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There is no evidence about pan-arab signification on both Southern Sudan and Somaliland flags Somaliland Southern Sudan
Arab League User ( talk) 18:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
The flag of Afghanistan is surely another example:
-- Tom Anderson 2008-01-22 2002 +0000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.40.81.23 ( talk) 20:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Hope your kidding, those colours are completely different nor is Afghanistan an Arab nation. Akmal94 ( talk) 02:53, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
Are you trolling or what? The Afghan flag does not use Pan-Arab colours, it has black, red and green and the emblem doesn't count. The flag itself was inspired by the Tri-colours of the German flag when King Amanullah Khan visited Germany in 1928. So no, we are not going to add Afghanistan into the list because its flag is of completely different origins than that of the Pan-Arab flag. Akmal94 ( talk) 01:31, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Where is Ahwaz? There is no country called Ahwaz. There is an Iranian city by the name Ahvaz. If there is a secessionist movement in that city or region, almost no one has heard of it. Also, the flag is not recognized anywhere. Either the picture needs to be taken off or a disclaimer needs to be added. mrjahan —Preceding comment was added at 21:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
In what possible sense is Andalucia's flag related to Pan Arab colours? It has Green & White in an unrelated pattern. While perhaps arguably tied back to Andalucia's Islamic heritage that does not make it "Pan Arab" I am removing. collounsbury ( talk) 16:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Eventhough the Lebanese flag contains red and green their meaning and reason of using them is not related in any way to the pan arabic colors —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atmleb ( talk • contribs) 23:52, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
How about the flags of other countries which also contain black, white, green, and red, like the Flag of South Africa? Does a country have to be considered an "Arab country" for its colors to be considered "pan-Arab colors"? -- 98.210.210.193 ( talk) 07:02, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Flag of South Sudan does not have Pan-Arab background but Pan_African meaning.Colors are similar but the meaning is completely different. The colours are said to represent the South Sudanese people (black), peace (white), the blood shed for freedom (red), the land (green) and the waters of the Nile (blue); the gold star, the Star of Bethlehem, represents unity of the states of South Sudan. So it should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.148.44.228 ( talk) 14:49, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
The flag of Libya since the 1951 - 1969 will be the official flag for Libya, which is under the Pan-Arab colors section. Please do not add the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya flag into the Arab Flags not using Pan-Arab colors section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.144.157.10 ( talk) 07:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
As far as we know, neither were ethnically Arab (see their respective pages). However, a certain user with the IP 109.146.36.38 claims that they became Arab (which apparently justifies their inclusion in this article). Unless sources that backs up these claims are provided, I plan to remove these two flags. Best, -- Spivorg ( talk) 17:35, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
I would like to have editors' opinions about adding some non-national flags to this article:
Flags used by political parties and military organisations
Head of states standards
Regards,
--
Omar-toons (
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00:44, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
According to many sources, the current flag of Libya isn't linked by any way to Pan-Arabism, but is linked instead to Libya's own history and to the historical colors/flags of its provinces. [1] [2] [3]
Also, we can note that the official description on Libya's Constitution doesn't cite any Pan-Arab meaning for that flag. [4]
Thus, describing it as "with Pan-Arab colors" ir clearly WP:OR.
Regards,
--
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23:30, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
The continual reverts by Omar-toons are causing immense disruption to this page. Now numbering around two dozen, these reverts by Omar-Toons have been aggressive, confrontational, and in very bad faith (including false accusations of sock puppetry).
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Omar-toons edit warring is characterised by a combination of complete reverts, complete reverts plus new contentious edits, complete rejection of previously existing text or any linguistic improvements to intro text.
As Omar-toons' almost two dozen reverts demonstrate, he has adopted a very aggressive, bad faith and confrontational approach in an effort to force through his own edits in the absence of consensus. He rejects overtures to take the issues to Talk, and instead responds with false accusations of sock puppetry (without offering any evidence). After his edit warring was referred to as vandalism, he used that same term to refer to others who were attempting to conserve the existing text.
