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Shouldn't oxygen-15 be listed as "trace" rather than "synthetic" , since trace ammounts are produced naturally by lightning and in the sun. 174.103.211.189 ( talk) 04:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
thought that should be changed 2605:A601:AA0D:F900:9CA4:FB25:36E:D726 ( talk) 05:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
I've been doing some basic research into the etymology behind Oxygen, and found that Lavoisier's contribution states that:
However when actually reading "Sur la combustion en général", neither "vital air" nor "azote" are ever mentioned:
[1] https://www.academie-sciences.fr/pdf/dossiers/Franklin/Franklin_pdf/Mem1777_p592.pdf
The closest he came to defining either (as far as I could find) is the line:
In English:
The wikipedia text that claims he called these "vital air" and "azote" stems from reference [18]: "The Encyclopedia of the Chemical Elements." [2] https://archive.org/details/encyclopediaofch00hamp/page/500/mode/2up
I don't disbelieve that Lavoisier started calling the two components of air "vital air" and "azote" at some point after his discovery, and the etymology of Oxygen aligns well with him mentioning that a lot of combustions produce acid later in the paper.
...But I'm not sure where Clifford A. Hampel, from "The Encyclopedia of the Chemical Elements," found the terms "vital air" and "azote". From what I can gather, it can't be found in "Sur la combustion en général".
Now this is all hyper-nitpicky for sure, and maybe I've overlooked a very important line in Lavoisier's paper and I'm all wrong here, but when I came upon this discrepancy I figured it might be worth pointing out. :-) Fiets38 ( talk) 23:48, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
[3] “ Charged metallic lumps found to produce oxygen in total darkness in process akin to how plants use photosynthesis” Doug Weller talk 19:30, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
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Shouldn't oxygen-15 be listed as "trace" rather than "synthetic" , since trace ammounts are produced naturally by lightning and in the sun. 174.103.211.189 ( talk) 04:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
thought that should be changed 2605:A601:AA0D:F900:9CA4:FB25:36E:D726 ( talk) 05:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
I've been doing some basic research into the etymology behind Oxygen, and found that Lavoisier's contribution states that:
However when actually reading "Sur la combustion en général", neither "vital air" nor "azote" are ever mentioned:
[1] https://www.academie-sciences.fr/pdf/dossiers/Franklin/Franklin_pdf/Mem1777_p592.pdf
The closest he came to defining either (as far as I could find) is the line:
In English:
The wikipedia text that claims he called these "vital air" and "azote" stems from reference [18]: "The Encyclopedia of the Chemical Elements." [2] https://archive.org/details/encyclopediaofch00hamp/page/500/mode/2up
I don't disbelieve that Lavoisier started calling the two components of air "vital air" and "azote" at some point after his discovery, and the etymology of Oxygen aligns well with him mentioning that a lot of combustions produce acid later in the paper.
...But I'm not sure where Clifford A. Hampel, from "The Encyclopedia of the Chemical Elements," found the terms "vital air" and "azote". From what I can gather, it can't be found in "Sur la combustion en général".
Now this is all hyper-nitpicky for sure, and maybe I've overlooked a very important line in Lavoisier's paper and I'm all wrong here, but when I came upon this discrepancy I figured it might be worth pointing out. :-) Fiets38 ( talk) 23:48, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
[3] “ Charged metallic lumps found to produce oxygen in total darkness in process akin to how plants use photosynthesis” Doug Weller talk 19:30, 22 July 2024 (UTC)