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Merge proposal
The content in the new
Toowong Ward (1994–2016) article would better placed here for context and to avoid overlap with the History section here, which already discusses the ward during this period. Boundary changes are common, even without name changes, and the overlap seems large enough that the content is best discussed here.
Klbrain (
talk)
10:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
There are a couple of concerns I've flagged with taking this approach. Firstly, as there are multiple other former BCC ward articles, it would be a bit inconsistent for this one ward to merged with a current ward. I would suggest that instead, any information that isn't explicitly relevant to the Paddington Ward be removed from its history section, with a link directing to the Toowong Ward article. Specifically regarding the history of councillors, though the Toowong Ward incumbent (Peter Matic) ran for Paddington when it was created, this was officially officially a new ward created due to the majority of Toowong's area becoming part of
Walter Taylor Ward.
As merging this would set a precedent that other former wards should be merged, this would quickly raise issues of what current ward each one 'belongs' to – especially looking back to elections where the number of wards changed. Specifically for Toowong, we have its creation in 1994 from parts of the former Paddington (second incarnation) and Taringa Wards, with the remainder of each going to other wards. This gets even more complicated with the creation of these two wards. They were made for the 1985 election – when the number of wards went from 21 to 26 – with Taringa created from parts of the former
Auchenflower and Indooroopilly Wards, and the second Paddington created from parts of Auchenflower and Baroona Wards.
More generally, keeping former ward articles is more consistent with how former/abolished electoral areas are handled at other levels of government in Australia. A very relevant example of this is the state districts that overlap Paddington Ward:
Cooper,
Maiwar, and
McConnel. These were all created for the
2017 election, with them predominantly formed from the abolished districts of
Ashgrove,
Indooroopilly, and
Brisbane Central respectively. Much like Peter Matic contesting Paddington in 2016, each of the three MPs of the abolished districts contested the new districts. However, despite this they are treated as fully separate electoral districts, with the abolished districts having full articles rather than just being part of the current district histories.
Baker235 (
talk)
02:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)reply
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Australia and
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Merge proposal
The content in the new
Toowong Ward (1994–2016) article would better placed here for context and to avoid overlap with the History section here, which already discusses the ward during this period. Boundary changes are common, even without name changes, and the overlap seems large enough that the content is best discussed here.
Klbrain (
talk)
10:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
There are a couple of concerns I've flagged with taking this approach. Firstly, as there are multiple other former BCC ward articles, it would be a bit inconsistent for this one ward to merged with a current ward. I would suggest that instead, any information that isn't explicitly relevant to the Paddington Ward be removed from its history section, with a link directing to the Toowong Ward article. Specifically regarding the history of councillors, though the Toowong Ward incumbent (Peter Matic) ran for Paddington when it was created, this was officially officially a new ward created due to the majority of Toowong's area becoming part of
Walter Taylor Ward.
As merging this would set a precedent that other former wards should be merged, this would quickly raise issues of what current ward each one 'belongs' to – especially looking back to elections where the number of wards changed. Specifically for Toowong, we have its creation in 1994 from parts of the former Paddington (second incarnation) and Taringa Wards, with the remainder of each going to other wards. This gets even more complicated with the creation of these two wards. They were made for the 1985 election – when the number of wards went from 21 to 26 – with Taringa created from parts of the former
Auchenflower and Indooroopilly Wards, and the second Paddington created from parts of Auchenflower and Baroona Wards.
More generally, keeping former ward articles is more consistent with how former/abolished electoral areas are handled at other levels of government in Australia. A very relevant example of this is the state districts that overlap Paddington Ward:
Cooper,
Maiwar, and
McConnel. These were all created for the
2017 election, with them predominantly formed from the abolished districts of
Ashgrove,
Indooroopilly, and
Brisbane Central respectively. Much like Peter Matic contesting Paddington in 2016, each of the three MPs of the abolished districts contested the new districts. However, despite this they are treated as fully separate electoral districts, with the abolished districts having full articles rather than just being part of the current district histories.
Baker235 (
talk)
02:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)reply