Page protection was requested yesterday (both for and against Omar-toons), however, Callanecc directed the issue to this noticeboard. The details for the page protection requests (which explain the substance of the problem) are below: 2.28.240.160 ( talk) 11:56, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent disruptive editing and adding of WP:OR information by a dynamic IP user (a user who claims that each IP is a different user, while it is clearly the same one) -- Omar-toons ( talk) 01:40, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
As I was reading Jasim Musawi's "Reading Iraq: Culture and Power in Conflict", the author says page 63 that the 1959 Iraqi flag wasn't linked to Pan-Arabism but the opposite: as it was instaured by the 1959 Iraqi nationalists, the flag was referring to Iraq's nationhood as opposed to Pan-Arabism.
Any refs to give the opposite statement, i.e. that 1959 Iraqi flag was linked to Pan-Arabism?
Regards,
--
Omar-toons (
talk)
00:40, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
I have removed a number of flags actually which do not qualify (See recent edit log page). Reason is clear. I noticed that some flags used in gallery that do not contain all the Arab colours, but only three. These flags do not qualify. Why the gallery of flags utilizing three colours but omitting one. This is arbitrary use of criterion. If that is the case, why don't we have Lebanese flag that uses three colours (white, red, green) but omits the black. Lebanon is utilizing three colours, isn't it? Same with Oman. It has three colours (white red and green, but omits black). So why Oman and Lebanon are excluded? Yet Yemen (utilizing white red and black but excluding green) is included. What's so special about Yemen that does not apply to Oman or Lebanon? The case of some other flags was even more questionable. The gallery included flags with two or three Arab colours (not all four), but includes a non-Arab colour... These flags do not qualify either but on much stronger grounds. First, not all Arab colours are there Two They are using some other colour as well like light blue or yellow or as in case of Egypt gold. Egyptian flag is clearly not a flag utilizing all Arab colours. Having said that, I am in favour of opening a new section entitled "Current flags with partial usage of the four Pan-Arab colors". Three Arab colours would be one subsection, two Arab colours a second sub-section if you will. In such cases, Lebanon, Oman, Egypt, Yemen would qualify so as a number of other Arab former flags. As for flags with a non-Arab colour, I leave it to your judgement, but I am in favour of three Arab colour flag section at least werldwayd ( talk) 16:21, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
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There is no evidence about pan-arab signification on both Southern Sudan and Somaliland flags Somaliland Southern Sudan
Arab League User ( talk) 18:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
The flag of Afghanistan is surely another example:
-- Tom Anderson 2008-01-22 2002 +0000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.40.81.23 ( talk) 20:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Hope your kidding, those colours are completely different nor is Afghanistan an Arab nation. Akmal94 ( talk) 02:53, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
Are you trolling or what? The Afghan flag does not use Pan-Arab colours, it has black, red and green and the emblem doesn't count. The flag itself was inspired by the Tri-colours of the German flag when King Amanullah Khan visited Germany in 1928. So no, we are not going to add Afghanistan into the list because its flag is of completely different origins than that of the Pan-Arab flag. Akmal94 ( talk) 01:31, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Where is Ahwaz? There is no country called Ahwaz. There is an Iranian city by the name Ahvaz. If there is a secessionist movement in that city or region, almost no one has heard of it. Also, the flag is not recognized anywhere. Either the picture needs to be taken off or a disclaimer needs to be added. mrjahan —Preceding comment was added at 21:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
In what possible sense is Andalucia's flag related to Pan Arab colours? It has Green & White in an unrelated pattern. While perhaps arguably tied back to Andalucia's Islamic heritage that does not make it "Pan Arab" I am removing. collounsbury ( talk) 16:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Eventhough the Lebanese flag contains red and green their meaning and reason of using them is not related in any way to the pan arabic colors —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atmleb ( talk • contribs) 23:52, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
How about the flags of other countries which also contain black, white, green, and red, like the Flag of South Africa? Does a country have to be considered an "Arab country" for its colors to be considered "pan-Arab colors"? -- 98.210.210.193 ( talk) 07:02, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Flag of South Sudan does not have Pan-Arab background but Pan_African meaning.Colors are similar but the meaning is completely different. The colours are said to represent the South Sudanese people (black), peace (white), the blood shed for freedom (red), the land (green) and the waters of the Nile (blue); the gold star, the Star of Bethlehem, represents unity of the states of South Sudan. So it should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.148.44.228 ( talk) 14:49, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
The flag of Libya since the 1951 - 1969 will be the official flag for Libya, which is under the Pan-Arab colors section. Please do not add the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya flag into the Arab Flags not using Pan-Arab colors section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.144.157.10 ( talk) 07:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
As far as we know, neither were ethnically Arab (see their respective pages). However, a certain user with the IP 109.146.36.38 claims that they became Arab (which apparently justifies their inclusion in this article). Unless sources that backs up these claims are provided, I plan to remove these two flags. Best, -- Spivorg ( talk) 17:35, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
I would like to have editors' opinions about adding some non-national flags to this article:
Flags used by political parties and military organisations
Head of states standards
Regards,
--
Omar-toons (
talk)
00:44, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
According to many sources, the current flag of Libya isn't linked by any way to Pan-Arabism, but is linked instead to Libya's own history and to the historical colors/flags of its provinces. [1] [2] [3]
Also, we can note that the official description on Libya's Constitution doesn't cite any Pan-Arab meaning for that flag. [4]
Thus, describing it as "with Pan-Arab colors" ir clearly WP:OR.
