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So the U is back; how do we return the wiki page's location and title to "Oxford University Conservative Association"? I think I've caught most other instances in the page where the U absent. Thanks. 94.172.18.103 ( talk) 11:58, 26 March 2013 (UTC)Prez
Ask the proctors — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.187.255 ( talk) 00:44, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Cherwell - http://www.cherwell.org/news/uk/2013/03/27/ouca-back-in-business — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.172.18.103 ( talk) 14:39, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
The new ybaotr section needs to be more balanced. The documentary was about Joe Cooke yet one oxford uni ip continuously removes any balanced discussion. The fact that the President of cf distanced cf from OCA is important, and shows oca's evolving position with the party. The fact that Cooke's credibility has been questioned must be noted. The documentary was about Cooke and so other media can be considered. Guido fawkes is the leading political blog in the UK so his coverage should be noted. Nobody said it, or any other media is correct, but it is major. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.39.114.252 ( talk) 11:42, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Agree. However, it must be done in the context of the Association. Edited as appropriate. Agree with the 'removing ip address' that there is no need to mention the detail of why the bullying may or may not have happened, quails eggs etc. However, for balance one must show that his TV claims were disputed. Give0ver34 ( talk) 14:01, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Better balance now. Disraeli70 ( talk) 18:36, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
86.156.80.167 has edited the section to apply positive spin. I have corrected this. It is now sourced again, and highlights both the Cooke's side of the story and the backlash resulting from the programme. Disraeli70 ( talk) 22:04, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
This section is ridiculous, with all sorts of stories that are hardly relevant to the Association. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.194.215 ( talk) 14:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Might I suggest that the section on the merger with the OUTRG be deleted? Its not particularly notable or interesting, rather being one of those things that student politicians get worked up about but really is a bit of a nonsense. Besides, the truth was that the society was shut down because nobody turned up to meetings, they barely had enough committee members to make quorum on a 100% turnout, and despite the valiant efforts of Mr Connoley to turn the society around, it had been chronically badly run for quite some time. The entire article is a mess, some cutting down and consolidation would seem appropriate, and this would seem a prime section that'd be worthy of deletion. -- Thardman ( talk) 17:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
This article is far too long, largely because of the 'OUCA in the media' section in which people have sought to include every glib and passing reference of OUCA in the student press over the last ten years. Esp the 1-2 line entries such as 'strippers' and 'William Hague'. Not only are these MANY entries trite, trivial and uninteresting, but as anyone who went to Oxford will tell you the OxStu and Cherwell papers are about as accurate in their reporting as a blind man riding a mechanical bull would be in an archery contest. Can we please stick to (relevant) facts people! 129.67.62.56 ( talk) 16:50, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.62.56 ( talk) 16:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
It looks ridiculous to have a great long list of sub headings extending the page far longer than is necessary when most of the sections extend no more than a couple of lines eg 'Rowdy Behaviour', 'Make Me a Tory, Simon Clarke', 'Rees-Mogg', Wentz-Gardiner, Hitler Youth, Strippers etc. So what is one glib remark, or a three word quote from a STUDENT PAPER - *with accuracy highly dubious* , who cares no one wants to read it! Of the OXStu and Cherwell are really the fonts of knowledge you profess them to be and people relly give a dam about these table-scraps of content people can look them up in the papers' own online archives. Do other wikipedia pages list every passing references in the press that wapen to have been made in the last decade. NO !! Imagin how ridiculus that would be for any famous person, place etc so why are you doing it for this page?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Wikipedia is about free, quick access, to key facts for reference, it is not an archive trawl and a competition to see how many references one can cite. IMO there should not even be an 'In the Media' section, I am willing to let the more substantive entries stand. If the guff reappears I shall report it to higher moderators. 129.67.62.56 ( talk) 01:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
What do you expect. Wikipedia is full of useless leftist kunts too busy editing articles and setting up relations industries to keep themselves occupied. Hence they have no ownership of the means of production a few standout turds aside - Soros for eg. My advice? on't bother with it - get a 2nd hand copy of Britannica from the 60s - before subversion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.176.22 ( talk) 14:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Politico234 ( talk) 15:30, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Politico234 What is it that convinces you I am a member of OCA, out of interest? The section 'OUCA in the media' is several times larger than the rest of the article. Compare this with articles about other such societies (besides CUCA, which you have made to resemble this one). The article on the Oxford Union, for example, does not have a lengthy section documenting every instance of press coverage during its lifetime. Wikipedia itself says the following 'Wikipedia content is intended to be factual, notable, verifiable with cited external sources, and neutrally presented.'. I do not think that what I have deleted matches at least one of these. Were I 'airbrushing' I would delete the entire section. Instead I'm cutting out some of the more irrelevant stories. Leave it to David Blair to document every instance of pathetic infighting, etc. It has no place in an encyclopaedic article Turning to your more substantive new additions: Why is it that you deleted the mention of a visit by a former Prime Minister? Or are you determined for every single mention of OUCA to be negative? Does it matter what the strippers used in their act? Your elaboration on Hague's malpractice, though sourced, is completely speculative. Random racist speaker not notable. Nor is a story about Damian Green being thrown into the river. Account of 'suspension of democracy' speculative. Andrew Dalton account completely unverifiable. 'Anti immigration' link an unverifiable accusation. Waldegrave account sounds like an after dinner witticism. Aitken/Maxwell title goes far beyond the un-noteworthy events described. Your two examples of postal fraud are, as your source admits, rumour. Wikipedia does not serve to titillate. JacobJHWard ( talk) 19:02, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Unsurprisingly I agree. JacobJHWard ( talk) 20:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
The edits on 8 May range from simple airbrushing to outright vandalism. If part of the article is inaccurate, change it, and ideally explain why. Simply removing material supported by third party sources must appear to be aimed at distorting the record. Mtpt 20:41, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
The sections 'OUCA Controversies' and OUCA Votebuying are not suitable for inclusion in an respectable encylcopaedia and ought to be removed permanently, and not just reverted to by Wikigimps. John 25 Febr 2005
BTW, was Samuels not "Acting President" for a few days during HT '05 while Smith was being impeached? Whilst the RO's decision was overturned, presumably for the duration of its interpretation this was both de facto and de iure the case?
