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The statement "Any marker with a hammer, however, has a significant firing delay when compared to a full electropneumatic." is inaccurate. What defines a "full electropneumatic"? A marker that uses a solenoid to control the whole firing cycle would be an accurate definition. The author of this statement was possibly thinking of spool valve markers. Markers like the Intimidator, Ego, Angel and Cyborg all use hammers and are also fully electropneumatic. Their hammers are controlled by a pneumatic cylinder and solenoid, and the hammer is used to open the poppet.
Also, the so-called "firing delay" is measured from what? A term could be lock time which is used in firearms to determine the time from when the sear is disengaged to when the primer is ignited. In a marker, this could be the time from when the sear is dropped or other firing sequence is initiated to when the valve of the marker is fully open, whether that valve is a spool or poppet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.188.82.72 ( talk) 06:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Information about paintball pistols needs to be added. 22:40, 10 October 2006 Maximilli
-- Compulsion 21:53, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
02:44, 12 October 2005 RJFJR
68.40.188.13 19:00, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Hah, when it first appeared, barrel porting was supposed to actually make the gun -- pardon, MARKER (ok, ok, but come on, identity politics gets old) ahem, supposed to make them actually rifle the paintballs...which, nah. Think about the physics: paintballs are fired by a burst of air smacking them in the ass, royt? Ironically, if anything, porting only ends up causing loss of pressure and thus...lower velocity. Which means you turn up your air. Which means you're wasting air. I can't speak for the auditory levels of ported barrels versus non, but (and I'll find a better cite than my own old-school self) I actually own what was "determined" (not through science, but by consensus, I think) the best option -- minor porting at the end of the barrel. Yep, my Lapco Bigshot. They still make those? Anyone want a used 'Cocker, that said? I -- oh, uh, wrong forum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.75.149 ( talk) 18:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
The paintball is able to move farther at a lower speed, This is physically impossible. Can someone with knowledge of the device fix this? Otherwise I'm going to delete that statement. Range is a function of speed for a given mass. Slower = shorter range, unless you're shooting in a higher trajectory. Mzmadmike 15:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
if your talking about the flatline (which i think you are), the backspin creates a sort of lift, which helps it go farther, about the lower speed part, i'm not sure but i'm guessing that inducing the spin slows the paintball down, but the spin itself creates the lift which carries it further. tell me if i'm wrong.
peace- Three ways round 02:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Anyone have an idea as to the standardization of Paintball equipment? For example, who decided to use UNF threading and why will almost any tank go in any marker?
There seems to be a changing list of external links. It appears as though links are added by those promoting a site (albeit, some of the sites are useful), competitors delete them and add their own links, and the cycle continues. What standard should be used for external links? Until this question is resolved, I reverted the deletion of two external links. Although I hesitated to revert the deletion of pntball.com, a commercial site, it seemed inconsistent to leave the other commercial sites (all the other external links are commercial, advertisement based or direct sellers). Does anyone else have a suggestion regarding how to proceed on this question? Aarondanhall 14:16, 23 October 2007 (CST)
The Paintball WikiProject has been created. Please take a moment to visit its page, and join if you are interested. Thanks! - Maximilli, 19:04, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Requests, questions, and answers about pictures of markers go here.
I'm going to try to get some pics up, but first I have to actually take them, and then figure out the different licenses..... Or maybe with enough cajoling, I'll put them up without any license.
I'll take some pics of my Tippmann 98 Custom (or a model 98, whichever you all would prefer), and mabye of my BE (Brass Eagle) Tiger Shark. I will add the C98 (or M98) to the Tippmann article as well, if that is proper.
I can also take pics of my co2 tanks, of the stock model 98 barrel, a M98 Flatline, a carbon, and a J&J barrel.
That is, if they are needed, as the different parts of a paintball marker. The Editor 2 01:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
It might be beneficial to insert a section on the history of these devices. Who invented the first one, what it was used for, the development of the device, how they came to be used in games, etc. I heard they were originally used for marking trees for lumbering, but have no idea if this is true.
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That is true, but I don't have details. Anyone? I believe the device was called a nelspot.
