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This article would better be named Pacific Coast Ranges (as it is specifically about those particular coastal ranges). There is a (dictionary definition) article at Coastal range, that probably should be moved to Wikitionary. Any comments? - Marshman 19:21, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I decided to fix the confusion of names. This article is now at Pacific Coast Ranges - Marshman 17:45, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
What are the Calipoiea Mountains? I tried googling them, and google wants to spell it Calliopeia Mountains. A search on < oregon coast range Calliopeia > had no web hits. I was raised in Oregon, and have never heard of these mountains.
And — the Tehachapi Mountains are considered a coastal range? dino 00:35, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I agree. That ("California box") addition is absolutely ridiculous. I would hope there are no plans to stamp that monstrousity onto every article that remotely has to do with California. I thought the purpose of Categories was to avoid such redundant "sludge" ? - Marshman 19:02, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
I've lived in Oregon for almost 35 years, most of that in Lane County, and as far as I know, the range of mountains you cross on the way to the coast has always been called the "Coast Range". I'm completely unaware that there is a more specific name for it. All of the Oregon articles that mention the "Coast Range" redirect to "Pacific Coast Ranges", which doesn't seem specific enough. I like the idea of starting an "Oregon Coast Ranges" article, but what a mess to disambig all those links. I'd be interested to hear what any geography experts have to say on the subject. What is the darn range really called, and does it merit its own article? Katr67 17:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Why is the Peninsular Range included here? It is not part of the Coast Range, and has more in common with the Sierra Nevada than it does the California Coast Range. -- Pegminer 22:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Is the Cascade Range really considered part of the Pacific Coast ranges? Katr67 06:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I've currently set the northward limit here at the Chugach, Kenai and Talkeetna; ranges farther west, though also limning the Pacific Coast, sort of, are all in the Alaska Ranges; not sure if they should be included here, i.e. if they're classified as part of the Pacific Cordillera or not, or are something separate. Skookum1 23:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, is Pacific Coast Range or Pacific Coast Ranges a well established name for the whole group of mountain ranges along the coast including the Cascade Range? I could not find any such use outside of Wikipedia. Brittanica concise defines Pacific Coast Range as only the coastal ranges from Southern California to mid Washington, and specifically excludes Cascade Range. Please give some references for the use of this term in the sense of the article. -- h-stt !? 17:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
How about moving the article to List of Pacific Coastal Ranges? Then the title is marked as descriptive and not a proper name. Because that gave reason for the confusion in the first place. -- h-stt !? 12:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Does the Pacific Coast Ranges include the Yukon Ranges? I'm the creator of the article but I'm not sure if the Pacific Coast Ranges is appropiate for the parent; it's not listed in the article. If the Yukon Ranges are part of the Pacific Coast Ranges, it should be included with the list. Bivouac currently lists 10 mountain ranges and 4 sub-ranges associated with the Yukon Ranges ( [1]). Black Tusk 23:40: 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I amended the opening paragraph in accordance with what I "know" to be the case, although my own ref for that is in the distant past from my work at bivouac.com - must have been Stuart Holland's definition, as I know he discussed the term; I'll look in my copy when I get a chance. I had a look at the USGS ref for that paragraph and it's US-only:
There's nothing in BCGNIS or CNGDB but, again, I'm pretty sure Holland gets into it somewhere, and distinguishes the broader meaning of the term from its Oregon-only meaning. So effectively the USGS ref is a dud, as far as the macro-definition of the range-system goes; as I recall, the Alaska Range is not part of it, though the Saint Elias Mountains are, while maybe the Chugach Mountains are not (even though part of the Chugach is east of the Copper River, which otherwise would make a nice tidy boundary....but in toponymy nothing is all that tidy, in many cases.....the Rockies, for example, are pierced by the Peace - largely because nobody ever gave a esparate name to their extension north of the Peace (what's now Lake Williston) Skookum1 ( talk) 05:59, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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The second paragraph of the article indicates that Vancouver Island's Insular Mountains are not Pacific Coast Ranges, but the fourth paragraph lists them as one of the ranges. It seems most intuitive to include them, even if they are "geologically distinct". In fact I think we could cut the whole second sentence. Dardanelle ( talk) 02:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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This article would better be named Pacific Coast Ranges (as it is specifically about those particular coastal ranges). There is a (dictionary definition) article at Coastal range, that probably should be moved to Wikitionary. Any comments? - Marshman 19:21, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I decided to fix the confusion of names. This article is now at Pacific Coast Ranges - Marshman 17:45, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
What are the Calipoiea Mountains? I tried googling them, and google wants to spell it Calliopeia Mountains. A search on < oregon coast range Calliopeia > had no web hits. I was raised in Oregon, and have never heard of these mountains.