The current article is a mess of in-jokes about current and immediately previous members of OUCA. Nothing about its interesting history and the notable political figures involved in it there. It needs a thorough cleanup. David | Talk 10:27, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Look, whoever is "cleaning" this page up is contradicting themselves. Having complained about the "in jokes" nature of this site, they have then proceeded to delete the link to the Oxford Student newspaper website, the only verifiable public source that can be used to back up the assertion that everything on here links to the wider world. I think that everything should be evidence through the citation of ALL newspaper articles, local and national.
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This seems to have been written by someone desperate to show OUCA up. This page as it stands is pointless, with no historical figures or an understanding of how the association works, just a collection of accusations against the recent sordid history, which, as Dbiv points out, is pointlessly esoteric. Can do better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.152.59 ( talk • contribs) 01:55, 3 February 2006.
This page is obviously being edited by someone who hates the organisation and is, therefore, slandering it and all its members continually. It must stop. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.9.93.236 ( talk • contribs) 01:15, 17 February 2006.
I have removed this inacurrate politicing, since it should not play a part in a respectable encyclopedia. Peter —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.7.41.197 ( talk • contribs) 05:57, 24 February 2006.
This page has had the slander removed, and I hope that it will be allowed to remain so. John. 13.28. 24 January 2005 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.177.1.238 ( talk • contribs) 08:04, 26 February 2006.
Calling the permanent editors "wikigimps" is such a good way of making them sympathetic to your cause. What a brainwave. I hope you become a politician. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.136.70.10 ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 16 April 2006.
Can a reference be found for the claim that "OUCA is successfully repairing its relations with the Conservative Party and over the last year has welcomed many Shadow Cabinet ministers and been subject to a page in the Mail on Sunday by Lord Rees-Mogg praising the Association for its forward-looking members" ? All I can find remotely like this is http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1052-1613989,00.html , which talks about Oxford in general, and how impressed Rees-Mogg was with the OU History Society in particular, but nothing by him on OUCA comes up on any search engine. Jeremy, 16 March 2006
The section on controversies is by far the most interesting part of the entry. It is about the only reason why anyone not from Oxford would care about OUCA and its notoriety around the country (world? I write this from Southern California...). 15 Feb 2012
If anyone can extend the list of Presidents back into the past a little further that would be a useful addition. 134.146.9.19 14:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Go to the Bod and ask for that fine little text "The History of OUCA" (or some such), which inter alia contains a full list up to roughly 1996, as well as a splendid number of scandals which should fill this article to the brim. 129.67.52.32 19:52, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Presumbly someone ought also to label Ed Sutton as "deceased"? I would do it myself but don't want to be accused of editing the page - Matthew are you going to do it? 14:26, 11 May 2006
Done. Anatole? Mtpt 16:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah it's me, how's law school? I have been thinking about these controversies. For consistency's sake, I think you ought to include Nick Bennett's similar story (forged signature for council nomination in 2002, subsequent controversy over his appointment as RO in OUSU), and also the episode where Storrey, Atkins and Callaghan were thrown out of OUSU Council for going around goose-stepping and saluting General Pinochet? 10:23, 12 May 2006
Exam fever at the moment. Don't see why solicitors need accounts; I'm strictly the commercial type! What are you up to? Presumably not still in Ox? If you want to see those added, you should just stick something in yourself - if you can't find cites just stick it in the lower section for the time being. Worth registering for an ID if you haven't already. It would be nice to see some proper OUCA history on this page, but I'm guessing I'll have to get some books out of storage and write that myself! Mtpt 18:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Unreferenced material may be deleted by any editor from an article. However, I have placed it below, so that any of these statements for which a reference can be found, can be put back into the article.
