This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Pretty sure he is not a famous Georgian poet. Not an expert here myself - if anyone is, please correct. Thanks. -- 70.42.54.162 ( talk) 16:51, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Pretty sure his hat is a Papakhi, see http://www.russianheadwear.com/index.php Lumos3 ( talk) 22:17, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Brezhnev was the patty-hat (shapka-pirozhok, шапка-пирожок) fan actualy. It has the form of side cap. I know it, cause I'm Russian. We never call hats of this style as "papakha", believe me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.132.114.169 ( talk) 12:57, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Dear Wkipedia Users,
The Papakh comes from an Azeri Turkic version of the original Turkic word Papaq the difference is Azerbaijani speakers use x instead of k which in turn makes sense as Azeri Turkic was lingua-franca of Caucasian region before Russian campaign. Also several Azeris Scholars have noted that Papakh has originated in Azerbaijan and was very famous attire of men, even till modern days the papakh is seen as symbol of masculinity and wisdom — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.210.156.150 ( talk) 06:52, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
This section has been altered several times by Armenians, who keep deleting my sources for Azeri Turkic origin of the word and literally "shoving" Armenia here as well as unrecognized N/K. Papakh is clearly a Turkic word and even if the item itself is of Caucasian origin the word is Azeri Turkic! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.26.53.243 ( talk) 06:09, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
First of all, I did not change the word but i took it from the Russian Wikipedia where it states that Papakha is Azeri Turkic word, It comes from word Papakh, the source is one of the earliest pre-Soviet encyclopedias second of all stop deleting Section with Azerbaijan and doing your best to erase anything that has Azerbaijan there. If you do not stop i will report you for vandalism. Moreover, please check i updated both claims from iranicaonline.com, i hope no more questions or claims remain!
Dear User, First of all lets start with your source. 1) Constant use of Nagorno Karabagh- First of all the author in the book does not refer to N/K as an entity but a geographical location however, there is a problem with your source since it is biased and is against the Neutral point of view regarding the N/K issue. Her constant use of incorrect political terms such as "Armenia and Karabagh" does give a false opinion to the reader as if the Karabagh is a separate region. N/K is a de-facto and de-jure part of Azerbaijan and is not even recognized by Armenia, as well Shushi is only used by Armenians while in the common terms the word Shusha is used. Adding to that Azerbaijan and Turkey are barely even mentioned which again makes this source as heavily biased to Armenian side which again conflicts with the Neutral point of View of Wikipedia. In case you desire to always use Nagorno Karabagh as separate you should also mention Dagestan, Checnya, Ossetia and other Russian entities since they wear papakha more often than Armenians. 3) Word Papkha even though you don't like it is an Azeri Turkic word, It should be clear that in Azerbaijan they use word Papaq and Papkha is derivative from that,i'm also wondering since when the official vocabularies are not as reliable source? if not please find other sources that state that [1] [2] [3] "Three Azeri men donning traditional hats called papakhas."also i included iranicaonline.com where it states that Papaq is worn in Azerbaijan however you also deleted that source instead of keeping it! which itself is an edit war and vandalism however i will not revert the edits but raise this question with dispute resolution! Last but no least, Andranik is a national hero in Armenia but separatist in Turkey and Azerbaijan here i would advise just keeping him as general or his army rank since it is fine with me. Agulani ( talk) 06:39, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
References
Lavtxa777 is removing sourced information about hat's Turkic origin and about how it's worn throughout Caucasus by replacing "Papaqs are very important to mountainous peoples’ of the Caucasus" with "Papakha are very common in Armenia as well as other mountainous regions". Stop edit-warring and read WP:NPOV and WP:RS. — CuriousGolden (T· C) 16:09, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Pretty sure he is not a famous Georgian poet. Not an expert here myself - if anyone is, please correct. Thanks. -- 70.42.54.162 ( talk) 16:51, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Pretty sure his hat is a Papakhi, see http://www.russianheadwear.com/index.php Lumos3 ( talk) 22:17, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Brezhnev was the patty-hat (shapka-pirozhok, шапка-пирожок) fan actualy. It has the form of side cap. I know it, cause I'm Russian. We never call hats of this style as "papakha", believe me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.132.114.169 ( talk) 12:57, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Dear Wkipedia Users,
The Papakh comes from an Azeri Turkic version of the original Turkic word Papaq the difference is Azerbaijani speakers use x instead of k which in turn makes sense as Azeri Turkic was lingua-franca of Caucasian region before Russian campaign. Also several Azeris Scholars have noted that Papakh has originated in Azerbaijan and was very famous attire of men, even till modern days the papakh is seen as symbol of masculinity and wisdom — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.210.156.150 ( talk) 06:52, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
This section has been altered several times by Armenians, who keep deleting my sources for Azeri Turkic origin of the word and literally "shoving" Armenia here as well as unrecognized N/K. Papakh is clearly a Turkic word and even if the item itself is of Caucasian origin the word is Azeri Turkic! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.26.53.243 ( talk) 06:09, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
First of all, I did not change the word but i took it from the Russian Wikipedia where it states that Papakha is Azeri Turkic word, It comes from word Papakh, the source is one of the earliest pre-Soviet encyclopedias second of all stop deleting Section with Azerbaijan and doing your best to erase anything that has Azerbaijan there. If you do not stop i will report you for vandalism. Moreover, please check i updated both claims from iranicaonline.com, i hope no more questions or claims remain!
Dear User, First of all lets start with your source. 1) Constant use of Nagorno Karabagh- First of all the author in the book does not refer to N/K as an entity but a geographical location however, there is a problem with your source since it is biased and is against the Neutral point of view regarding the N/K issue. Her constant use of incorrect political terms such as "Armenia and Karabagh" does give a false opinion to the reader as if the Karabagh is a separate region. N/K is a de-facto and de-jure part of Azerbaijan and is not even recognized by Armenia, as well Shushi is only used by Armenians while in the common terms the word Shusha is used. Adding to that Azerbaijan and Turkey are barely even mentioned which again makes this source as heavily biased to Armenian side which again conflicts with the Neutral point of View of Wikipedia. In case you desire to always use Nagorno Karabagh as separate you should also mention Dagestan, Checnya, Ossetia and other Russian entities since they wear papakha more often than Armenians. 3) Word Papkha even though you don't like it is an Azeri Turkic word, It should be clear that in Azerbaijan they use word Papaq and Papkha is derivative from that,i'm also wondering since when the official vocabularies are not as reliable source? if not please find other sources that state that [1] [2] [3] "Three Azeri men donning traditional hats called papakhas."also i included iranicaonline.com where it states that Papaq is worn in Azerbaijan however you also deleted that source instead of keeping it! which itself is an edit war and vandalism however i will not revert the edits but raise this question with dispute resolution! Last but no least, Andranik is a national hero in Armenia but separatist in Turkey and Azerbaijan here i would advise just keeping him as general or his army rank since it is fine with me. Agulani ( talk) 06:39, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
References
Lavtxa777 is removing sourced information about hat's Turkic origin and about how it's worn throughout Caucasus by replacing "Papaqs are very important to mountainous peoples’ of the Caucasus" with "Papakha are very common in Armenia as well as other mountainous regions". Stop edit-warring and read WP:NPOV and WP:RS. — CuriousGolden (T· C) 16:09, 27 January 2021 (UTC)