And — the Tehachapi Mountains are considered a coastal range? dino 00:35, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I agree. That ("California box") addition is absolutely ridiculous. I would hope there are no plans to stamp that monstrousity onto every article that remotely has to do with California. I thought the purpose of Categories was to avoid such redundant "sludge" ? - Marshman 19:02, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
I've lived in Oregon for almost 35 years, most of that in Lane County, and as far as I know, the range of mountains you cross on the way to the coast has always been called the "Coast Range". I'm completely unaware that there is a more specific name for it. All of the Oregon articles that mention the "Coast Range" redirect to "Pacific Coast Ranges", which doesn't seem specific enough. I like the idea of starting an "Oregon Coast Ranges" article, but what a mess to disambig all those links. I'd be interested to hear what any geography experts have to say on the subject. What is the darn range really called, and does it merit its own article? Katr67 17:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Why is the Peninsular Range included here? It is not part of the Coast Range, and has more in common with the Sierra Nevada than it does the California Coast Range. -- Pegminer 22:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Is the Cascade Range really considered part of the Pacific Coast ranges? Katr67 06:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I've currently set the northward limit here at the Chugach, Kenai and Talkeetna; ranges farther west, though also limning the Pacific Coast, sort of, are all in the Alaska Ranges; not sure if they should be included here, i.e. if they're classified as part of the Pacific Cordillera or not, or are something separate. Skookum1 23:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, is Pacific Coast Range or Pacific Coast Ranges a well established name for the whole group of mountain ranges along the coast including the Cascade Range? I could not find any such use outside of Wikipedia. Brittanica concise defines Pacific Coast Range as only the coastal ranges from Southern California to mid Washington, and specifically excludes Cascade Range. Please give some references for the use of this term in the sense of the article. -- h-stt !? 17:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
How about moving the article to List of Pacific Coastal Ranges? Then the title is marked as descriptive and not a proper name. Because that gave reason for the confusion in the first place. -- h-stt !? 12:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Does the Pacific Coast Ranges include the Yukon Ranges? I'm the creator of the article but I'm not sure if the Pacific Coast Ranges is appropiate for the parent; it's not listed in the article. If the Yukon Ranges are part of the Pacific Coast Ranges, it should be included with the list. Bivouac currently lists 10 mountain ranges and 4 sub-ranges associated with the Yukon Ranges ( [1]). Black Tusk 23:40: 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I amended the opening paragraph in accordance with what I "know" to be the case, although my own ref for that is in the distant past from my work at bivouac.com - must have been Stuart Holland's definition, as I know he discussed the term; I'll look in my copy when I get a chance. I had a look at the USGS ref for that paragraph and it's US-only:
There's nothing in BCGNIS or CNGDB but, again, I'm pretty sure Holland gets into it somewhere, and distinguishes the broader meaning of the term from its Oregon-only meaning. So effectively the USGS ref is a dud, as far as the macro-definition of the range-system goes; as I recall, the Alaska Range is not part of it, though the Saint Elias Mountains are, while maybe the Chugach Mountains are not (even though part of the Chugach is east of the Copper River, which otherwise would make a nice tidy boundary....but in toponymy nothing is all that tidy, in many cases.....the Rockies, for example, are pierced by the Peace - largely because nobody ever gave a esparate name to their extension north of the Peace (what's now Lake Williston) Skookum1 ( talk) 05:59, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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The second paragraph of the article indicates that Vancouver Island's Insular Mountains are not Pacific Coast Ranges, but the fourth paragraph lists them as one of the ranges. It seems most intuitive to include them, even if they are "geologically distinct". In fact I think we could cut the whole second sentence. Dardanelle ( talk) 02:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)