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If you look at Monier-Williams's Sanskrit dictionary, [1] is referring to a heroic person and is not a word for "brave". Also, [2] has a variety of meanings - "in the highest degree" would appear to be the most suitable to use here. -- Grammatical error 17:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I see that you spelt it correctly whilst the title of the page and the reference to it are spelt incorrectly. It is Parama Veera Chakra not Param vir chakra. Can someone correct this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.147.224.225 ( talk) 18:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
You discuss the translation here but it doesn't seem to be in the article (unlike Maha Vir Chaka which is translated in the introduction). Although I realise that adjectives can be very hard to translate literally, I'd like to see an agreed English translation Epeeist smudge ( talk) 14:39, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
I have removed a large gallery of fair use images from this page. Please note that galleries of fair use images are not permitted. Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Kelly Martin2 for a lengthy discussion on the issue. BigDT 01:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
It is observed that two of the persons awarded this medal are having the same serial number. So one of them must be incorrect. I do not have the correct data to amend the same. 59.92.192.250 ( talk) 01:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Shibukottiyoor ( talk) 17:10, 2 June 2012 (UTC)it is not necessarily to redirect, you may be redirect the page "Param Vir Chakra" to " Param veera Chakra" since this is the exact name
Shibukottiyoor ( talk) 17:10, 2 June 2012 (UTC) we donnt know who has given the direction " Vir Chakara" instead of "Veera Chakra". so please change it.
Jai Hind
So Stefan2 went through each and every one of the portraits of the Param Vir Chakra receipients that I had uploaded from the Indian Army website [3] and set them up for speedy deletion. I am new to Wikipedia and while I am sure that these are in the Public Domain, can someone please upload them in the proper format with license and other info? Myopia123 ( talk) 17:26, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Could more experience editors please comment. Myopia123 ( talk) 20:14, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
So Shiv Aroor from | Live Fist Defence recently emailed his OTRS permission to use this image [4] to the permissions email account on commons. The image is to be used on the pages of the three living PVC recipients. However, the images I uploaded on commons have all just been deleted. What now? Do I need to reupload it with the ticket number or what? Myopia123 ( talk) 15:07, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Param Vir are not real words. They maybe some variant of the actual Sanskrit words. Should be Parama Veera or Vira Chakra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.119.177.171 ( talk) 18:45, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
When I was copyediting, I noticed that several parts from the lead were exactly repeated throughout the article, so I removed duplicates. CoolieCoolster ( talk) 05:10, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Hey, sorry my bad. I have self reverted. Thanks for your copy-edit. Adamgerber80 ( talk) 06:02, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I suggest that user:Krishna Chaitanya Velaga not add nonnotable trivia, to pad the article, now that it has been deprived of its list of recipients, a list that had stood in this article for upwards of ten years, until a few months ago. I will shortly give notable examples of KCV's nonnotable additions. Best regards, Fowler&fowler «Talk» 08:20, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
The award amount and pension benefits are exempted from income tax. In addition, different ministries under the Central Government have various awards for PVC winners. These include a first class /AC 2 tier Complimentary Pass to the awardee along with a companion from the Ministry of Railways, a 75% concession on economy fares by Indian Airlines, and no rental, installation or registration charges for the services of the Mahanagar Telephone Nigam (MTNL) telecommunications service provider. In addition, the awardee is exempted from the toll tax by the Ministry of Transport.
jibes with Wikipedia's guidelines about Encyclopedic content? Fowler&fowler «Talk» 08:59, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
Where is the evidence in the sources that these details have been given weight? It is the same with the bit about the cancelation of the award. Where in the secondary sources, preferably peer-reviewed secondary sources, is there evidence that weight has been assigned to something that appears to be a routine clause in any award? I see that you are engaging in edit wars. I won't revert again. I have already reverted twice, which is one more than the limit I usually observe, but I'm troubled that a poorly written article has been given the imprimatur of a Wikipedia label that, in my view, it doesn't deserve. I will shortly post some other issues I see with the article. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 10:57, 18 April 2017 (UTC)Information should not be included in this encyclopedia solely because it is true or useful. A Wikipedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details, but a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject. (See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rex071404) Verifiable and sourced statements should be treated with appropriate weight.