Also, there's a lot of jargon on this page that needs links or elaboration. I fixed a couple, but I'm a rifle shooter, not a paintballer, and don't want to edit things I don't know. Mzmadmike 15:20, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I would like for you to consider adding my website (www.PaintBallsOfFury.com) as an external link to this page. This will give your readers a place to see what types of equipment are available. Thank you for your consideration.
Chad Hefton funnthesun@windstream.net chad.hefton@acxiom.com 501-514-5287 198.160.96.7 ( talk) 21:08, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
I've never heard these referred to as "paintball markers", which I assume is the hobbyist terminology. A Google search for "paintball gun" returns over 4 million hits while "paintball marker" returns less than 2 million. In other words usage is roughly 2:1 in favor of "paintball gun". Why is this article named "paintball marker" instead of "paintball gun"? Even if "marker" is the preferred terminology in hobbyist circles, this article title seems to violate at least the the recognizability and naturalness conditions of WP:NAMINGCRITERIA. As per WP:COMMONNAME, I quote, "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's 'official' name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." I'm guessing that this article should be renamed. Jason Quinn ( talk) 19:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Biodegradable paintballs, reballs (wooden) also exist, see http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/155975-post23.html
mention in article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:12E1:8E00:B178:EE7F:FEAA:7D63 ( talk) 08:11, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
This article has huge screeds of unsupported technical opinions that get in the way of simple discription. It needs to be boiled down or referenced up. Jmackaerospace ( talk) 16:25, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
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I’ve been playing paintball since 1983. I just came across this video of Salvador Dali on the Ed Sullivan Show of January 29, 1961 using an “animal tranquilizer gun” made by Harold “Red” Palmer, of Georgia, to shoot paint capsules onto canvas. The marker appears to be a CAP-CHUR brand Short Range Pistol Type Projector model using a paint-filled aero syringe. We may need a better source.
YouTube Ed Sullivan show Jan.29, 1961
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The statement "Any marker with a hammer, however, has a significant firing delay when compared to a full electropneumatic." is inaccurate. What defines a "full electropneumatic"? A marker that uses a solenoid to control the whole firing cycle would be an accurate definition. The author of this statement was possibly thinking of spool valve markers. Markers like the Intimidator, Ego, Angel and Cyborg all use hammers and are also fully electropneumatic. Their hammers are controlled by a pneumatic cylinder and solenoid, and the hammer is used to open the poppet.
Also, the so-called "firing delay" is measured from what? A term could be lock time which is used in firearms to determine the time from when the sear is disengaged to when the primer is ignited. In a marker, this could be the time from when the sear is dropped or other firing sequence is initiated to when the valve of the marker is fully open, whether that valve is a spool or poppet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.188.82.72 ( talk) 06:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Information about paintball pistols needs to be added. 22:40, 10 October 2006 Maximilli
-- Compulsion 21:53, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
02:44, 12 October 2005 RJFJR
68.40.188.13 19:00, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Hah, when it first appeared, barrel porting was supposed to actually make the gun -- pardon, MARKER (ok, ok, but come on, identity politics gets old) ahem, supposed to make them actually rifle the paintballs...which, nah. Think about the physics: paintballs are fired by a burst of air smacking them in the ass, royt? Ironically, if anything, porting only ends up causing loss of pressure and thus...lower velocity. Which means you turn up your air. Which means you're wasting air. I can't speak for the auditory levels of ported barrels versus non, but (and I'll find a better cite than my own old-school self) I actually own what was "determined" (not through science, but by consensus, I think) the best option -- minor porting at the end of the barrel. Yep, my Lapco Bigshot. They still make those? Anyone want a used 'Cocker, that said? I -- oh, uh, wrong forum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.75.149 ( talk) 18:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
The paintball is able to move farther at a lower speed, This is physically impossible. Can someone with knowledge of the device fix this? Otherwise I'm going to delete that statement. Range is a function of speed for a given mass. Slower = shorter range, unless you're shooting in a higher trajectory. Mzmadmike 15:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
if your talking about the flatline (which i think you are), the backspin creates a sort of lift, which helps it go farther, about the lower speed part, i'm not sure but i'm guessing that inducing the spin slows the paintball down, but the spin itself creates the lift which carries it further. tell me if i'm wrong.
peace- Three ways round 02:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Anyone have an idea as to the standardization of Paintball equipment? For example, who decided to use UNF threading and why will almost any tank go in any marker?
