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Trivia sections on Wikipedia are considered very bad form. All imformation within this section should be dispersed to apropriate places within the article. -- The_stuart 18:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
This article suffers from the same problem I see in a lot of Wikipedia articles, that being ridiculous hyperlinks on completely random words. For instance, in the section listing the names of the different ghosts, all of their colors are linked to an ARTICLE on that COLOR. As if people don't know what "red" is. Also, when discussing the 256th level, "256" is linked to an article on the number "256". Not only is this silly, but it's arbitrary. Why isn't "player" linked to its own article in a following sentence? Why isn't the word "the" linked to an article explaining "the"? Meanwhile actual words people might not know, such as "byte" aren't linked. What did the writers do, throw a sucker dart at their monitor to decide which words should be hyperlinked? Links should only be on words that relate to the concepts in the article (i.e. "video game" or "arcade" and not the number "256" or a color). And this should only be done when there is a reasonable liklihood that people will not know what the word means or that they would want to read more about it. In other words, common sense should be used.-- Daniel 23:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I changed the description of the linked Java game from: "virtually the same as the arcade version" to "similar to the arcade version (with aspects of Ms. Pac Man)." If you look at the Java game, you'll see it is similar, but is not identical to the original Pac Man. Also, the fruit moves around, which was a Ms. Pac Man innovation. I guess you could say it looks "inspired" by the original. — Frecklefoot 15:25, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)
When the ghosts are blue, their behaviour depends on the contents of the program ROM chips; while this is deterministic it could be interpreted as being pseudo-random.
There should be a proper game list for Pac-Man. It is an entire series of video games, and they should be included in the article. I don't know them all, so someone else would have to include them. - user:Thealexfish
What about adding the new DS games? -- Luigi 19:41, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
Perhaps the Pac-Man series should get a seperate page, including the game list? Kouban 15:31, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I'll get right onto creating that page, i've also added 2 more pac-man games to the list. These are Pac-Bomber and Sky-Maze ??? -- Legolost 13:37 13th July 2006
In regards to Sethmahoney's removal of the word "Ironically" in this sentence:
...because it wasn't "ironic." It is ironic because the arcade version netted millions for Namco while the 2600 version netted very little, if anything, for Atari. Huge fortunes = regular pay; huge loss = huge bonus -- that's irony! :-)
I'm not going to make a big stink about it, however. If someone else wants it in too, please re-add it. — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:46, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)
But
just doesn't have a nice ring to it IMHO. ;-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:40, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)
I just added the Infobox from Wikipedia:WikiProject Arcade Games. It's a standard that will be used on all arcade game articles. I hated to nix the great caption the previous image had, but it looked really bad in the infobox, so, sorry! If we get another image of gameplay, we can add the great caption back in. If you want to help out with the Arcade Game WikiProject, come on over and add yourself to the Participants. Cheers! :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:08, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)
I remember reading a stat on the total amount of money spent on Pac-Man video games and the number of quarters that was. It was a pretty impressive number and would add an interesting fact to the article. Can anyone find that or have a source for it? Thanks - Taxman 14:53, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)
You can find some statistics if you google for "pacman quarters billion" in google. Most sources seem to agree that it were "4 billion quarters worldwide". Which I think is odd, since most countries don't have quarters :) But it's quite sure that it earned more than $1 billion. -- Tjansen 22:11, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The captured image shown in the article is, if I know corretly, of some shockwave implementation of the game. Why dont we put the original capture? I am saying so because since Pac-Man's release and moreover in recent years, we can find many versions/implementaions of the game, which generally do not follow the actual gameplay and copy only the 'looks' (from my personal experience). So, we should stick to the original Pac-Man. Isn't it? -- Anupam Srivastava 21:13, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The screenshot looks authentic to me, but feel free to make a better screenshot :) My problem with the pic is rather that the main character looks like a dot, you can't see his mouth. It may also be helpful for understanding the game if some dots would have been eaten. The problem is the legal situation: AFAIK there is no legal way to obtain a Pacman ROM. Maybe if somebody owns a pacman arcade machine, doing the screenshot is ok... or if you live in a country without software copyrights. Or ask the owner of a different site whether you can take theirs. -- Tjansen 22:03, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
OK! I think I have got someone who owns a legitimate copy of good old Pc-Man. He is in Benaras. May be he will allow me to get a snapshot :)-- Anupam Srivastava 18:18, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The thing about 'paku' is it could romanize as either 'puck' or 'pac' with equal validity. still..
