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On 17 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Papua New Guinea national soccer team. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
On 23 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Papua New Guinea men's national soccer team. The result of the discussion was Moved, in part. |
What's the reason for lowest position of Papua on FIFA World Rankings (situation as of 2009) ? I understand 203th place for Anguilla, Montserrat, American Samoa, i also can understand it for San Marino... But Papua ? It's real not the weakest FIFA team. Is it due to the reason that PNG was disqualified for 2010 World Cup ? -- 79.49.34.93 ( talk) 14:20, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Lol, Papua's most capped played "Richard Daniel" redirects to a German general...doesn't seem very likely. Oleg Morgan 14:43, 25 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.39.242 ( talk)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 ( talk) 15:46, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Papua New Guinea national football team → Papua New Guinea national soccer team – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. 207.136.8.135 ( talk) 11:46, 17 June 2022 (UTC) The sport, like in Australia, is called "soccer" in Papua New Guinea; the Tok Pisin name for the sport is "soka" and the Australian, South African, Canadian and American teams are all called "X national soccer team". Possibly the same for New Zealand, Fiji, the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, etc which also call it "soccer". 207.136.8.135 ( talk) 11:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Afghanistan national football team which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 15:31, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved, in part. There is a consensus to change "football" to "soccer". There is no consensus to add "men's", but there is also no prejudice to a separate nomination on this basis. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre ( talk) 16:30, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Due to Australian influence, the term "soccer" is much more common in PNG than "football" due to the presence of other codes of football. Furthermore, PNG's rugby and Australian rules football sides are much more successful than their soccer sides. PNG's national soccer league is even called the Papua New Guinea National Soccer League, and in Tok Pisin soka means "soccer". I propose that all articles about soccer in PNG be moved to say "soccer" not "football" unless they're officially named as such (e.g Papua New Guinea Football Association). I also propose that a similar policy to WP:MOSFIA (i.e terminology for football codes in Australia, one of which is "soccer") be adopted for Papua New Guinea. QLDer in NSW ( talk) 20:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 01:34, 1 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal ( talk) 00:56, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Clear consensus to change "football" to "soccer". However, there is no consensus on whether "men's" should also be added; relisting to allow that question to be considered directly.
BilledMammal (
talk) 00:56, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Now that consensus on Support has been gained and the articles moved, what happens now about their associated categories and templates, which to me are in exactly the same boat? Looking at the equivalent categories for Australia, which is more formally under a naming policy in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia), those such categories are also 'soccer' not 'football'. Can these be simply moved at this point (as the articles relating to that category have just been changed), or do they need the same process applied from scratch?
Matilda Maniac ( talk) 12:08, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
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On 17 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Papua New Guinea national soccer team. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
On 23 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Papua New Guinea men's national soccer team. The result of the discussion was Moved, in part. |
What's the reason for lowest position of Papua on FIFA World Rankings (situation as of 2009) ? I understand 203th place for Anguilla, Montserrat, American Samoa, i also can understand it for San Marino... But Papua ? It's real not the weakest FIFA team. Is it due to the reason that PNG was disqualified for 2010 World Cup ? -- 79.49.34.93 ( talk) 14:20, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Lol, Papua's most capped played "Richard Daniel" redirects to a German general...doesn't seem very likely. Oleg Morgan 14:43, 25 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.39.242 ( talk)
File:PNGFA Logo.svg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a non-free use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
-- Marchjuly ( talk) 02:23, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 ( talk) 15:46, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Papua New Guinea national football team → Papua New Guinea national soccer team – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. 207.136.8.135 ( talk) 11:46, 17 June 2022 (UTC) The sport, like in Australia, is called "soccer" in Papua New Guinea; the Tok Pisin name for the sport is "soka" and the Australian, South African, Canadian and American teams are all called "X national soccer team". Possibly the same for New Zealand, Fiji, the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, etc which also call it "soccer". 207.136.8.135 ( talk) 11:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Afghanistan national football team which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 15:31, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved, in part. There is a consensus to change "football" to "soccer". There is no consensus to add "men's", but there is also no prejudice to a separate nomination on this basis. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre ( talk) 16:30, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Due to Australian influence, the term "soccer" is much more common in PNG than "football" due to the presence of other codes of football. Furthermore, PNG's rugby and Australian rules football sides are much more successful than their soccer sides. PNG's national soccer league is even called the Papua New Guinea National Soccer League, and in Tok Pisin soka means "soccer". I propose that all articles about soccer in PNG be moved to say "soccer" not "football" unless they're officially named as such (e.g Papua New Guinea Football Association). I also propose that a similar policy to WP:MOSFIA (i.e terminology for football codes in Australia, one of which is "soccer") be adopted for Papua New Guinea. QLDer in NSW ( talk) 20:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 01:34, 1 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal ( talk) 00:56, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Clear consensus to change "football" to "soccer". However, there is no consensus on whether "men's" should also be added; relisting to allow that question to be considered directly.
BilledMammal (
talk) 00:56, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Now that consensus on Support has been gained and the articles moved, what happens now about their associated categories and templates, which to me are in exactly the same boat? Looking at the equivalent categories for Australia, which is more formally under a naming policy in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia), those such categories are also 'soccer' not 'football'. Can these be simply moved at this point (as the articles relating to that category have just been changed), or do they need the same process applied from scratch?
Matilda Maniac ( talk) 12:08, 17 November 2023 (UTC)