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I wanted to add a few things to the history section. For example, in Giza papyrus from Merer was found talking about Khufu's reign. Also, papyrus was still traded in Sicily and was exported from Egypt until the end of the eleventh century. I also wanted to add why Egypt created papyrus, because they had an abundance of the plant. In the manufacture and use section, I wanted to add specifics such as the width of the paper, how many papers averagely went into a scroll, and what came with a specific papyrus kit. Also, Pliny the Elder talked about gluing the strips together with muddy water. I wanted to add that in, even though it wasn't a common practice. - Zamughal —Preceding undated comment added 05:13, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
This article fails to mention the modern "Papyrus" font. If HTML is allowed here, let me show you Papyrus: This is the font Papyrus. Papyrus is a great font. AaBbCcDdEeFfGgHhIiJjKkLlMmNnOoPpQqRrSsTtUuVvWwXxYyZz - Wabty
Isn't papyrus made of the pith of the plant?
I see you ( Hajor) have accepted that the correct form here is the m-dash and not the dash. My own personal preference is to include spaces on each side of the m-dash as you have done. I point out, that while we both agree it looks much better, it is generally correct. I've just had to learn to live with an m-dash crowded into the text, as silly as that appears. But I'll not change your edit - Marshman 18:50, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The photo on the front of the page has a blank white page blocking the papyrus, and that seems a little disturbing. Should the picture be removed? Sycthos Talk 22:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Does the writer know why papyrus became extinct in Egypt? It is mentioned only in passing, but it seems a most extraordinary fact. NaySay 03:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
A little aside... Where we use velum for degree certificates, Egypt uses papyrus! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlin-UK ( talk • contribs) 13:36, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I changed the subtitle of the first picture (upper right) which had the same text in the subtitle as the second picture ("Papyrus plant Cyperus papyrus at Kew Gardens, London"), to the text which appears under the original picture in the picture gallery: "Papyrus plant growing in a garden, Australia". In any case, it certainly does not show Cyperus papyrus, so the old subtitle was wrong anyway.
Re: the change added by user 209.165.179.214 that added "Papyrus is also a small city off the Egyptian Coast?" - I have reverted your change for because I cannot find a reference to sucha city in a cursory search of Google. Also, if such a city does exist (perhaps it is spelled differently), that would be a separate article and should be referenced from the disambiguation page (not from this page). If the city exist and there is no page for it, feel free to start a new article. Tcncv ( talk) 02:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Should we mention that Papyrus is an invasive plant in Florida and causes problems there? 76.97.245.5 ( talk) 12:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
okay
I came to this page from http://xkcd.com/590/ wondering if anyone wants add a section in main article on usage of papyrus in typography.
Article understates papyrus production; it is still available from a number of art catalogues including Daniel Smith. Some of my paintings have been done on it, such as my gouache on papyrus The Blizzard ( http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs992.snc4/76496_10150298837015232_837005231_15926729_6524168_n.jpg). -- Daniel C. Boyer ( talk) 15:06, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
The following sentence in paragraph 3 of the History section doesn't make sense to me:
Papyrus was documented as in use as late as the 12th century in the Byzantine Empire, but examples have survived.
Shouldn't it say:
Papyrus was documented as in use as late as the 12th century in the Byzantine Empire, but no examples have survived.