Regards,
--
Omar-toons (
talk)
23:30, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
The continual reverts by Omar-toons are causing immense disruption to this page. Now numbering around two dozen, these reverts by Omar-Toons have been aggressive, confrontational, and in very bad faith (including false accusations of sock puppetry).
It is necessary to address this problem now before any further disruption is caused.
Omar-toons edit warring is characterised by a combination of complete reverts, complete reverts plus new contentious edits, complete rejection of previously existing text or any linguistic improvements to intro text.
As Omar-toons' almost two dozen reverts demonstrate, he has adopted a very aggressive, bad faith and confrontational approach in an effort to force through his own edits in the absence of consensus. He rejects overtures to take the issues to Talk, and instead responds with false accusations of sock puppetry (without offering any evidence). After his edit warring was referred to as vandalism, he used that same term to refer to others who were attempting to conserve the existing text.
Page protection was requested yesterday (both for and against Omar-toons), however, Callanecc directed the issue to this noticeboard. The details for the page protection requests (which explain the substance of the problem) are below: 2.28.240.160 ( talk) 11:56, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent disruptive editing and adding of WP:OR information by a dynamic IP user (a user who claims that each IP is a different user, while it is clearly the same one) -- Omar-toons ( talk) 01:40, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
As I was reading Jasim Musawi's "Reading Iraq: Culture and Power in Conflict", the author says page 63 that the 1959 Iraqi flag wasn't linked to Pan-Arabism but the opposite: as it was instaured by the 1959 Iraqi nationalists, the flag was referring to Iraq's nationhood as opposed to Pan-Arabism.
Any refs to give the opposite statement, i.e. that 1959 Iraqi flag was linked to Pan-Arabism?
Regards,
--
Omar-toons (
talk)
00:40, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
I have removed a number of flags actually which do not qualify (See recent edit log page). Reason is clear. I noticed that some flags used in gallery that do not contain all the Arab colours, but only three. These flags do not qualify. Why the gallery of flags utilizing three colours but omitting one. This is arbitrary use of criterion. If that is the case, why don't we have Lebanese flag that uses three colours (white, red, green) but omits the black. Lebanon is utilizing three colours, isn't it? Same with Oman. It has three colours (white red and green, but omits black). So why Oman and Lebanon are excluded? Yet Yemen (utilizing white red and black but excluding green) is included. What's so special about Yemen that does not apply to Oman or Lebanon? The case of some other flags was even more questionable. The gallery included flags with two or three Arab colours (not all four), but includes a non-Arab colour... These flags do not qualify either but on much stronger grounds. First, not all Arab colours are there Two They are using some other colour as well like light blue or yellow or as in case of Egypt gold. Egyptian flag is clearly not a flag utilizing all Arab colours. Having said that, I am in favour of opening a new section entitled "Current flags with partial usage of the four Pan-Arab colors". Three Arab colours would be one subsection, two Arab colours a second sub-section if you will. In such cases, Lebanon, Oman, Egypt, Yemen would qualify so as a number of other Arab former flags. As for flags with a non-Arab colour, I leave it to your judgement, but I am in favour of three Arab colour flag section at least werldwayd ( talk) 16:21, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
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