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I could've sworn she was killed by a brick and not a rock. Does anyone know which it was?
the murder weapon was half a brick inside a stocking â Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.36.48 ( talk) 05:04, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
where is melanie rieper at? (pauline parker) located in Scotland she moved there after she was set free â Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.36.48 ( talk) 05:05, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
What about the girls' relationship was so disturbing? Scorpionman 02:06, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
I've removed the following line: Do we have any evidence that the game is inspired by the case. The google references I find trace back to the Wikipedia claim.- gadfium 06:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I can attest to the fact that it is, although I'm hard-pressed to find any information on it that isn't in Japanese, considering that's the language the game is in...
Why is Daughters of Heaven, the play, not mentioned as a portrayal in fiction, and where is it's page?-- 202.154.147.28 ( talk) 00:31, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Citation #3, that states that the girls were never to be allowed to contact each other is contradicted by Citation #8. Which is correct? â Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.20.142 ( talk) 20:53, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
I have removed all references to a BrooWaha article written by "LW" from this Wikipedia article. The link given was http://www.webcitation.org/5XMGiAAg4
The problem is not only that BrooWaha very likely does not meet the criteria listed in WP:RS for reliable sources that can be used in Wikipedia articles but that the article in question was very clearly heavily plagiarized from this very Wikipedia article. Wikipedia cannot use text ripping off earlier versions of the same article as a source for the current article.
I also checked to make sure that it wasn't a case where the Wikipedia article ripped off the other article. That article was published on November 8, 2007, and contains sentences like "The trial was a sensational affair, with allegations of lesbianism and insanity." and others that were present in this Wikipedia article before that date.
(Also, we should in general avoid using webcitation.org links as much as possible. One of the major rules of Wikipedia is that we do not link to pages that are copyright violations, and unless the webcitation.org site has explicit permission from the copyright owner, making a copy of an entire page of another site and putting it online is a clear copyright violation.) DreamGuy ( talk) 18:28, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Pauline Parker is different from Juliet Hulme in that she is known only in relationship to this case. I see no reason for there to be a completely separate article on Wikipedia about her. Absolutely anything about her life notable enough for mention in an encyclopedia should go in this one. If it's not notable for this article it wouldn't be notable for another article either. All the two articles do is duplicate efforts. That article should be redirected to this one, and anything in that one of any significance (and that has reliable sources) should be copied into this article. DreamGuy ( talk) 19:13, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
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What was the motive for the murder? â Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BC82:E590:6132:4588:E3A8:EBBA ( talk) 18:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
Juliet Hulme had already spent time in South Africa - solely for her health. Her father and mother were both returning to the UK - albeit separately. I would conclude that Juliet was therefore to be "sent to live with relatives in South Africaâfor her health". There was no "ostensible" about it, and a more "effectively, if not permanently, separated" was not the aim at all, merely a happy result. Do not forget that the Hulme's had not been in NZ very long, and had no reason to stay. 125.237.105.102 ( talk) 20:19, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Reference #1, Dutiful Daughters is now a dead link. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.31.52.185 ( talk) 16:26, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Rightly or wrongly, this event raises issues of class conflict. These were strongly hinted at in the film, where they were shown as the real reason for officialdoms discomfort at their close relationship, rather than lesbianism or insanity, which were pretexts. Should the entry include something relating to this. 31.68.0.54 ( talk) 12:07, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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I could've sworn she was killed by a brick and not a rock. Does anyone know which it was?
the murder weapon was half a brick inside a stocking â Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.36.48 ( talk) 05:04, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
where is melanie rieper at? (pauline parker) located in Scotland she moved there after she was set free â Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.36.48 ( talk) 05:05, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
What about the girls' relationship was so disturbing? Scorpionman 02:06, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
I've removed the following line: Do we have any evidence that the game is inspired by the case. The google references I find trace back to the Wikipedia claim.- gadfium 06:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I can attest to the fact that it is, although I'm hard-pressed to find any information on it that isn't in Japanese, considering that's the language the game is in...
Why is Daughters of Heaven, the play, not mentioned as a portrayal in fiction, and where is it's page?-- 202.154.147.28 ( talk) 00:31, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Citation #3, that states that the girls were never to be allowed to contact each other is contradicted by Citation #8. Which is correct? â Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.20.142 ( talk) 20:53, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
I have removed all references to a BrooWaha article written by "LW" from this Wikipedia article. The link given was http://www.webcitation.org/5XMGiAAg4
The problem is not only that BrooWaha very likely does not meet the criteria listed in WP:RS for reliable sources that can be used in Wikipedia articles but that the article in question was very clearly heavily plagiarized from this very Wikipedia article. Wikipedia cannot use text ripping off earlier versions of the same article as a source for the current article.
I also checked to make sure that it wasn't a case where the Wikipedia article ripped off the other article. That article was published on November 8, 2007, and contains sentences like "The trial was a sensational affair, with allegations of lesbianism and insanity." and others that were present in this Wikipedia article before that date.
(Also, we should in general avoid using webcitation.org links as much as possible. One of the major rules of Wikipedia is that we do not link to pages that are copyright violations, and unless the webcitation.org site has explicit permission from the copyright owner, making a copy of an entire page of another site and putting it online is a clear copyright violation.) DreamGuy ( talk) 18:28, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Pauline Parker is different from Juliet Hulme in that she is known only in relationship to this case. I see no reason for there to be a completely separate article on Wikipedia about her. Absolutely anything about her life notable enough for mention in an encyclopedia should go in this one. If it's not notable for this article it wouldn't be notable for another article either. All the two articles do is duplicate efforts. That article should be redirected to this one, and anything in that one of any significance (and that has reliable sources) should be copied into this article. DreamGuy ( talk) 19:13, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
![]() | The contents of the Pauline Parker page were merged into ParkerâHulme murder case on 27 July 2016. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
What was the motive for the murder? â Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BC82:E590:6132:4588:E3A8:EBBA ( talk) 18:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
Juliet Hulme had already spent time in South Africa - solely for her health. Her father and mother were both returning to the UK - albeit separately. I would conclude that Juliet was therefore to be "sent to live with relatives in South Africaâfor her health". There was no "ostensible" about it, and a more "effectively, if not permanently, separated" was not the aim at all, merely a happy result. Do not forget that the Hulme's had not been in NZ very long, and had no reason to stay. 125.237.105.102 ( talk) 20:19, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Reference #1, Dutiful Daughters is now a dead link. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.31.52.185 ( talk) 16:26, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Rightly or wrongly, this event raises issues of class conflict. These were strongly hinted at in the film, where they were shown as the real reason for officialdoms discomfort at their close relationship, rather than lesbianism or insanity, which were pretexts. Should the entry include something relating to this. 31.68.0.54 ( talk) 12:07, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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