There appears to be a mini-revert war going on on this article's page. Can someone explain the controversy here? -- DropDeadGorgias (talk) 19:33, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
This article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050614/ap_en_tv/pac_man_s_25th says the perfect score was made by Billy Williams (not Mitchell). Anybody got a definitive source?
Billy Mitchell wasn't a kid when he got the perfect game. He was, and still is, in the Hot Sauce business. Check out Twin Galaxies for more information on him and other perfect scores. Which leads me to say that more information would be nice to add on how a perfect game is actually acheived, ie. all ghosts must be eaten on every board where they turn blue (levels 1 through 16, inclusively, and level 18), all of the "fruits" must be eaten, for each extra man the 9 pellets that exist and reappear in the garbledeegook on the split screen must be eaten (there are no power pellets that live in that region because each pellet is worth only 10 points). There's even a site that will help the beginner get around 3 million points at Neil Chapman's using patterns that are easy to learn.
There's a meme out there which states Pac-man was originally based on "a devouring monster" in a Japanese nursery rhyme, a creature that "gobbled up evil spirits" while making a "puck-puck" sound. I've yet to find a single instance of the actual rhyme in question, and this may well be one of those "friend of a friend" factoids.
If true, this tidbit definitely warrants posting.
Quite simply, I think the merge was done poorly. The introduction has been terribly bloated. User:Mr.Do! has a history of making substantial changes without prior discussion. My suggestion would be to revert the article entirely and have someone else merge it. -- Poiuyt Man talk 14:01, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I was the original poster of the Puck Man page. I created the page as there is a significant difference between the style of the artwork and build of cabinet.
The Pac Man article on wikipedia, rightly so, is centered around the American version of the game as licensed by Midway. This American version was more successful and spawned many spinoffs where the original Japanese title was only sold in Japan and some parts of Europe.
Both articles referring to each-other would be a much better idea than simply merging as the Pac Man article is about the game whereas the Puck Man article is centered on design and history of the game.
I'm really curious about this one. Anyone have any more information? Uttaddmb 14:56, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I changed the "Cruise Elroy" section ever so slightly. I put, "It is believed..." instead of making it sound like a definate fact. Don't know if it matters if i tell anyone this or not... user:PAC_MAN7
I remember back in high school, there was a popular 2d multiplayer game we'd play on the school's computer networks where bizarre Pac-characters (Pacman, Pacaddict, Pacperv, Pacturd, and Paccondom are some of the ones I remember) would chase each other through different, quasi-realistic background screens. The only one I remember is a sewer. Does anyone else remember this? What was it? 68.161.44.106 19:43, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Would it be encyclopedic to include diagrams of the patterns to complete each level? There could at least be a mention of them anyway. Richy 15:36, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
This is the first time I've posted anything on Wikipedia, and the first time I've done an edit. Though this is being posted before I edit. But I don't think Weird Al Yankovic ever did a song called Pacman. Weird Al has a small part in his FAQ on his website that covers the issue of the rampant fakes among file sharing networks. He notes that every song he's done is on his Catalogue page. I did a quick search, and Pacman is not on there. So I'm fairly confident that Weird Al did not do the song in question, and it's just another fake on a file sharing network. Just for reference, here are the pages I mentioned - Weird Al FAQ Weird Al Catalogue -- Brandon Myers 03:57, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
I added the section on Pac-Man Arrangement, which tipped it to 33KB. I'm wondering how to fix that, or if we should leave it alone. Hbdragon88 03:45, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Apparently, Namco has a mobile phone version of Pacman and Ms. Pac-Man. Is it worth mentioning in the External Links?
There was a tv show of Pac Man. I watched it when i was a kid. I don't have time for it but someone should add something about that subject.