Since it's an unsourced claim, we don't really know for sure... There's a citation-needed-tag from April 2010. I'm going to hunt around a little, see if I can confirm the info; if I can't, I'm going to remove it. Richigi ( talk) 17:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Could these links be added somewhere ("further reading" or "see also")
http://www.lib.umich.edu/papyrology-collection/how-ancient-papyrus-was-made
http://www.lib.umich.edu/papyrus_making/
Specially this
http://www.lib.umich.edu/papyrus_making/lg_intro.html
Very interesting and worthy of being included.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MurkMenthaa ( talk • contribs) 19:54, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
The article says : "bublos,[14] said to derive from the name of the Phoenician city of Byblos"
But : [1]
On a répété que βύβλος est purement et simplement le nom de la ville phénicienne de Byblos d'où le papyrus était importé (Lewy, Fremdwörter 172, Schwyzer, Gr. Gr. 1,141,153). La principale difficulté réside dans le fait que le nom, phénicien Gbl, akkadien Gublu, hébreux Gĕbal, fournirait difficilement un emprunt βύβλος ; on observe aussi que l'adjectif βύβλινος "en fibre de papyrus" est déjà dit pour un câble chez Homère. Aussi a-t-on pensé qu'il a existé un nom βύβλος "plante de papyrus" d'origine d'ailleurs obscure (Alessio, Studi Etruschi 18, 1944, 122-123). Discussion complète chez E. Masson, Emprunt sémitiques, 101-107.
Sorry, I can't correct the article because my english is poor.
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Is there any information on the amount of work required to make it and about prices of papyrus in antiquity? Especially as compared with the price of other common goods and/or with how much people usually earned in their work? -- 89.182.55.3 ( talk) 15:58, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
The article contradicts itself on whether or not papyrus is cheaper than parchment.
vs.
So is using papyrus for books cheaper than parchment or not? If it's not a plain contradiction, then my best guess as to what's meant is that's cheaper to use local parchment in (mainland) Europe, but papyrus is cheaper in Egypt and more generally the Mediterranean.
I can't clarify it because the books I have also go back and forth on parchment codexes being cheaper or not than papyrus scrolls, and the popularity of papyrus scrolls really puzzles me in general. Mysticfurywerewolf ( talk) 05:13, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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It would be interesting for the article to mention early reed stylus and carbon/oil inks used to write on papyrus. — Paleo Neonate – 11:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Are there any more significant writings that have been written on papyrus that can be added to this article to give more examples? That section of the article is currently very short. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.185.96.232 ( talk) 04:30, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
'dropings — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2404:7A81:2C0:EF00:5031:8BBD:79AB:45B0 ( talk) 11:35, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
undertale reference lol Marikirfan ( talk) 02:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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I wanted to add a few things to the history section. For example, in Giza papyrus from Merer was found talking about Khufu's reign. Also, papyrus was still traded in Sicily and was exported from Egypt until the end of the eleventh century. I also wanted to add why Egypt created papyrus, because they had an abundance of the plant. In the manufacture and use section, I wanted to add specifics such as the width of the paper, how many papers averagely went into a scroll, and what came with a specific papyrus kit. Also, Pliny the Elder talked about gluing the strips together with muddy water. I wanted to add that in, even though it wasn't a common practice. - Zamughal —Preceding undated comment added 05:13, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
This article fails to mention the modern "Papyrus" font. If HTML is allowed here, let me show you Papyrus: This is the font Papyrus. Papyrus is a great font. AaBbCcDdEeFfGgHhIiJjKkLlMmNnOoPpQqRrSsTtUuVvWwXxYyZz - Wabty
Isn't papyrus made of the pith of the plant?
I see you ( Hajor) have accepted that the correct form here is the m-dash and not the dash. My own personal preference is to include spaces on each side of the m-dash as you have done. I point out, that while we both agree it looks much better, it is generally correct. I've just had to learn to live with an m-dash crowded into the text, as silly as that appears. But I'll not change your edit - Marshman 18:50, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The photo on the front of the page has a blank white page blocking the papyrus, and that seems a little disturbing. Should the picture be removed? Sycthos Talk 22:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Does the writer know why papyrus became extinct in Egypt? It is mentioned only in passing, but it seems a most extraordinary fact. NaySay 03:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
A little aside... Where we use velum for degree certificates, Egypt uses papyrus! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlin-UK ( talk • contribs) 13:36, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I changed the subtitle of the first picture (upper right) which had the same text in the subtitle as the second picture ("Papyrus plant Cyperus papyrus at Kew Gardens, London"), to the text which appears under the original picture in the picture gallery: "Papyrus plant growing in a garden, Australia". In any case, it certainly does not show Cyperus papyrus, so the old subtitle was wrong anyway.
