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OK, can we get this issue settled please. The source clearly states ATR crash is PIA's tenth hull loss since 2000. That is ten hull losses from all causes. Yet it keeps getting changed to state only seven, despite the headline of the article used as a reference. When I first added the information, I was careful to point out that one hull loss was due to weather damage, two were due to terrorism and seven were due to crashes. Pinging @ YSSYguy: and @ Aizads: as involved parties. Mjroots ( talk) 12:15, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
The summary is too broad. What should we change it to? Tntad ( talk) 04:32, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Hold on guys. How is "engine failure" already listed as the cause of the crash? Planes can fly just fine on even one of the two engines. And the main body of the article stating that one engine failure caused enough damage to the left wing that the aircraft became impossible to fly.... is false. There is no concrete evidence for this. Neither the BEA (French) or the SIB (Pakistan) have stated this in any clear terms. I recommend changing the cause of this investigation to "engine failure issues, investigation ongoing."
AND edit the main body of the article to say that the investigation is on going. No one knows for sure yet if the wing was damaged beyond flying ability from one engine failing. The investigation is still ongoing. Here is the BEA page link: https://www.bea.aero/en/investigation-reports/notified-events/detail/event/accident-to-the-atr-42-registered-ap-bho-operated-by-pakistan-international-airlines-on-07122016-at-havelian-investigation-led-by-aib-pakistan/
There is no conclusive reason yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.230.78.38 ( talk) 05:39, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
The Aircraft Accident Investigation Board of Pakistan has published its final report of their investigation of the crash. Mjroots ( talk) 20:01, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
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OK, can we get this issue settled please. The source clearly states ATR crash is PIA's tenth hull loss since 2000. That is ten hull losses from all causes. Yet it keeps getting changed to state only seven, despite the headline of the article used as a reference. When I first added the information, I was careful to point out that one hull loss was due to weather damage, two were due to terrorism and seven were due to crashes. Pinging @ YSSYguy: and @ Aizads: as involved parties. Mjroots ( talk) 12:15, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
The summary is too broad. What should we change it to? Tntad ( talk) 04:32, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Hold on guys. How is "engine failure" already listed as the cause of the crash? Planes can fly just fine on even one of the two engines. And the main body of the article stating that one engine failure caused enough damage to the left wing that the aircraft became impossible to fly.... is false. There is no concrete evidence for this. Neither the BEA (French) or the SIB (Pakistan) have stated this in any clear terms. I recommend changing the cause of this investigation to "engine failure issues, investigation ongoing."
AND edit the main body of the article to say that the investigation is on going. No one knows for sure yet if the wing was damaged beyond flying ability from one engine failing. The investigation is still ongoing. Here is the BEA page link: https://www.bea.aero/en/investigation-reports/notified-events/detail/event/accident-to-the-atr-42-registered-ap-bho-operated-by-pakistan-international-airlines-on-07122016-at-havelian-investigation-led-by-aib-pakistan/
There is no conclusive reason yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.230.78.38 ( talk) 05:39, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
The Aircraft Accident Investigation Board of Pakistan has published its final report of their investigation of the crash. Mjroots ( talk) 20:01, 18 November 2020 (UTC)