I remember there was a trademark dispute. I remember the solution was that there could not be pacman snack foods. I don't think the cornnut logo is being used anymore.-- Gbleem 17:03, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
The PUCK MAN article has identical information to the one in this article. Previous attempts to merge have only resulted in edit wars. I would like to get some more Wikipedian support before turning PUCK MAN into a redirect. Hbdragon88 07:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I went ahead and merged it into this article, and fixed all double redirects as necessary. - Hbdragon88 22:24, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Anyone else who has "Pacman Arrangement" notice that these names are switched. This is why I specified "red ghost" and orange ghost" yesterday, and now someone has changed it back to "Blinky" and "clyde" repsectively. I want to make sure that this is the way the game was programmed, and just not some sort of glitch on my copy of it (ncv2.zip, which I run with Mame0100b), before I edit the text with the following:
Urchin/Clyde (the red ghost in this game) takes on the appearance of a Viking
Crybaby/Blinky (the orange ghost in this game) spits out new larger 50 point pills. - Eric B 22:11, 29 Dec 2005
I have the Namco Museum version too, for Mame0100b. Is the one you played Mame, or is it Gameboy, or the other platforms? (Playstation? etc). (Also, there is no 6th ghost in mine; only the regular four, plus the new one). Why is that header I put "obnoxious"? I guess the way you redid it was nice, but I put "Nomenclature conflicts" back, since it sounds better (more "encyclopedic") than "Name Debate", which you seemed unsure of yourself. Eric B 19:08, 30 Dec 2005
Can you edit the Pac-Man seies section? There're some Pac-Man games missing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.191.132 ( talk • contribs) 17:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
In just doing a big edit; I at the last minute caught the little notice about page size. (I never realized what the limit of a page was supposed to be). I looked around to see what could be trimmed. Perhaps "Pacman Arrangement", Pacman VS", and "Mario Kart GT" could be reduced to single sentences in the "Successors" section, since those games have their own articles, which are linked. But that might not be enough to free up the needed 11KB. I'm thinking now of just creating a new article called "ghost-monster" and moving the entire "nomenclature conflicts" section (All of which I added in the last month or so) there. Eric B 01:28, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Most of the knowledge here comes from actual game play, or at least memory (but with Mama/Pacmame) even those most obscure hack version does not need memory to be relied on anymore). It's not like some philosophical or scientifc theory or supposed finding that anyone could make up off the top of their head, without any substantiation or evidence. What is some book or link going to tell anyone about the game that actual players can't, or that any reader could not find out by buying or downloading games? I think the games are their own "source" or "reference".
At the very least, the quote from the guy from Slayer needs a source, as it is a direct quote. Kouban 15:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games
Lists pacman as one of the titles. I assume if it's going to be released it'd be a part of some sort arcade bundle, or be redesigned completely into something 3d and flashy. Anyway, either this article isn't up to date, or the list entry should be removed.
Can you edit the Pac-Man seies section? There're some Pac-Man games missing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.191.132 ( talk • contribs) 17:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
I think that there should be a separate article for the original game "Pac-Man", and the character, "Pac-Man"; as they are two separate entities, it seems only fair that they should have their own articles. The disambiguation page already has a bullet point for it. Besides, Pac-Man is in a lot of other games now, as well, which might not be construed as sequels to the original (Pac Man World, anyone?). And I'm sure we could dig up other juicy tidbits about his personality from the show, or something. - Danfish77 02:32, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
I remember playing a version of Ms. Pac-Man in a CiCi's Pizza where the ghosts had been replaced with rats (however, they turned into the regular blue ghosts when a Power Pellet was eaten.) Has anyone else seen this version or these sprites, and if so, was anything else different (as in the changes to Pac-Man Plus?) -- Goldrushcavi 23:53, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I added the following:
Hyper Pac Man (1994) created by Semicom Pac-Man VR (1996) created by Virtuality Puckman Pockimon (2000) created by Genie
I also added links to for each.
No, these are just hacks except for the VR game. I deleted 2. -- Elil 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Well at least add them to the Knock-offs section then! -- 4.250.63.241 16:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I added them to the knock off section with some added info.
I will begin a section for this game
Puzzle Club was a game by NAMCO featuring PAC-MAN, so why remove the info and call it vandalism? It even listed sources as well.
