belay! 22:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I think it's unfortunate the "references in popular culture" was removed. Better it had been left with "citation needed" added. swain 01:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Awesome! thanks! swain 00:59, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
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Lester Roper | ?-? |
Francis Szabo | ?-1994 |
Gary Palinkas | 1994-2000 |
Mark Manning | 2000-2003 |
Danny Hoffman | 2003-present |
Paul Phillips
Kenneth Kuczma | |
Pat Altier | |
Charles M. Germana | – present |
Council President: Charles M. Germana
Ward 1: Mary Buchholz Galinas
Ward 2: Sean Brennan - President Pro-Tempore
Ward 3: Nicholas J. Celebrezze
Ward 4: Brian Day - Majority Leader
Ward 5: Tom Regas
Ward 6: Lawrence J. Napoli
Ward 7: Kenneth A. Ramser
Ward 8: Scott M. Tuma
Ward 9: Roy J. Jech
It might be worth mentioning that John Muir Elementary School, a very old school in Parma, caught on fire at one point within the past 20 years and has since agressively remodelled the school and its grounds. I'm not aware of any other school fires in the city and its remodelling is consistent with other major remodelling projects, such as the ongoing Greening of Padua. I don't remember the exact dates and what all has been done, but were someone willing to contact the school or local newspapers, I'm sure the information is out there and again this was a noteworthy event for the city and its educational history. -- 164.107.223.217 00:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello! There’s fairly widespread media attention this week to the possibility that the mayor’s administration may have tried covering up or keeping hush about some internal police investigation until after the police levy passed in an election. Maybe, 164, Wizardman, Swatjester, or Wikipedian, can do something with the below links. I don’t think the sex allegations is the real news, because if you look at the forums and stuff where actual residents react, they seem far more incensed about the crap being known well in advance of the levy, but kept secret, especially because as Americans who believe in innocent until proven guilty, I don’t think we should assume the allegations are true when indictments haven’t even happened yet, but it does seem pretty well factual that higher ups were aware of this for like a month and it is conveniently made news after the election? -- 172.162.183.107 16:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Parma officers investigated in sex case: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/05/parma_officers_investigated_in.html
Parma cops recommended for termination: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/05/parma_cops_recommended_for_ter.html
Officers Accused Of Sexual Misconduct While On Duty: http://www.newsnet5.com/news/13339646/detail.html
Allegations of sexual misconduct against two Parma officers: http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=67788
Parma police sex scandal: http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=67949
Parma Police Officers Accused of Having Sex on Duty: http://www.woio.com/Global/category.asp?C=4397
Chief Says Suspended Officers Should Be Fired: http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=5D814F76201CC4301D5F355988403A43?contentId=3237259&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
Parma PD at it again: http://community.myfoxcleveland.com/blogs/brian6970/2007/05/17/Parma_PD_at_it_again
2 Parma Officers on Paid Leave for Misconduct Allegations: http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=3215088&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1
Parma patrolmen fired over sex allegation: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/05/two_patrolmen_accused_of_havin.html
Parma police officers fired: http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=68480
Ex-Parma cop charged with rape: http://blog.cleveland.com/plaindealer/2007/05/exparma_cop_charged_with_rape.html
Parma police badly need, deserve taxpayer help: http://www.cleveland.com/plaindealer/stories/index.ssf?/base/opinion/1180514137194890.xml&coll=2
I'm not sure of the encyclopedic value of this, as you seemed shaky, too other than perhaps the whole city hall tension continuing. What do others think? -- 164.107.223.217 22:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I've moved a couple of sections and had a look at the article. It's pretty well sourced so far, and might be fun to help raise to GA. Three things to work on would be:
Good work so far. Although I'm nowhere near Ohio, I'd be glad to lend a hand with image cropping/rotation, copyediting, and things like that. Best wishes, Durova Charge! 21:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I found this in my email today as one of those chain youtube links people send, so not sure if its getting enough coverage to warrant anything. Sincerely, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles Tally-ho! 17:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I have tried adding the following reference tonight, but every time I attempt to do so, I get some kind of spam filter error thing about some link, which is odd, because the reference I am trying to add isn't even a link. Anyway, Michael Moore discusses Parma's GM plant in Michael Moore, Downsize This (New York: HarperCollins, 1997), 283. I figure it's relevant to either or both the economy and popular culture sections. Best, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles Tally-ho! 03:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps the person who wrote that could explain why using that phrase to identify a date is more informative or efficient than simply writing "March 15." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.160.30.137 ( talk) 19:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
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There's definitely a problem with the history section when 1/4 of it refers to the humorous (although inaccurate) take on Parma by local tv comedians. The reference to Ghoulardi, Big Chuck, etc should be removed from the history section and added to a pop culture section if anywhere at all. Also, with several historical books on Parma available at the local libraries, one even by former Parma mayor James Day, why are these books not being used as sources, particularly for the history section? This section, along with the majority of the article, needs serious updating and a greater reliance should be made to cite some of those historical books. -- JSmetana ( talk) 04:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Why is Stearns Homestead museum listed as the photo for Parma? Parma is not a farm community and the photo does little to accurately represent Parma. Why not a photo of the historic shopping area around Snow/Ridge or a nice Cleveland skyline view from Parma's State/W. Ridgewood intersection? The skyline view, for instance, would likely be most appropriate to indicate Parma is one of the Cleveland area's suburbs. -- JSmetana ( talk) 03:43, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
The article says, "See the history section of this article for possible reasons for this decline," but I don't really see any relevant information in the history section, unless the reason for the decline is political scandals and sagging power lines. -- Birdhombre 14:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I've recently deleted much of the unsourced information per WP:ATT, though I left some of the stuff that is seemingly verifiable. I also removed the more non-notable sections, especially the sections on police chiefs, and the section on the police investigations, neither of which is sourced reliably, nor encyclopedic or notable. I also removed the current events tag at the top: a city cannot be a current event.
