The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
B.
Reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
Nice article on such a big club! Per
the authorship statistics, you are not the main author of this article. Has
DroopyDoggy given their consent for the nomination?
I would suggest standardising how the club is referred to in prose. The nicknames "The Parisians" and "the Red and Blues" need to be replaced where they occur in the body. As "Paris" and "Paris SG" are not used in the body, I would suggest removing them from the first sentence as far-less-common variants.
The subsections "Out on loan" and "Other players under contract" need sources.
This is a large article with 212 citations, so I will be spotchecking a random 10% selection. Citation numbers refer to
this version.
44 N The words "crowning glory" and "legend" are not supported by the source.
106 link should be marked as dead; otherwise good
182 N the source does not support "OM was bought by Bernard Tapie"
45 N neither this source or 46 support "the youngest club in history to win a European title at 26 years of existence"
2 N should be marked as dead; sentence
closely paraphrases the source, and should be paraphrased.
117 N Again there is
WP:CLOP: "The connection between Paris Saint-Germain and the city's fashion houses is a longstanding one." is a direct copy of the source
61 N should be marked as dead, alongside citation 60. Most of the preceding sentences are not supported by these citations, such as: "The club secured a maiden domestic treble (Ligue 1, Coupe de la Ligue and Trophée des Champions) in the 2013–14 season", "unprecedented", and "winning the latter with a record-breaking 96 points, becoming the only first French men's team to achieve that feat".
18 N This source is, judging from
its homepage, a student assignment, and is thus unreliable.
207 good
110 good
165 N this appears to be a fan website and thus not a reliable source
146 good, but 2023 doesn't need to be mentioned once, let alone twice, given the year is clear from the previous sentence
81 N "PSG won the Coupe de France" is not supported by the citation
175 good
205 good
26 N I don't think www.paris-canalhistorique.com is a reliable source—it seems more like a blog to me.
31 N Same for www.psg70.free.fr/
88 N "a tie amplified by the uncertainty surrounding Kylian Mbappé's future" is editorializing; the source does not say such a thing
25 N parisunited.fr appears to be a fan-published source, so not reliable
79 good
There are thus issues with 13 out of 20 citations spotchecked—a huge proportion, and a look at the "References" section reveals significant reliance on fan-published websites. This is not acceptable at GA, and the article will likely need a large rewrite to achieve the required quality of reliability and source-text integrity. I will put this nomination on hold until 3 April to see if the nominator, who has waited a long time for a review, feels that this judgement is unfair.
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (
talk)
16:04, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
AirshipJungleman29: The general analysis of the article and of the spotchecked sources seem to be accurate and fair to me. I can definetely fix everything you listed above in the next week, but fixing 65% of 212 citations is going to take more time than that.
Paul Vaurie (
talk)
22:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
OK. Would you be willing to re-open it (via direct request to you specifically) if all citation issues are dealt with in the near-ish future?
Paul Vaurie (
talk)
23:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
That works! Just FYI, I might get there this summer if I get to it at all. I nominated this article a while ago while I had more time, and these days I'm shorter on time. So, we'll see in a bit.
Paul Vaurie (
talk)
04:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
B.
Reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
Nice article on such a big club! Per
the authorship statistics, you are not the main author of this article. Has
DroopyDoggy given their consent for the nomination?
I would suggest standardising how the club is referred to in prose. The nicknames "The Parisians" and "the Red and Blues" need to be replaced where they occur in the body. As "Paris" and "Paris SG" are not used in the body, I would suggest removing them from the first sentence as far-less-common variants.
The subsections "Out on loan" and "Other players under contract" need sources.
This is a large article with 212 citations, so I will be spotchecking a random 10% selection. Citation numbers refer to
this version.
44 N The words "crowning glory" and "legend" are not supported by the source.
106 link should be marked as dead; otherwise good
182 N the source does not support "OM was bought by Bernard Tapie"
45 N neither this source or 46 support "the youngest club in history to win a European title at 26 years of existence"
2 N should be marked as dead; sentence
closely paraphrases the source, and should be paraphrased.
117 N Again there is
WP:CLOP: "The connection between Paris Saint-Germain and the city's fashion houses is a longstanding one." is a direct copy of the source
61 N should be marked as dead, alongside citation 60. Most of the preceding sentences are not supported by these citations, such as: "The club secured a maiden domestic treble (Ligue 1, Coupe de la Ligue and Trophée des Champions) in the 2013–14 season", "unprecedented", and "winning the latter with a record-breaking 96 points, becoming the only first French men's team to achieve that feat".
18 N This source is, judging from
its homepage, a student assignment, and is thus unreliable.
207 good
110 good
165 N this appears to be a fan website and thus not a reliable source
146 good, but 2023 doesn't need to be mentioned once, let alone twice, given the year is clear from the previous sentence
81 N "PSG won the Coupe de France" is not supported by the citation
175 good
205 good
26 N I don't think www.paris-canalhistorique.com is a reliable source—it seems more like a blog to me.
31 N Same for www.psg70.free.fr/
88 N "a tie amplified by the uncertainty surrounding Kylian Mbappé's future" is editorializing; the source does not say such a thing
25 N parisunited.fr appears to be a fan-published source, so not reliable
79 good
There are thus issues with 13 out of 20 citations spotchecked—a huge proportion, and a look at the "References" section reveals significant reliance on fan-published websites. This is not acceptable at GA, and the article will likely need a large rewrite to achieve the required quality of reliability and source-text integrity. I will put this nomination on hold until 3 April to see if the nominator, who has waited a long time for a review, feels that this judgement is unfair.
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (
talk)
16:04, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
AirshipJungleman29: The general analysis of the article and of the spotchecked sources seem to be accurate and fair to me. I can definetely fix everything you listed above in the next week, but fixing 65% of 212 citations is going to take more time than that.
Paul Vaurie (
talk)
22:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
OK. Would you be willing to re-open it (via direct request to you specifically) if all citation issues are dealt with in the near-ish future?
Paul Vaurie (
talk)
23:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
That works! Just FYI, I might get there this summer if I get to it at all. I nominated this article a while ago while I had more time, and these days I'm shorter on time. So, we'll see in a bit.
Paul Vaurie (
talk)
04:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.