Here is what was written:
- Puzzle Club was created by Namco in 1990. This is puzzle game players had to solve different puzzles, many of which had Pac-Man themes. This game was suppose to be released into the arcades, but it never made it out of the prototype stage. In the game a player can choose between two types of games: Young called Pac-Man Story and Adult called floor exercise. The Pac-man Story game give you blocks with images of Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man and Baby Pac-Man on them, which are used to play a Sliding puzzle. Other characters from the Pac-Man games make appearances after each round as an award for solving the puzzle. [1]
-- 4.250.63.179 00:53, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
This expression appears to be too obscure to use. I checked the history and "to wit" was "corrected" to "to win" by some poor soul who thought he'd found a typo. I corrected it back and it got reverted as vandalism! There's something amusing about this, but to prevent this waste of time in the future, I simply replaced it with "which is this". If anybody wants to attempt a more extensive rewrite, be my guest. 82.92.119.11 21:57, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
there is not enough information on pacman! i am doing this for a reposrt and i really need more info. :(
Someone asked the question in the article; I deleted the question and am answering it here:
To add pictures to Wikipedia articles, you must:
Hope that helps,
-- EngineerScotty 05:39, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
NOTE: All remaining issues posted by Bugmuncher have been copied to /to do by Seahen.
The Good article nomination for Pac-Man/Archive 1 has failed, for the following reason:
A good article has the following attributes.
1. It is well written. In this respect:
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect:
3. It is broad in its coverage, addressing all major aspects of the topic (this requirement is slightly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required by WP:FAC, and allows shorter articles and broad overviews of large topics to be listed);.
4. It follows the neutral point of view policy. In this respect:
5. It is stable, i.e., it does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars.
6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic. In this respect:
Thanks, Bugmuncher 03:50, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I know I've read somewhere that Iwatani himself stated that the whole pizza-inspiration thing was a fictional anecdote that he just jokingly tells to reporters. Unfortunately, I can't remember where and have no proof at the moment. Just wanted to throw that out there in case anyone knows what I'm talking about. - Lizard Dude 03:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
The benefits of splitting #Atari 2600 off into its own article would include the following:
Comments would be welcome. Seahen 21:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
There is no way the name "ghosts" started with the 2600 port. People always called them "ghosts" before the 2600 port was ever done, because they look like ghosts in the arcade version (or something with a sheet draped over it, anyway). I definitely remember this personally. 67.101.96.106
Only Space Invaders has managed this feat. However, aside from a Game Boy conversion in 1990 and a SNES conversion in 1997, the game saw few re-releases between 1982 and the game's 25th anniversary in 2005.
What exactly has space invaders accomplished that pac man did? This could be made ALOT more clear or deleted entirely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.132.227.238 ( talk • contribs)
Does anyone mind if I shrink the Atari 2600 cart image (somewhat big now at 300x278px) and replace the ugly looking Gallery section with this?