Re: the change added by user 209.165.179.214 that added "Papyrus is also a small city off the Egyptian Coast?" - I have reverted your change for because I cannot find a reference to sucha city in a cursory search of Google. Also, if such a city does exist (perhaps it is spelled differently), that would be a separate article and should be referenced from the disambiguation page (not from this page). If the city exist and there is no page for it, feel free to start a new article. Tcncv ( talk) 02:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Should we mention that Papyrus is an invasive plant in Florida and causes problems there? 76.97.245.5 ( talk) 12:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
okay
I came to this page from http://xkcd.com/590/ wondering if anyone wants add a section in main article on usage of papyrus in typography.
Article understates papyrus production; it is still available from a number of art catalogues including Daniel Smith. Some of my paintings have been done on it, such as my gouache on papyrus The Blizzard ( http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs992.snc4/76496_10150298837015232_837005231_15926729_6524168_n.jpg). -- Daniel C. Boyer ( talk) 15:06, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
The following sentence in paragraph 3 of the History section doesn't make sense to me:
Papyrus was documented as in use as late as the 12th century in the Byzantine Empire, but examples have survived.
Shouldn't it say:
Papyrus was documented as in use as late as the 12th century in the Byzantine Empire, but no examples have survived.
Since it's an unsourced claim, we don't really know for sure... There's a citation-needed-tag from April 2010. I'm going to hunt around a little, see if I can confirm the info; if I can't, I'm going to remove it. Richigi ( talk) 17:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Could these links be added somewhere ("further reading" or "see also")
http://www.lib.umich.edu/papyrology-collection/how-ancient-papyrus-was-made
http://www.lib.umich.edu/papyrus_making/
Specially this
http://www.lib.umich.edu/papyrus_making/lg_intro.html
Very interesting and worthy of being included.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MurkMenthaa ( talk • contribs) 19:54, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
The article says : "bublos,[14] said to derive from the name of the Phoenician city of Byblos"
But : [1]
On a répété que βύβλος est purement et simplement le nom de la ville phénicienne de Byblos d'où le papyrus était importé (Lewy, Fremdwörter 172, Schwyzer, Gr. Gr. 1,141,153). La principale difficulté réside dans le fait que le nom, phénicien Gbl, akkadien Gublu, hébreux Gĕbal, fournirait difficilement un emprunt βύβλος ; on observe aussi que l'adjectif βύβλινος "en fibre de papyrus" est déjà dit pour un câble chez Homère. Aussi a-t-on pensé qu'il a existé un nom βύβλος "plante de papyrus" d'origine d'ailleurs obscure (Alessio, Studi Etruschi 18, 1944, 122-123). Discussion complète chez E. Masson, Emprunt sémitiques, 101-107.
Sorry, I can't correct the article because my english is poor.
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The article contradicts itself on whether or not papyrus is cheaper than parchment.
vs.
So is using papyrus for books cheaper than parchment or not? If it's not a plain contradiction, then my best guess as to what's meant is that's cheaper to use local parchment in (mainland) Europe, but papyrus is cheaper in Egypt and more generally the Mediterranean.
I can't clarify it because the books I have also go back and forth on parchment codexes being cheaper or not than papyrus scrolls, and the popularity of papyrus scrolls really puzzles me in general. Mysticfurywerewolf ( talk) 05:13, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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It would be interesting for the article to mention early reed stylus and carbon/oil inks used to write on papyrus. — Paleo Neonate – 11:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Are there any more significant writings that have been written on papyrus that can be added to this article to give more examples? That section of the article is currently very short. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.185.96.232 ( talk) 04:30, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
'dropings — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2404:7A81:2C0:EF00:5031:8BBD:79AB:45B0 ( talk) 11:35, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
undertale reference lol Marikirfan ( talk) 02:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)