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I would not follow Kitchener et al. in subsuming most mainland tigers into one subspecies. It is an important manuscript, but it is bassically one opinion on tiger systematics. Even if Siberian tigers and Bengal tigers are closely related, they are clearly different. I would stick for the next two years at least to the old systematics. Tradition over new opinons. I think most people will be very confused and we have to keep in mind, that any classification is always a human perspective and will never show the real picture. More importantly Wikipedia should reflect sience and not influence it. Best regards,-- Altaileopard ( talk) 14:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
The term is used in the following:
It seems to be gaining traction and there is no other common name that I have seen used. — Jts1882 | talk 11:09, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Right now, the taxoboxes on all the articles about Panthera tigris tigris populations except Caspian tiger are simply incorrect, since the target of the taxobox is the same for all of them, yet they are discussing different taxonomic units. Using the wrong taxobox has several consequences:
Since we don't have an automated taxobox for populations, all the taxoboxes need to be changed to manual ones as per
Caspian tiger as of now.
Peter coxhead (
talk)
07:38, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
(P.S. if there were enough articles on populations of subspecies, an automated taxobox template could be written, but I doubt there are enough to justify it.)
@
Jts1882,
Plantdrew,
BhagyaMani,
SilverTiger12, and
YorkshireExpat: pinging relevant editors.
Peter coxhead (
talk)
07:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Barbary lion | |
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Scientific classification
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Domain: | Eukaryota |
Kingdom: | Animalia |
Phylum: | Chordata |
Class: | Mammalia |
Order: | Carnivora |
Suborder: | Feliformia |
Family: | Felidae |
Subfamily: | Pantherinae |
Genus: | Panthera |
Species: |
P. leo |
Subspecies: | P. l. leo |
Population: | †Barbary lion |
{{Population taxobox |genus = Panthera |species = leo |subspecies = leo |population = Barbary lion |extinct=yes }}
|population_name=
parameter to change the rank column (e.g. for Conservation unit). Also, should the trinomial should be suppressed? —
Jts1882 |
talk
08:56, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
|status=EX
(if using a conservation status) or |extinct=yes
(now in example). The extinct symbol is currently added to the taxobox header, which I'm unsure about.
(partim)
to the trimonomial but I think this overcomplicates things. —
Jts1882 |
talk
14:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
|subspecies=
in the pop box. KUDOS to you!!–
BhagyaMani (
talk)
14:25, 12 January 2022 (UTC)|species_link=
(and maybe also |subspecies_link=
)?|synonyms=
?
Plantdrew (
talk)
23:21, 12 January 2022 (UTC)|subspecies=
empty! You can add images + maps using the same paras as in the other boxes. –
BhagyaMani (
talk)
07:29, 13 January 2022 (UTC)|subspecies=
. It works without, although that was somewhat fortuitous the way I'd originally set it up.|subheader=
as done in the Barbary lion example in {{
Population_taxobox/doc}}.|species_link=
and |subspecies_link=
) really needed. Redirects should be there is most cases. It's easy enough to add if wanted.|infraspecies_rank=
collection of parameters, as well as for zoological terms like forms and morphs.
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I would not follow Kitchener et al. in subsuming most mainland tigers into one subspecies. It is an important manuscript, but it is bassically one opinion on tiger systematics. Even if Siberian tigers and Bengal tigers are closely related, they are clearly different. I would stick for the next two years at least to the old systematics. Tradition over new opinons. I think most people will be very confused and we have to keep in mind, that any classification is always a human perspective and will never show the real picture. More importantly Wikipedia should reflect sience and not influence it. Best regards,-- Altaileopard ( talk) 14:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
The term is used in the following:
It seems to be gaining traction and there is no other common name that I have seen used. — Jts1882 | talk 11:09, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Right now, the taxoboxes on all the articles about Panthera tigris tigris populations except Caspian tiger are simply incorrect, since the target of the taxobox is the same for all of them, yet they are discussing different taxonomic units. Using the wrong taxobox has several consequences:
Since we don't have an automated taxobox for populations, all the taxoboxes need to be changed to manual ones as per
Caspian tiger as of now.
Peter coxhead (
talk)
07:38, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
(P.S. if there were enough articles on populations of subspecies, an automated taxobox template could be written, but I doubt there are enough to justify it.)
@
Jts1882,
Plantdrew,
BhagyaMani,
SilverTiger12, and
YorkshireExpat: pinging relevant editors.
Peter coxhead (
talk)
07:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Barbary lion | |
---|---|
Scientific classification
![]() | |
Domain: | Eukaryota |
Kingdom: | Animalia |
Phylum: | Chordata |
Class: | Mammalia |
Order: | Carnivora |
Suborder: | Feliformia |
Family: | Felidae |
Subfamily: | Pantherinae |
Genus: | Panthera |
Species: |
P. leo |
Subspecies: | P. l. leo |
Population: | †Barbary lion |
{{Population taxobox |genus = Panthera |species = leo |subspecies = leo |population = Barbary lion |extinct=yes }}
|population_name=
parameter to change the rank column (e.g. for Conservation unit). Also, should the trinomial should be suppressed? —
Jts1882 |
talk
08:56, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
|status=EX
(if using a conservation status) or |extinct=yes
(now in example). The extinct symbol is currently added to the taxobox header, which I'm unsure about.
(partim)
to the trimonomial but I think this overcomplicates things. —
Jts1882 |
talk
14:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
|subspecies=
in the pop box. KUDOS to you!!–
BhagyaMani (
talk)
14:25, 12 January 2022 (UTC)|species_link=
(and maybe also |subspecies_link=
)?|synonyms=
?
Plantdrew (
talk)
23:21, 12 January 2022 (UTC)|subspecies=
empty! You can add images + maps using the same paras as in the other boxes. –
BhagyaMani (
talk)
07:29, 13 January 2022 (UTC)|subspecies=
. It works without, although that was somewhat fortuitous the way I'd originally set it up.|subheader=
as done in the Barbary lion example in {{
Population_taxobox/doc}}.|species_link=
and |subspecies_link=
) really needed. Redirects should be there is most cases. It's easy enough to add if wanted.|infraspecies_rank=
collection of parameters, as well as for zoological terms like forms and morphs.