Port screenshots | |||||
Atari 2600 (1982) | Atari 5200 (1983) | Commodore 64 (1983) | |||
Intellivision (1983) | SAM Coupé (1991) | NES (1993) |
-- SevereTireDamage 22:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Can anybody find a source saying the original name was "PUCK MAN"? My understanding was that the original name was "Puck-Man". TJ Spyke 06:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm a little confused by something. In the good article review, it was noted the images did not have Fair Use rationales. However, they all had boilerplate tags on them, mostly game-screenshot. Doesn't that cover the fair use provision? Or is a further "fair use" description repeating what the tag says required? I was under the impression that the boilerplates covered all this. -- SevereTireDamage 06:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I added the Japanese language for the names of the ghosts, but I'm wondering about the translation of the name "Otoboke" as "stupid." I've consulted three different Japanese dictionaries, and each defines "otoboke" as "one who feigns ignorance" or "one who plays dumb." Is it possible that "stupid" was used simply because there is no convenient equivalent word in English ("Someone who plays dumb" just doesn't have the same ring...)? Anyone know the source of these translations?- Sarfa 23:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I may be wrong, but wasn't the pacman craze either refered to then or now as Pacmania? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satchfan ( talk • contribs) 11:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
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Trivia sections on Wikipedia are considered very bad form. All imformation within this section should be dispersed to apropriate places within the article. -- The_stuart 18:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
This article suffers from the same problem I see in a lot of Wikipedia articles, that being ridiculous hyperlinks on completely random words. For instance, in the section listing the names of the different ghosts, all of their colors are linked to an ARTICLE on that COLOR. As if people don't know what "red" is. Also, when discussing the 256th level, "256" is linked to an article on the number "256". Not only is this silly, but it's arbitrary. Why isn't "player" linked to its own article in a following sentence? Why isn't the word "the" linked to an article explaining "the"? Meanwhile actual words people might not know, such as "byte" aren't linked. What did the writers do, throw a sucker dart at their monitor to decide which words should be hyperlinked? Links should only be on words that relate to the concepts in the article (i.e. "video game" or "arcade" and not the number "256" or a color). And this should only be done when there is a reasonable liklihood that people will not know what the word means or that they would want to read more about it. In other words, common sense should be used.-- Daniel 23:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I changed the description of the linked Java game from: "virtually the same as the arcade version" to "similar to the arcade version (with aspects of Ms. Pac Man)." If you look at the Java game, you'll see it is similar, but is not identical to the original Pac Man. Also, the fruit moves around, which was a Ms. Pac Man innovation. I guess you could say it looks "inspired" by the original. — Frecklefoot 15:25, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)
When the ghosts are blue, their behaviour depends on the contents of the program ROM chips; while this is deterministic it could be interpreted as being pseudo-random.
There should be a proper game list for Pac-Man. It is an entire series of video games, and they should be included in the article. I don't know them all, so someone else would have to include them. - user:Thealexfish
What about adding the new DS games? -- Luigi 19:41, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
Perhaps the Pac-Man series should get a seperate page, including the game list? Kouban 15:31, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I'll get right onto creating that page, i've also added 2 more pac-man games to the list. These are Pac-Bomber and Sky-Maze ??? -- Legolost 13:37 13th July 2006
In regards to Sethmahoney's removal of the word "Ironically" in this sentence:
...because it wasn't "ironic." It is ironic because the arcade version netted millions for Namco while the 2600 version netted very little, if anything, for Atari. Huge fortunes = regular pay; huge loss = huge bonus -- that's irony! :-)
I'm not going to make a big stink about it, however. If someone else wants it in too, please re-add it. — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:46, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)
But
just doesn't have a nice ring to it IMHO. ;-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:40, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)
I just added the Infobox from Wikipedia:WikiProject Arcade Games. It's a standard that will be used on all arcade game articles. I hated to nix the great caption the previous image had, but it looked really bad in the infobox, so, sorry! If we get another image of gameplay, we can add the great caption back in. If you want to help out with the Arcade Game WikiProject, come on over and add yourself to the Participants. Cheers! :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:08, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)
I remember reading a stat on the total amount of money spent on Pac-Man video games and the number of quarters that was. It was a pretty impressive number and would add an interesting fact to the article. Can anyone find that or have a source for it? Thanks - Taxman 14:53, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)
You can find some statistics if you google for "pacman quarters billion" in google. Most sources seem to agree that it were "4 billion quarters worldwide". Which I think is odd, since most countries don't have quarters :) But it's quite sure that it earned more than $1 billion. -- Tjansen 22:11, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The captured image shown in the article is, if I know corretly, of some shockwave implementation of the game. Why dont we put the original capture? I am saying so because since Pac-Man's release and moreover in recent years, we can find many versions/implementaions of the game, which generally do not follow the actual gameplay and copy only the 'looks' (from my personal experience). So, we should stick to the original Pac-Man. Isn't it? -- Anupam Srivastava 21:13, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The screenshot looks authentic to me, but feel free to make a better screenshot :) My problem with the pic is rather that the main character looks like a dot, you can't see his mouth. It may also be helpful for understanding the game if some dots would have been eaten. The problem is the legal situation: AFAIK there is no legal way to obtain a Pacman ROM. Maybe if somebody owns a pacman arcade machine, doing the screenshot is ok... or if you live in a country without software copyrights. Or ask the owner of a different site whether you can take theirs. -- Tjansen 22:03, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
OK! I think I have got someone who owns a legitimate copy of good old Pc-Man. He is in Benaras. May be he will allow me to get a snapshot :)-- Anupam Srivastava 18:18, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The thing about 'paku' is it could romanize as either 'puck' or 'pac' with equal validity. still..
