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It looks like the answer to this question is no, unless any other Wikipedians know differently. However, Torquay in Devon has a namesake in Australia, see [1].-- Ianmacm 20:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I doubt there are any other paigntons, as the spelling comes from a mistake by a GWR signwriter, according to legend. there might be one or two paingtons, though. Totnesmartin 20:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Torquay in Canada is in Saskatchewan, and seems to be quite small. It does not currently have a Wikipedia article, but there is a map (not very detailed) at [2].
I have not been able to find anywhere else in the world called Paignton or Paington from a web search, so the mystery continues.-- Ianmacm 21:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
The photographs have been updated to include some sand as requested.-- Ianmacm 13:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I removed the claim that Agatha Christie based Hercule Poirot on her experiences in Paignton during World War One, as there is little evidence that this is true. She has been said to have based Poirot on Belgian refugees that she met in Torquay during this period, but there may also have been other influences from crime fiction. See Agatha Christie - A Biography by Janet Morgan ( ISBN 0-00-216330-6) for more details.-- Ianmacm 17:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Rather than edit warring, it would be better to have a WP:CONSENSUS on which images are needed. There are quite a few images of Paignton on Commons, but they do not all need to be in the article, particularly if the subject has a separate main article. Some thoughts:
There needs to be a balance of text and images, not a jumble of images from Commons and other articles.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:23, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
There is a recipe in the Project Gutenberg citation. [3] This is a more suitable place than giving recipes in the article.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:15, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Would reinstating the section on the Paignton pudding without reference to all three recipes, or a quote/reference to the gutenberg text be acceptable? I'm puzzled as to why the entire section was deleted, this is an intriguing piece of local history, quirky and the source of the local nickname. Surely it deserves its own section.
I suggest:
"The Paignton pudding was first made in the 13th Century when King John gave Paignton a charter to become a town. It was noted in 1630 to have once been an annual custom that had become less frequent, apparently being made every fifty years to be distributed amongst the poor of the parish. In 1819 a large pudding was recorded and described as "An enormous messy pudding". This pudding took four days to boil in the copper brewing kettle of the Crown and Anchor Inn. The people of Paignton acquired the nickname of pudden eaters when thousands turned up hoping to obtain a piece of a huge pudding that had been baked to celebrate the arrival of the railway in 1859. [1] It was recorded as weighing 1.5 tons measuring 13 feet 6 inches (4.11 m) arond the base and 5 feet (1.5 m) around the top and baked by a local baker, Mr Evans. A Paignton Pudding was baked in 1968 to celebrate the town's charter, and another was baked in 2006 to mark the 200th anniversary of the birth of the engineer Isambard Kingdom Brunel"
Which includes the history but not the, admitedly overkill, recipes.
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Re this edit: I'm not sure if this is notable enough for a mention. John Gosling of The Kinks does not have a blue plaque in the town, and nor is he seen as a key figure in the town's history. This comes across as a random fact about The Kinks, rather than something that a person needs to know about Paignton. If John Gosling (The Kinks musician) is not notable enough for his own BLP article, he isn't really one of Paignton's notable residents. See WP:TOPIC.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:00, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I've got stuck while trying to find the results for Torbay for the European Parliament election, 2014. The best source was here but is for the whole of the south west. The 2009 results are a dead link. Help requested here.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:37, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
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Re this edit: As a general rule, a Wikipedia article about a town does not need to list all of the schools, churches, sports clubs etc. This leads to problems with WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Unless there is coverage in secondary sources, notability is not established.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) Paignton does have the largest primary school in Devon, Oldway, with 700 pupils and further education establishment just short of university status. You has better cast your deletist eyes to Torquay and Brixham. REVUpminster ( talk) 08:58, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
I have added this but difficult to cite as the wording, slightly changed, comes from a photo I took of the poster explaining the skeleton in the Torquay Museum when I saw it April 2019. REVUpminster ( talk) 10:55, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
The figures are wrong. For some reason the government figures are using Cockington, Edginswell as if they were in Paignton arriving at a figure of 67520 and Torquay 52035 which reverses the sizes of the two towns. REVUpminster ( talk) 16:08, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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It looks like the answer to this question is no, unless any other Wikipedians know differently. However, Torquay in Devon has a namesake in Australia, see [1].-- Ianmacm 20:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I doubt there are any other paigntons, as the spelling comes from a mistake by a GWR signwriter, according to legend. there might be one or two paingtons, though. Totnesmartin 20:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Torquay in Canada is in Saskatchewan, and seems to be quite small. It does not currently have a Wikipedia article, but there is a map (not very detailed) at [2].