My advice is if you want to include the section on the police investigations, with reliable sources, that should be it's own article, which you COULD have a current event tag on. At this point however, it doesn't have enough reliable sources to be includable. ⇒ SWATJester On Belay! 22:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I think it's unfortunate the "references in popular culture" was removed. Better it had been left with "citation needed" added. swain 01:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Awesome! thanks! swain 00:59, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
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Lester Roper | ?-? |
Francis Szabo | ?-1994 |
Gary Palinkas | 1994-2000 |
Mark Manning | 2000-2003 |
Danny Hoffman | 2003-present |
Paul Phillips
Kenneth Kuczma | |
Pat Altier | |
Charles M. Germana | – present |
Council President: Charles M. Germana
Ward 1: Mary Buchholz Galinas
Ward 2: Sean Brennan - President Pro-Tempore
Ward 3: Nicholas J. Celebrezze
Ward 4: Brian Day - Majority Leader
Ward 5: Tom Regas
Ward 6: Lawrence J. Napoli
Ward 7: Kenneth A. Ramser
Ward 8: Scott M. Tuma
Ward 9: Roy J. Jech
It might be worth mentioning that John Muir Elementary School, a very old school in Parma, caught on fire at one point within the past 20 years and has since agressively remodelled the school and its grounds. I'm not aware of any other school fires in the city and its remodelling is consistent with other major remodelling projects, such as the ongoing Greening of Padua. I don't remember the exact dates and what all has been done, but were someone willing to contact the school or local newspapers, I'm sure the information is out there and again this was a noteworthy event for the city and its educational history. -- 164.107.223.217 00:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello! There’s fairly widespread media attention this week to the possibility that the mayor’s administration may have tried covering up or keeping hush about some internal police investigation until after the police levy passed in an election. Maybe, 164, Wizardman, Swatjester, or Wikipedian, can do something with the below links. I don’t think the sex allegations is the real news, because if you look at the forums and stuff where actual residents react, they seem far more incensed about the crap being known well in advance of the levy, but kept secret, especially because as Americans who believe in innocent until proven guilty, I don’t think we should assume the allegations are true when indictments haven’t even happened yet, but it does seem pretty well factual that higher ups were aware of this for like a month and it is conveniently made news after the election? -- 172.162.183.107 16:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Parma officers investigated in sex case: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/05/parma_officers_investigated_in.html
Parma cops recommended for termination: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/05/parma_cops_recommended_for_ter.html
Officers Accused Of Sexual Misconduct While On Duty: http://www.newsnet5.com/news/13339646/detail.html
Allegations of sexual misconduct against two Parma officers: http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=67788
Parma police sex scandal: http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=67949
Parma Police Officers Accused of Having Sex on Duty: http://www.woio.com/Global/category.asp?C=4397
Chief Says Suspended Officers Should Be Fired: http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=5D814F76201CC4301D5F355988403A43?contentId=3237259&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
Parma PD at it again: http://community.myfoxcleveland.com/blogs/brian6970/2007/05/17/Parma_PD_at_it_again
2 Parma Officers on Paid Leave for Misconduct Allegations: http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=3215088&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1
Parma patrolmen fired over sex allegation: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/05/two_patrolmen_accused_of_havin.html
Parma police officers fired: http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=68480
Ex-Parma cop charged with rape: http://blog.cleveland.com/plaindealer/2007/05/exparma_cop_charged_with_rape.html
Parma police badly need, deserve taxpayer help: http://www.cleveland.com/plaindealer/stories/index.ssf?/base/opinion/1180514137194890.xml&coll=2
I'm not sure of the encyclopedic value of this, as you seemed shaky, too other than perhaps the whole city hall tension continuing. What do others think? -- 164.107.223.217 22:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I've moved a couple of sections and had a look at the article. It's pretty well sourced so far, and might be fun to help raise to GA. Three things to work on would be:
Good work so far. Although I'm nowhere near Ohio, I'd be glad to lend a hand with image cropping/rotation, copyediting, and things like that. Best wishes, Durova Charge! 21:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I found this in my email today as one of those chain youtube links people send, so not sure if its getting enough coverage to warrant anything. Sincerely, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles Tally-ho! 17:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I have tried adding the following reference tonight, but every time I attempt to do so, I get some kind of spam filter error thing about some link, which is odd, because the reference I am trying to add isn't even a link. Anyway, Michael Moore discusses Parma's GM plant in Michael Moore, Downsize This (New York: HarperCollins, 1997), 283. I figure it's relevant to either or both the economy and popular culture sections. Best, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles Tally-ho! 03:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps the person who wrote that could explain why using that phrase to identify a date is more informative or efficient than simply writing "March 15." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.160.30.137 ( talk) 19:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
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