There appears to be a mini-revert war going on on this article's page. Can someone explain the controversy here? -- DropDeadGorgias (talk) 19:33, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
This article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050614/ap_en_tv/pac_man_s_25th says the perfect score was made by Billy Williams (not Mitchell). Anybody got a definitive source?
Billy Mitchell wasn't a kid when he got the perfect game. He was, and still is, in the Hot Sauce business. Check out Twin Galaxies for more information on him and other perfect scores. Which leads me to say that more information would be nice to add on how a perfect game is actually acheived, ie. all ghosts must be eaten on every board where they turn blue (levels 1 through 16, inclusively, and level 18), all of the "fruits" must be eaten, for each extra man the 9 pellets that exist and reappear in the garbledeegook on the split screen must be eaten (there are no power pellets that live in that region because each pellet is worth only 10 points). There's even a site that will help the beginner get around 3 million points at Neil Chapman's using patterns that are easy to learn.
There's a meme out there which states Pac-man was originally based on "a devouring monster" in a Japanese nursery rhyme, a creature that "gobbled up evil spirits" while making a "puck-puck" sound. I've yet to find a single instance of the actual rhyme in question, and this may well be one of those "friend of a friend" factoids.
If true, this tidbit definitely warrants posting.
Quite simply, I think the merge was done poorly. The introduction has been terribly bloated. User:Mr.Do! has a history of making substantial changes without prior discussion. My suggestion would be to revert the article entirely and have someone else merge it. -- Poiuyt Man talk 14:01, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I was the original poster of the Puck Man page. I created the page as there is a significant difference between the style of the artwork and build of cabinet.
The Pac Man article on wikipedia, rightly so, is centered around the American version of the game as licensed by Midway. This American version was more successful and spawned many spinoffs where the original Japanese title was only sold in Japan and some parts of Europe.
Both articles referring to each-other would be a much better idea than simply merging as the Pac Man article is about the game whereas the Puck Man article is centered on design and history of the game.
I'm really curious about this one. Anyone have any more information? Uttaddmb 14:56, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
I changed the "Cruise Elroy" section ever so slightly. I put, "It is believed..." instead of making it sound like a definate fact. Don't know if it matters if i tell anyone this or not... user:PAC_MAN7
I remember back in high school, there was a popular 2d multiplayer game we'd play on the school's computer networks where bizarre Pac-characters (Pacman, Pacaddict, Pacperv, Pacturd, and Paccondom are some of the ones I remember) would chase each other through different, quasi-realistic background screens. The only one I remember is a sewer. Does anyone else remember this? What was it? 68.161.44.106 19:43, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Would it be encyclopedic to include diagrams of the patterns to complete each level? There could at least be a mention of them anyway. Richy 15:36, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
This is the first time I've posted anything on Wikipedia, and the first time I've done an edit. Though this is being posted before I edit. But I don't think Weird Al Yankovic ever did a song called Pacman. Weird Al has a small part in his FAQ on his website that covers the issue of the rampant fakes among file sharing networks. He notes that every song he's done is on his Catalogue page. I did a quick search, and Pacman is not on there. So I'm fairly confident that Weird Al did not do the song in question, and it's just another fake on a file sharing network. Just for reference, here are the pages I mentioned - Weird Al FAQ Weird Al Catalogue -- Brandon Myers 03:57, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
I added the section on Pac-Man Arrangement, which tipped it to 33KB. I'm wondering how to fix that, or if we should leave it alone. Hbdragon88 03:45, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Apparently, Namco has a mobile phone version of Pacman and Ms. Pac-Man. Is it worth mentioning in the External Links?
There was a tv show of Pac Man. I watched it when i was a kid. I don't have time for it but someone should add something about that subject.