I have not been able to find anywhere else in the world called Paignton or Paington from a web search, so the mystery continues.-- Ianmacm 21:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
The photographs have been updated to include some sand as requested.-- Ianmacm 13:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I removed the claim that Agatha Christie based Hercule Poirot on her experiences in Paignton during World War One, as there is little evidence that this is true. She has been said to have based Poirot on Belgian refugees that she met in Torquay during this period, but there may also have been other influences from crime fiction. See Agatha Christie - A Biography by Janet Morgan ( ISBN 0-00-216330-6) for more details.-- Ianmacm 17:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Rather than edit warring, it would be better to have a WP:CONSENSUS on which images are needed. There are quite a few images of Paignton on Commons, but they do not all need to be in the article, particularly if the subject has a separate main article. Some thoughts:
There needs to be a balance of text and images, not a jumble of images from Commons and other articles.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:23, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
There is a recipe in the Project Gutenberg citation. [3] This is a more suitable place than giving recipes in the article.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:15, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Would reinstating the section on the Paignton pudding without reference to all three recipes, or a quote/reference to the gutenberg text be acceptable? I'm puzzled as to why the entire section was deleted, this is an intriguing piece of local history, quirky and the source of the local nickname. Surely it deserves its own section.
I suggest:
"The Paignton pudding was first made in the 13th Century when King John gave Paignton a charter to become a town. It was noted in 1630 to have once been an annual custom that had become less frequent, apparently being made every fifty years to be distributed amongst the poor of the parish. In 1819 a large pudding was recorded and described as "An enormous messy pudding". This pudding took four days to boil in the copper brewing kettle of the Crown and Anchor Inn. The people of Paignton acquired the nickname of pudden eaters when thousands turned up hoping to obtain a piece of a huge pudding that had been baked to celebrate the arrival of the railway in 1859. [1] It was recorded as weighing 1.5 tons measuring 13 feet 6 inches (4.11 m) arond the base and 5 feet (1.5 m) around the top and baked by a local baker, Mr Evans. A Paignton Pudding was baked in 1968 to celebrate the town's charter, and another was baked in 2006 to mark the 200th anniversary of the birth of the engineer Isambard Kingdom Brunel"
Which includes the history but not the, admitedly overkill, recipes.
References
{{
cite web}}
: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (
link)
Re this edit: I'm not sure if this is notable enough for a mention. John Gosling of The Kinks does not have a blue plaque in the town, and nor is he seen as a key figure in the town's history. This comes across as a random fact about The Kinks, rather than something that a person needs to know about Paignton. If John Gosling (The Kinks musician) is not notable enough for his own BLP article, he isn't really one of Paignton's notable residents. See WP:TOPIC.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:00, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I've got stuck while trying to find the results for Torbay for the European Parliament election, 2014. The best source was here but is for the whole of the south west. The 2009 results are a dead link. Help requested here.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:37, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
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Re this edit: As a general rule, a Wikipedia article about a town does not need to list all of the schools, churches, sports clubs etc. This leads to problems with WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Unless there is coverage in secondary sources, notability is not established.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) Paignton does have the largest primary school in Devon, Oldway, with 700 pupils and further education establishment just short of university status. You has better cast your deletist eyes to Torquay and Brixham. REVUpminster ( talk) 08:58, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
I have added this but difficult to cite as the wording, slightly changed, comes from a photo I took of the poster explaining the skeleton in the Torquay Museum when I saw it April 2019. REVUpminster ( talk) 10:55, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
The figures are wrong. For some reason the government figures are using Cockington, Edginswell as if they were in Paignton arriving at a figure of 67520 and Torquay 52035 which reverses the sizes of the two towns. REVUpminster ( talk) 16:08, 14 August 2023 (UTC)