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The result of the move request was: Moved to Painted redstart. It has been demonstrated that "redstart" satisfies WP:COMMONNAME by a significant margin. While the IOC and IUCN prefer "whitestart" , their weight is still not sufficient to tip the balance over. No such user ( talk) 12:38, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Painted whitestart → Painted redstart – "redstart" is used far, far more commonly for this species than "whitestart". Of the sources used on this page, the only one to use "whitestart" is from the IUCN, a European-based organisation. On Google Scholar, a search finds 7 results for "painted whitestart" since 2017, all of which are barely relevant. "Painted redstart" gives 74 results, of which the first 4 include the name in the title. I know Google searches can be misleading, but a search for "painted whitestart" gives very few useful results - just Wikipedia, and BirdLife, another European-based organisation (plus eBird which does not use it as the primary name). The first page results also includes a rejected proposal to change the name of species in this genus to "whitestart", and random links to Pinterest and a Youtube video. Meanwhile a search for "painted redstart" returns all the most relevant sources for North American birds and you don't really start finding junk until the third page of results. I have 11 books on the shelf next to me that mention species in this genus, mostly field guides for various areas. 9 use "redstart" exclusively, 1 uses "redstart" but mentions "whitestart", and only one uses "whitestart" primarily, but mentions that "redstart" is commonly used in N America. I think probably this whole genus should be at "redstart" pages, but that's a little less clear when they occur almost exclusively in Spanish-speaking areas. But this species has quite an extensive range into English-speaking areas and it seems pretty clear that "redstart" is way more common and using "whitestart" violates WP:CommonName. Somatochlora ( talk) 18:16, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved to Painted redstart. It has been demonstrated that "redstart" satisfies WP:COMMONNAME by a significant margin. While the IOC and IUCN prefer "whitestart" , their weight is still not sufficient to tip the balance over. No such user ( talk) 12:38, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Painted whitestart → Painted redstart – "redstart" is used far, far more commonly for this species than "whitestart". Of the sources used on this page, the only one to use "whitestart" is from the IUCN, a European-based organisation. On Google Scholar, a search finds 7 results for "painted whitestart" since 2017, all of which are barely relevant. "Painted redstart" gives 74 results, of which the first 4 include the name in the title. I know Google searches can be misleading, but a search for "painted whitestart" gives very few useful results - just Wikipedia, and BirdLife, another European-based organisation (plus eBird which does not use it as the primary name). The first page results also includes a rejected proposal to change the name of species in this genus to "whitestart", and random links to Pinterest and a Youtube video. Meanwhile a search for "painted redstart" returns all the most relevant sources for North American birds and you don't really start finding junk until the third page of results. I have 11 books on the shelf next to me that mention species in this genus, mostly field guides for various areas. 9 use "redstart" exclusively, 1 uses "redstart" but mentions "whitestart", and only one uses "whitestart" primarily, but mentions that "redstart" is commonly used in N America. I think probably this whole genus should be at "redstart" pages, but that's a little less clear when they occur almost exclusively in Spanish-speaking areas. But this species has quite an extensive range into English-speaking areas and it seems pretty clear that "redstart" is way more common and using "whitestart" violates WP:CommonName. Somatochlora ( talk) 18:16, 7 October 2021 (UTC)