I remember there was a trademark dispute. I remember the solution was that there could not be pacman snack foods. I don't think the cornnut logo is being used anymore.-- Gbleem 17:03, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
The PUCK MAN article has identical information to the one in this article. Previous attempts to merge have only resulted in edit wars. I would like to get some more Wikipedian support before turning PUCK MAN into a redirect. Hbdragon88 07:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I went ahead and merged it into this article, and fixed all double redirects as necessary. - Hbdragon88 22:24, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Anyone else who has "Pacman Arrangement" notice that these names are switched. This is why I specified "red ghost" and orange ghost" yesterday, and now someone has changed it back to "Blinky" and "clyde" repsectively. I want to make sure that this is the way the game was programmed, and just not some sort of glitch on my copy of it (ncv2.zip, which I run with Mame0100b), before I edit the text with the following:
Urchin/Clyde (the red ghost in this game) takes on the appearance of a Viking
Crybaby/Blinky (the orange ghost in this game) spits out new larger 50 point pills. - Eric B 22:11, 29 Dec 2005
I have the Namco Museum version too, for Mame0100b. Is the one you played Mame, or is it Gameboy, or the other platforms? (Playstation? etc). (Also, there is no 6th ghost in mine; only the regular four, plus the new one). Why is that header I put "obnoxious"? I guess the way you redid it was nice, but I put "Nomenclature conflicts" back, since it sounds better (more "encyclopedic") than "Name Debate", which you seemed unsure of yourself. Eric B 19:08, 30 Dec 2005
Can you edit the Pac-Man seies section? There're some Pac-Man games missing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.191.132 ( talk • contribs) 17:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
In just doing a big edit; I at the last minute caught the little notice about page size. (I never realized what the limit of a page was supposed to be). I looked around to see what could be trimmed. Perhaps "Pacman Arrangement", Pacman VS", and "Mario Kart GT" could be reduced to single sentences in the "Successors" section, since those games have their own articles, which are linked. But that might not be enough to free up the needed 11KB. I'm thinking now of just creating a new article called "ghost-monster" and moving the entire "nomenclature conflicts" section (All of which I added in the last month or so) there. Eric B 01:28, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Most of the knowledge here comes from actual game play, or at least memory (but with Mama/Pacmame) even those most obscure hack version does not need memory to be relied on anymore). It's not like some philosophical or scientifc theory or supposed finding that anyone could make up off the top of their head, without any substantiation or evidence. What is some book or link going to tell anyone about the game that actual players can't, or that any reader could not find out by buying or downloading games? I think the games are their own "source" or "reference".
At the very least, the quote from the guy from Slayer needs a source, as it is a direct quote. Kouban 15:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games
Lists pacman as one of the titles. I assume if it's going to be released it'd be a part of some sort arcade bundle, or be redesigned completely into something 3d and flashy. Anyway, either this article isn't up to date, or the list entry should be removed.
Can you edit the Pac-Man seies section? There're some Pac-Man games missing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.191.132 ( talk • contribs) 17:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
I think that there should be a separate article for the original game "Pac-Man", and the character, "Pac-Man"; as they are two separate entities, it seems only fair that they should have their own articles. The disambiguation page already has a bullet point for it. Besides, Pac-Man is in a lot of other games now, as well, which might not be construed as sequels to the original (Pac Man World, anyone?). And I'm sure we could dig up other juicy tidbits about his personality from the show, or something. - Danfish77 02:32, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
I remember playing a version of Ms. Pac-Man in a CiCi's Pizza where the ghosts had been replaced with rats (however, they turned into the regular blue ghosts when a Power Pellet was eaten.) Has anyone else seen this version or these sprites, and if so, was anything else different (as in the changes to Pac-Man Plus?) -- Goldrushcavi 23:53, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I added the following:
Hyper Pac Man (1994) created by Semicom Pac-Man VR (1996) created by Virtuality Puckman Pockimon (2000) created by Genie
I also added links to for each.
No, these are just hacks except for the VR game. I deleted 2. -- Elil 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Well at least add them to the Knock-offs section then! -- 4.250.63.241 16:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I added them to the knock off section with some added info.
I will begin a section for this game
Puzzle Club was a game by NAMCO featuring PAC-MAN, so why remove the info and call it vandalism? It even listed sources as well.
