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"The arch-shaped side bracing along the walls look very similar to the WTC" --- I don't think that's true. I have never seen a pointed arch at WTC (although of course I could be mistaken.) Recommend deleting that sentence; at most its trivia. rewinn 04:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
The Pacific Science Center was designed by Minoru Yamasaki, the architect that designed the World Trade Center. The arch motif was used by Yamasaki in a number of buildings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ASeattleite ( talk • contribs)
Lhb1239, I understand that "Southern Kwakiutl" is given in the reference. However, a) Kwakiutl is not a page about a specific people, it is a page discussing the common misuse of the term. In fact, that page itself points out that the Laich-kwil-tach are also known as the Southern Kwakiutl. b) There are only one Kwakiutl people, the Kwagu'ł, and there are no "northern" or "southern" Kwagu'ł. In fact in the erroneous anthropological classification the Kwagu'ł were considered a "Northern Kwakiutl" people, living as they do near Fort Rupert. c) "Southern" is capitalized for a reason: Southern Kwakiutl specifically refers to the Laich-kwil-tach, and I don't believe it matters that the reference doesn't say this directly. Because "Southern Kwakiutl" is synonymous with Laich-kwil-tach, it is perfectly in sticking to the reference to use, while pointing the link to Kwakiutl is actually deviating from it. We don't need to slavishly use the exact phrasing from a reference that is being used. If a reference says that "Ulysses S. Grant was appointed by the 16th President of the United States to head the Union Army", we don't need to actually say "the 16th President of the United States" in the article. We can say "Abraham Lincoln" because the two are synonymous, and his article makes that point clear. In the same way Laich-kwil-tach makes it clear that they are the Southern Kwakiutl. Owen ( talk) 17:51, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
"I think our way forward is not to discuss what might be going on here, but find a way to prove it." I wholeheartedly agree. All morning, I've been trying to find something -- anything -- that would back up the PSC's use of "Kwakiutl" during the entire run of the exhibit. So far, nothing can be found online other than the reference I provided a couple of days ago (and several similar references). I've done a search at the Burke Museum website as well with no luck. At this point, seriously, I would be okay with just eliminating the reference to "Kwakiutl" in relation to the longhouse all together until a solid ref can be found. Maybe saying, "First Nations coastal longhouse" would suffice until that elusive reference can be found. Thanks for your detailed response to this dilemma, Chromancer. I appreciate your help. Lhb1239 ( talk) 19:59, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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"The arch-shaped side bracing along the walls look very similar to the WTC" --- I don't think that's true. I have never seen a pointed arch at WTC (although of course I could be mistaken.) Recommend deleting that sentence; at most its trivia. rewinn 04:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
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Lhb1239, I understand that "Southern Kwakiutl" is given in the reference. However, a) Kwakiutl is not a page about a specific people, it is a page discussing the common misuse of the term. In fact, that page itself points out that the Laich-kwil-tach are also known as the Southern Kwakiutl. b) There are only one Kwakiutl people, the Kwagu'ł, and there are no "northern" or "southern" Kwagu'ł. In fact in the erroneous anthropological classification the Kwagu'ł were considered a "Northern Kwakiutl" people, living as they do near Fort Rupert. c) "Southern" is capitalized for a reason: Southern Kwakiutl specifically refers to the Laich-kwil-tach, and I don't believe it matters that the reference doesn't say this directly. Because "Southern Kwakiutl" is synonymous with Laich-kwil-tach, it is perfectly in sticking to the reference to use, while pointing the link to Kwakiutl is actually deviating from it. We don't need to slavishly use the exact phrasing from a reference that is being used. If a reference says that "Ulysses S. Grant was appointed by the 16th President of the United States to head the Union Army", we don't need to actually say "the 16th President of the United States" in the article. We can say "Abraham Lincoln" because the two are synonymous, and his article makes that point clear. In the same way Laich-kwil-tach makes it clear that they are the Southern Kwakiutl. Owen ( talk) 17:51, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
"I think our way forward is not to discuss what might be going on here, but find a way to prove it." I wholeheartedly agree. All morning, I've been trying to find something -- anything -- that would back up the PSC's use of "Kwakiutl" during the entire run of the exhibit. So far, nothing can be found online other than the reference I provided a couple of days ago (and several similar references). I've done a search at the Burke Museum website as well with no luck. At this point, seriously, I would be okay with just eliminating the reference to "Kwakiutl" in relation to the longhouse all together until a solid ref can be found. Maybe saying, "First Nations coastal longhouse" would suffice until that elusive reference can be found. Thanks for your detailed response to this dilemma, Chromancer. I appreciate your help. Lhb1239 ( talk) 19:59, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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