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Unless some tie to terrorism or bigger issue involved, this looks like just another psycho who lost his beanie-weenies. Don't see it as encyclopedic. 50.111.22.69 ( talk) 21:45, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
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TompaDompa (
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procureur national antiterroriste, Jean-François Ricard. In this case, religious leanings is not irrelevant to the attack. And no, Le Nouvel Obs isn't a tabloid. Anonymous aren't an issue. A Thousand Words ( talk) 16:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
The sources for the religious beliefs of the perpetrator is, from one side, Le Monde, a newspaper of record in France; from another side, the head of the terrorism unit, i.e., a high-ranking officer in the Government of France. WP is not censored and further attempt to remove the WP:RS sources is quite questionable. XavierItzm ( talk) 13:02, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
There is disagreement between sources about the perpetrator's hearing. Most say that he was deaf, but The Local says that he was only partially deaf. TompaDompa ( talk) 15:25, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
[Moved here, where discussion about the content of this article belongs, from my talkpage -- DeFacto ( talk). 08:15, 6 October 2019 (UTC)]
Hi DeFacto, in regards to this edit, it has been confirmed by French authorities that the suspect was motivated by radical Islam to carry out the attack (see here). Your edit summary of it being "a long way confirmed" is therefore incorrect per the most recent reports. This is still a current event, hence the fast pace of changing information, but for now per the recent sources I feel that it is safe to lable the attack as Islamic terrorist. Thanks Inter&anthro ( talk) 03:05, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
As of my writing this, the infobox says that one person was injured, whereas the WP:LEAD says that two people were. The WP:LEAD likewise disagrees with itself about the total number of victims (killed and injured combined), five or six. TompaDompa ( talk) 14:20, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
TompaDompa, in support of this edit, perhaps you could document those requests for quotes here, so they can be reviewed, and perhaps have the quotes either removed or moved to the talkpage to avoid unnecessary clutter in the article. Also we need to decide what to do about the foreign quotes with outstanding requests for English translations. See also WP:CITE#Additional annotation, WP:NOENG and Template:Request quotation for context about quote requests and when to consider adding quotes to cites and/or talkpages as I'm still not convinced we need all these inside the article. -- DeFacto ( talk). 06:18, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
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Unless some tie to terrorism or bigger issue involved, this looks like just another psycho who lost his beanie-weenies. Don't see it as encyclopedic. 50.111.22.69 ( talk) 21:45, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
Religious beliefs of living or recently deceased people are subject to the higher standards of required sourcing mandated by
WP:BLP (in the latter case, see
WP:BDP). In particular, note
WP:BLPSOURCES (The material should not be added to an article when the only sourcing is
tabloid journalism. When material is both verifiable and noteworthy, it will have appeared in more reliable sources.
) and
WP:BLPGOSSIP (Be wary of relying on sources that use
weasel words and that attribute material to anonymous sources.
). While this is not a category but an article, the spirit of
WP:CAT/R is also worth keeping in mind.
TompaDompa (
talk) 11:55, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
procureur national antiterroriste, Jean-François Ricard. In this case, religious leanings is not irrelevant to the attack. And no, Le Nouvel Obs isn't a tabloid. Anonymous aren't an issue. A Thousand Words ( talk) 16:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
The sources for the religious beliefs of the perpetrator is, from one side, Le Monde, a newspaper of record in France; from another side, the head of the terrorism unit, i.e., a high-ranking officer in the Government of France. WP is not censored and further attempt to remove the WP:RS sources is quite questionable. XavierItzm ( talk) 13:02, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
There is disagreement between sources about the perpetrator's hearing. Most say that he was deaf, but The Local says that he was only partially deaf. TompaDompa ( talk) 15:25, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
[Moved here, where discussion about the content of this article belongs, from my talkpage -- DeFacto ( talk). 08:15, 6 October 2019 (UTC)]
Hi DeFacto, in regards to this edit, it has been confirmed by French authorities that the suspect was motivated by radical Islam to carry out the attack (see here). Your edit summary of it being "a long way confirmed" is therefore incorrect per the most recent reports. This is still a current event, hence the fast pace of changing information, but for now per the recent sources I feel that it is safe to lable the attack as Islamic terrorist. Thanks Inter&anthro ( talk) 03:05, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
As of my writing this, the infobox says that one person was injured, whereas the WP:LEAD says that two people were. The WP:LEAD likewise disagrees with itself about the total number of victims (killed and injured combined), five or six. TompaDompa ( talk) 14:20, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
TompaDompa, in support of this edit, perhaps you could document those requests for quotes here, so they can be reviewed, and perhaps have the quotes either removed or moved to the talkpage to avoid unnecessary clutter in the article. Also we need to decide what to do about the foreign quotes with outstanding requests for English translations. See also WP:CITE#Additional annotation, WP:NOENG and Template:Request quotation for context about quote requests and when to consider adding quotes to cites and/or talkpages as I'm still not convinced we need all these inside the article. -- DeFacto ( talk). 06:18, 10 October 2019 (UTC)