Here is what was written:
- Puzzle Club was created by Namco in 1990. This is puzzle game players had to solve different puzzles, many of which had Pac-Man themes. This game was suppose to be released into the arcades, but it never made it out of the prototype stage. In the game a player can choose between two types of games: Young called Pac-Man Story and Adult called floor exercise. The Pac-man Story game give you blocks with images of Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man and Baby Pac-Man on them, which are used to play a Sliding puzzle. Other characters from the Pac-Man games make appearances after each round as an award for solving the puzzle. [1]
-- 4.250.63.179 00:53, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
This expression appears to be too obscure to use. I checked the history and "to wit" was "corrected" to "to win" by some poor soul who thought he'd found a typo. I corrected it back and it got reverted as vandalism! There's something amusing about this, but to prevent this waste of time in the future, I simply replaced it with "which is this". If anybody wants to attempt a more extensive rewrite, be my guest. 82.92.119.11 21:57, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
there is not enough information on pacman! i am doing this for a reposrt and i really need more info. :(
Someone asked the question in the article; I deleted the question and am answering it here:
To add pictures to Wikipedia articles, you must:
Hope that helps,
-- EngineerScotty 05:39, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
NOTE: All remaining issues posted by Bugmuncher have been copied to /to do by Seahen.
The Good article nomination for Pac-Man/Archive 1 has failed, for the following reason:
A good article has the following attributes.
1. It is well written. In this respect:
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect:
3. It is broad in its coverage, addressing all major aspects of the topic (this requirement is slightly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required by WP:FAC, and allows shorter articles and broad overviews of large topics to be listed);.
4. It follows the neutral point of view policy. In this respect:
5. It is stable, i.e., it does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars.
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Thanks, Bugmuncher 03:50, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I know I've read somewhere that Iwatani himself stated that the whole pizza-inspiration thing was a fictional anecdote that he just jokingly tells to reporters. Unfortunately, I can't remember where and have no proof at the moment. Just wanted to throw that out there in case anyone knows what I'm talking about. - Lizard Dude 03:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
The benefits of splitting #Atari 2600 off into its own article would include the following:
Comments would be welcome. Seahen 21:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
There is no way the name "ghosts" started with the 2600 port. People always called them "ghosts" before the 2600 port was ever done, because they look like ghosts in the arcade version (or something with a sheet draped over it, anyway). I definitely remember this personally. 67.101.96.106
Only Space Invaders has managed this feat. However, aside from a Game Boy conversion in 1990 and a SNES conversion in 1997, the game saw few re-releases between 1982 and the game's 25th anniversary in 2005.
What exactly has space invaders accomplished that pac man did? This could be made ALOT more clear or deleted entirely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.132.227.238 ( talk • contribs)
Does anyone mind if I shrink the Atari 2600 cart image (somewhat big now at 300x278px) and replace the ugly looking Gallery section with this?
Port screenshots | |||||
Atari 2600 (1982) | Atari 5200 (1983) | Commodore 64 (1983) | |||
Intellivision (1983) | SAM Coupé (1991) | NES (1993) |
-- SevereTireDamage 22:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Can anybody find a source saying the original name was "PUCK MAN"? My understanding was that the original name was "Puck-Man". TJ Spyke 06:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm a little confused by something. In the good article review, it was noted the images did not have Fair Use rationales. However, they all had boilerplate tags on them, mostly game-screenshot. Doesn't that cover the fair use provision? Or is a further "fair use" description repeating what the tag says required? I was under the impression that the boilerplates covered all this. -- SevereTireDamage 06:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I added the Japanese language for the names of the ghosts, but I'm wondering about the translation of the name "Otoboke" as "stupid." I've consulted three different Japanese dictionaries, and each defines "otoboke" as "one who feigns ignorance" or "one who plays dumb." Is it possible that "stupid" was used simply because there is no convenient equivalent word in English ("Someone who plays dumb" just doesn't have the same ring...)? Anyone know the source of these translations?- Sarfa 23:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I may be wrong, but wasn't the pacman craze either refered to then or now as Pacmania? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satchfan ( talk • contribs) 11:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)