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‘The PVC is India's highest military decoration’ – If it is highest award on the Indian Order of Wear suggest deleting the adjective 'military'. Since the PVC is the highest award for wartime gallantry why is there a need compare it to the US MofH since many countries have such awards. It would be relevant to note it was replacing the British VC, awards are gazetted in the India Gazette and the colour of the ribbon is similar to the VC. The Order of Merit was introduced twenty years before the first gallantry awards for British forces including the VC. ‘During the First World War, the awards were classified based on the English traditions for senior officers, junior officers, and enlisted men’ – a deprecating comment about UK (not English) honours, poorly expressed and inaccurate. ‘Post independence, the British honours and awards informally came to an end’. – how do you end British awards informally since they are recommended by the independent Indian Government and gazetted in the London Gazette. ‘However, attempts to institute new awards for India to honour the war heroes of the 1947–1948 Indo-Pakistani War failed, as India was still a dominion’ – India was an independent country from 1947. Anthony Staunton ( talk) 14:54, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
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If you look at Monier-Williams's Sanskrit dictionary, [1] is referring to a heroic person and is not a word for "brave". Also, [2] has a variety of meanings - "in the highest degree" would appear to be the most suitable to use here. -- Grammatical error 17:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I see that you spelt it correctly whilst the title of the page and the reference to it are spelt incorrectly. It is Parama Veera Chakra not Param vir chakra. Can someone correct this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.147.224.225 ( talk) 18:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
You discuss the translation here but it doesn't seem to be in the article (unlike Maha Vir Chaka which is translated in the introduction). Although I realise that adjectives can be very hard to translate literally, I'd like to see an agreed English translation Epeeist smudge ( talk) 14:39, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
I have removed a large gallery of fair use images from this page. Please note that galleries of fair use images are not permitted. Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Kelly Martin2 for a lengthy discussion on the issue. BigDT 01:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
It is observed that two of the persons awarded this medal are having the same serial number. So one of them must be incorrect. I do not have the correct data to amend the same. 59.92.192.250 ( talk) 01:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Shibukottiyoor ( talk) 17:10, 2 June 2012 (UTC)it is not necessarily to redirect, you may be redirect the page "Param Vir Chakra" to " Param veera Chakra" since this is the exact name
Shibukottiyoor ( talk) 17:10, 2 June 2012 (UTC) we donnt know who has given the direction " Vir Chakara" instead of "Veera Chakra". so please change it.
Jai Hind
So Stefan2 went through each and every one of the portraits of the Param Vir Chakra receipients that I had uploaded from the Indian Army website [3] and set them up for speedy deletion. I am new to Wikipedia and while I am sure that these are in the Public Domain, can someone please upload them in the proper format with license and other info? Myopia123 ( talk) 17:26, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Could more experience editors please comment. Myopia123 ( talk) 20:14, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
So Shiv Aroor from | Live Fist Defence recently emailed his OTRS permission to use this image [4] to the permissions email account on commons. The image is to be used on the pages of the three living PVC recipients. However, the images I uploaded on commons have all just been deleted. What now? Do I need to reupload it with the ticket number or what? Myopia123 ( talk) 15:07, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Param Vir are not real words. They maybe some variant of the actual Sanskrit words. Should be Parama Veera or Vira Chakra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.119.177.171 ( talk) 18:45, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
When I was copyediting, I noticed that several parts from the lead were exactly repeated throughout the article, so I removed duplicates. CoolieCoolster ( talk) 05:10, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Hey, sorry my bad. I have self reverted. Thanks for your copy-edit. Adamgerber80 ( talk) 06:02, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I suggest that user:Krishna Chaitanya Velaga not add nonnotable trivia, to pad the article, now that it has been deprived of its list of recipients, a list that had stood in this article for upwards of ten years, until a few months ago. I will shortly give notable examples of KCV's nonnotable additions. Best regards, Fowler&fowler «Talk» 08:20, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
The award amount and pension benefits are exempted from income tax. In addition, different ministries under the Central Government have various awards for PVC winners. These include a first class /AC 2 tier Complimentary Pass to the awardee along with a companion from the Ministry of Railways, a 75% concession on economy fares by Indian Airlines, and no rental, installation or registration charges for the services of the Mahanagar Telephone Nigam (MTNL) telecommunications service provider. In addition, the awardee is exempted from the toll tax by the Ministry of Transport.
jibes with Wikipedia's guidelines about Encyclopedic content? Fowler&fowler «Talk» 08:59, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
Where is the evidence in the sources that these details have been given weight? It is the same with the bit about the cancelation of the award. Where in the secondary sources, preferably peer-reviewed secondary sources, is there evidence that weight has been assigned to something that appears to be a routine clause in any award? I see that you are engaging in edit wars. I won't revert again. I have already reverted twice, which is one more than the limit I usually observe, but I'm troubled that a poorly written article has been given the imprimatur of a Wikipedia label that, in my view, it doesn't deserve. I will shortly post some other issues I see with the article. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 10:57, 18 April 2017 (UTC)Information should not be included in this encyclopedia solely because it is true or useful. A Wikipedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details, but a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject. (See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rex071404) Verifiable and sourced statements should be treated with appropriate weight.
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‘The PVC is India's highest military decoration’ – If it is highest award on the Indian Order of Wear suggest deleting the adjective 'military'. Since the PVC is the highest award for wartime gallantry why is there a need compare it to the US MofH since many countries have such awards. It would be relevant to note it was replacing the British VC, awards are gazetted in the India Gazette and the colour of the ribbon is similar to the VC. The Order of Merit was introduced twenty years before the first gallantry awards for British forces including the VC. ‘During the First World War, the awards were classified based on the English traditions for senior officers, junior officers, and enlisted men’ – a deprecating comment about UK (not English) honours, poorly expressed and inaccurate. ‘Post independence, the British honours and awards informally came to an end’. – how do you end British awards informally since they are recommended by the independent Indian Government and gazetted in the London Gazette. ‘However, attempts to institute new awards for India to honour the war heroes of the 1947–1948 Indo-Pakistani War failed, as India was still a dominion’ – India was an independent country from 1947. Anthony Staunton ( talk) 14:54, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
🤛🤜🤛🤜🤛😖🤜🤜🤜 111.125.209.149 ( talk) 15:39, 21 July 2022 (UTC)