There seems to be a changing list of external links. It appears as though links are added by those promoting a site (albeit, some of the sites are useful), competitors delete them and add their own links, and the cycle continues. What standard should be used for external links? Until this question is resolved, I reverted the deletion of two external links. Although I hesitated to revert the deletion of pntball.com, a commercial site, it seemed inconsistent to leave the other commercial sites (all the other external links are commercial, advertisement based or direct sellers). Does anyone else have a suggestion regarding how to proceed on this question? Aarondanhall 14:16, 23 October 2007 (CST)
The Paintball WikiProject has been created. Please take a moment to visit its page, and join if you are interested. Thanks! - Maximilli, 19:04, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Requests, questions, and answers about pictures of markers go here.
I'm going to try to get some pics up, but first I have to actually take them, and then figure out the different licenses..... Or maybe with enough cajoling, I'll put them up without any license.
I'll take some pics of my Tippmann 98 Custom (or a model 98, whichever you all would prefer), and mabye of my BE (Brass Eagle) Tiger Shark. I will add the C98 (or M98) to the Tippmann article as well, if that is proper.
I can also take pics of my co2 tanks, of the stock model 98 barrel, a M98 Flatline, a carbon, and a J&J barrel.
That is, if they are needed, as the different parts of a paintball marker. The Editor 2 01:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
It might be beneficial to insert a section on the history of these devices. Who invented the first one, what it was used for, the development of the device, how they came to be used in games, etc. I heard they were originally used for marking trees for lumbering, but have no idea if this is true.
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Septegram*
Talk*
Contributions*
22:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
That is true, but I don't have details. Anyone? I believe the device was called a nelspot.
Also, there's a lot of jargon on this page that needs links or elaboration. I fixed a couple, but I'm a rifle shooter, not a paintballer, and don't want to edit things I don't know. Mzmadmike 15:20, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I would like for you to consider adding my website (www.PaintBallsOfFury.com) as an external link to this page. This will give your readers a place to see what types of equipment are available. Thank you for your consideration.
Chad Hefton funnthesun@windstream.net chad.hefton@acxiom.com 501-514-5287 198.160.96.7 ( talk) 21:08, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
I've never heard these referred to as "paintball markers", which I assume is the hobbyist terminology. A Google search for "paintball gun" returns over 4 million hits while "paintball marker" returns less than 2 million. In other words usage is roughly 2:1 in favor of "paintball gun". Why is this article named "paintball marker" instead of "paintball gun"? Even if "marker" is the preferred terminology in hobbyist circles, this article title seems to violate at least the the recognizability and naturalness conditions of WP:NAMINGCRITERIA. As per WP:COMMONNAME, I quote, "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's 'official' name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." I'm guessing that this article should be renamed. Jason Quinn ( talk) 19:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Biodegradable paintballs, reballs (wooden) also exist, see http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/155975-post23.html
mention in article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:12E1:8E00:B178:EE7F:FEAA:7D63 ( talk) 08:11, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
This article has huge screeds of unsupported technical opinions that get in the way of simple discription. It needs to be boiled down or referenced up. Jmackaerospace ( talk) 16:25, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
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I’ve been playing paintball since 1983. I just came across this video of Salvador Dali on the Ed Sullivan Show of January 29, 1961 using an “animal tranquilizer gun” made by Harold “Red” Palmer, of Georgia, to shoot paint capsules onto canvas. The marker appears to be a CAP-CHUR brand Short Range Pistol Type Projector model using a paint-filled aero syringe. We may need a better source.
YouTube Ed Sullivan show Jan.29, 1961
user:JohnVR4 IP signed 72.238.86.168 ( talk) 14:24, 29 July 2021 (UTC)