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Corrected lead paragraph to show Pacific Surfliner as the second busiest Amtrak route, behind the Northeast Corridor, at least for the month of January 2006. [1] Previously, both the Capitol Corridor and the Pacific Surfliner page claimed that each route was the third busiest (see further discussion at Talk:Capitol Corridor). Also, in the same sentence, changed the NEC reference from Acela (which is an article about just the Acela brand name) to Northeast Corridor, since technically both the Acela/Metroliner service and the Regional service surpass the California routes. - Comodude 03:25, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
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Could someone help out with the station articles that have yet to be made. I'm not from California, so I don't know about the stations, so if anyone is familiar with them, please create good articles. I can always help improve them. Geoking66 04:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
The reason why the route map is displayed outsidethe infobox is that it doesn't display correctly when inside it. It ends up with gaps between each line segment. Tompw ( talk) ( review) 16:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I think it's an IE-specific issue, because Firefox and Opera don't have this problem. Using IE 6, I found zooming out one level eliminated the issue altogether. Making the text smaller might fix the problem too, but I'm not sure how to "fix" it for just one browser. Mackensen (talk) 17:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
The Pacific Surfliner now serves Metrolink's station at Laguna Niguel / Mission Viejo, right? I think this should be added. The Interloafer ( talk) 15:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
The 3.09 million figure is unsubstantiated in either of the references. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the FY2009 has not ended just yet. In the meantime, I will post up the 2.89 million figure for FY2008. Facial ( talk) 23:41, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
I stand corrected. The FY2009 period ended Sept. 30th, and new figures are up. Facial ( talk) 02:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
This is akin to a trivia section, or listing accidents on the 405 freeway. A quick look at the San Joaquins and Capitol Corridor routes gives some perspective on the proper layout of an article.
An encyclopedia should be a summary of information about a subject, and thus, listing accidents should not be included. Facial ( talk) 00:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
This article could benefit greatly from the addition and expansion of a dedicated "History" (as seen in the California Zephyr article though its a bit unorganized there]] and "Proposed Expansions" section (as seen in the Capitol Corridor article). Socalres ( talk) 01:44, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
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Interactive map contains the misspelling "Surt" for the coastal location Surf. 99.103.247.221 ( talk) 15:29, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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@ Mjdestroyerofworlds: Just noting that the stations table you added in late December, 2019 is pretty awful in MOS:ACCESS terms, in its uses of 'rowspan'.
I don't intend to do anything about this imminently, and I'll likely think about it some more, but it strikes me that the most obvious "fixes" are to eliminate the 'County' column, and probably move the "defunct" stations out of the table (into a separate list or table), and then move the 'Service began' column to the left-side of the table.
Consider this a heads up... -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 01:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
I propose that we eliminate the former stations (Anaheim, Orange, Laguna Niguel/Mission Viejo, Carlsbad Village, Carlsbad Poinsettia, Encinitas, and Sorrento Valley) from the table and infobox map. We should continue to mention them in the prose of the page and on the individual station pages. Here's my reasoning: these stations were served for a brief period of time (4-6 years), they had very limited service (in most cases, they were only served by a few trains) and they were more of a trial addition for Rail2Rail passengers, meaning the station stop was more meant for Metrolink or Coaster pass holders, and weren't actively marketed to Amtrak customers. WP:INFOBOX states that infoboxes should, "...summarize key facts that appear in the article. The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance." I think that same idea can be applied to station tables too, and I do not believe stations served for a brief time, by few trains as part of a trial program... does not meet that threshold of "key facts" that readers need to see at a glance. -- RickyCourtney ( talk) 17:18, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
@ RickyCourtney: I don't really agree with some of your recent edits, particularly this and this. The information about longer consists and former equipment is both cited and relevant, as is the mileage and municipality of stations. All of that is standard on comparable articles - why do you think it should be removed here? Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 21:05, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Corrected lead paragraph to show Pacific Surfliner as the second busiest Amtrak route, behind the Northeast Corridor, at least for the month of January 2006. [1] Previously, both the Capitol Corridor and the Pacific Surfliner page claimed that each route was the third busiest (see further discussion at Talk:Capitol Corridor). Also, in the same sentence, changed the NEC reference from Acela (which is an article about just the Acela brand name) to Northeast Corridor, since technically both the Acela/Metroliner service and the Regional service surpass the California routes. - Comodude 03:25, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
maru (talk) contribs 04:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Could someone help out with the station articles that have yet to be made. I'm not from California, so I don't know about the stations, so if anyone is familiar with them, please create good articles. I can always help improve them. Geoking66 04:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
The reason why the route map is displayed outsidethe infobox is that it doesn't display correctly when inside it. It ends up with gaps between each line segment. Tompw ( talk) ( review) 16:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I think it's an IE-specific issue, because Firefox and Opera don't have this problem. Using IE 6, I found zooming out one level eliminated the issue altogether. Making the text smaller might fix the problem too, but I'm not sure how to "fix" it for just one browser. Mackensen (talk) 17:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
The Pacific Surfliner now serves Metrolink's station at Laguna Niguel / Mission Viejo, right? I think this should be added. The Interloafer ( talk) 15:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
The 3.09 million figure is unsubstantiated in either of the references. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the FY2009 has not ended just yet. In the meantime, I will post up the 2.89 million figure for FY2008. Facial ( talk) 23:41, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
I stand corrected. The FY2009 period ended Sept. 30th, and new figures are up. Facial ( talk) 02:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
This is akin to a trivia section, or listing accidents on the 405 freeway. A quick look at the San Joaquins and Capitol Corridor routes gives some perspective on the proper layout of an article.
An encyclopedia should be a summary of information about a subject, and thus, listing accidents should not be included. Facial ( talk) 00:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
This article could benefit greatly from the addition and expansion of a dedicated "History" (as seen in the California Zephyr article though its a bit unorganized there]] and "Proposed Expansions" section (as seen in the Capitol Corridor article). Socalres ( talk) 01:44, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
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@ Mjdestroyerofworlds: Just noting that the stations table you added in late December, 2019 is pretty awful in MOS:ACCESS terms, in its uses of 'rowspan'.
I don't intend to do anything about this imminently, and I'll likely think about it some more, but it strikes me that the most obvious "fixes" are to eliminate the 'County' column, and probably move the "defunct" stations out of the table (into a separate list or table), and then move the 'Service began' column to the left-side of the table.
Consider this a heads up... -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 01:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
I propose that we eliminate the former stations (Anaheim, Orange, Laguna Niguel/Mission Viejo, Carlsbad Village, Carlsbad Poinsettia, Encinitas, and Sorrento Valley) from the table and infobox map. We should continue to mention them in the prose of the page and on the individual station pages. Here's my reasoning: these stations were served for a brief period of time (4-6 years), they had very limited service (in most cases, they were only served by a few trains) and they were more of a trial addition for Rail2Rail passengers, meaning the station stop was more meant for Metrolink or Coaster pass holders, and weren't actively marketed to Amtrak customers. WP:INFOBOX states that infoboxes should, "...summarize key facts that appear in the article. The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance." I think that same idea can be applied to station tables too, and I do not believe stations served for a brief time, by few trains as part of a trial program... does not meet that threshold of "key facts" that readers need to see at a glance. -- RickyCourtney ( talk) 17:18, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
@ RickyCourtney: I don't really agree with some of your recent edits, particularly this and this. The information about longer consists and former equipment is both cited and relevant, as is the mileage and municipality of stations. All of that is standard on comparable articles - why do you think it should be removed here? Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 21:05, 14 March 2024 (UTC)