Tyrenius 14:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
This was floated right. I deleted forced placing of it, as it looks hideous on a low res screen (which I use). The writing to the left of it is in a narrow column, and it has the knock-on effect of compressing the "Officers, Trinity Term 2006" table to half its proper width, i.e. all the advantages of floating right create an even worse effect elsewhere. Please try it on low res and you'll see what I mean. However, this is my last edit on the TOC and if someone reverts it to floating right, I am not going to alter it again. Tyrenius 21:49, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
This discussion has been copied from Talk:Oxford Council election 2006#Discussion about which article should have the main section
Hello - Probably I didn't go about it the right way: I think the article on the controversy should be merged with that on OUCA, which it affected much more than the council elections. I see the view that it may be considered relevant to the elections, but it didn't seem so at all at the time. Also, similar contorversies in Tower Hamlets & Birmingham are not mentioned on those pages (principally though because the pages don't exist!).
Thirdly (changing topic a bit), I was a bit concerned that it was labelled as it was: no charges have as yet been brought, so perhaps it might be renamed "Nomination form controversy" or something to avoid the candidate being considered complicit in something perhaps not his fault. 129.67.53.94 16:25, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
This sounds ludicrously implausible - can someone please give some citations or indeed evidence of any kind to support this please?
End of copied discussion
As a politically involved student at OU I can confirm that most of the rumours are true (once had the dubious pleasure of hearing the OUCA cover of 'round the mountain' - however it's all unverifiable so shoulddn't be included. What might be mentioned is that the only ward that the tories lost votes in during the 2007 local elections - was the one where OUCA canvassed.
Please be aware that the current publications officer of OUCA has been editing this article repeatedly. Jammy07 ( talk) 21:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I am no longer an officer and never edited the article when I was. I supported an earlier edit which you have repeatedly undone without addressing the numerous issues with the information concerned which have been raised again and again in talk. The content you keep adding is not appropriate for an encyclopaedia. JacobJHWard ( talk) 21:15, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Well the answer to that is no, appaz, judging from the guy's lack of response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.202.31 ( talk) 20:12, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Was it really 18 November 2008, even though the OUTRG was disbanded in December 2007? -- Stfg ( talk) 15:18, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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This page has clearly been edited by officers of the association - amongst them, McPherson and the sitting president Walford.
It's a clear conflict of interest, especially given that a lot of the edits lack proper citations - I'm not sure how they would be verifiable. FacileEditor ( talk) 13:29, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
It also appears as if a couple of users - including User:Lockhill2994 - have been editing rather haphazardly. Unless they have something to say I'm beginning to suspect deliberate editing in favour of a POV.
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So the U is back; how do we return the wiki page's location and title to "Oxford University Conservative Association"? I think I've caught most other instances in the page where the U absent. Thanks. 94.172.18.103 ( talk) 11:58, 26 March 2013 (UTC)Prez
Ask the proctors — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.187.255 ( talk) 00:44, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Cherwell - http://www.cherwell.org/news/uk/2013/03/27/ouca-back-in-business — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.172.18.103 ( talk) 14:39, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
The new ybaotr section needs to be more balanced. The documentary was about Joe Cooke yet one oxford uni ip continuously removes any balanced discussion. The fact that the President of cf distanced cf from OCA is important, and shows oca's evolving position with the party. The fact that Cooke's credibility has been questioned must be noted. The documentary was about Cooke and so other media can be considered. Guido fawkes is the leading political blog in the UK so his coverage should be noted. Nobody said it, or any other media is correct, but it is major. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.39.114.252 ( talk) 11:42, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Agree. However, it must be done in the context of the Association. Edited as appropriate. Agree with the 'removing ip address' that there is no need to mention the detail of why the bullying may or may not have happened, quails eggs etc. However, for balance one must show that his TV claims were disputed. Give0ver34 ( talk) 14:01, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Better balance now. Disraeli70 ( talk) 18:36, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
86.156.80.167 has edited the section to apply positive spin. I have corrected this. It is now sourced again, and highlights both the Cooke's side of the story and the backlash resulting from the programme. Disraeli70 ( talk) 22:04, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
This section is ridiculous, with all sorts of stories that are hardly relevant to the Association. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.194.215 ( talk) 14:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Might I suggest that the section on the merger with the OUTRG be deleted? Its not particularly notable or interesting, rather being one of those things that student politicians get worked up about but really is a bit of a nonsense. Besides, the truth was that the society was shut down because nobody turned up to meetings, they barely had enough committee members to make quorum on a 100% turnout, and despite the valiant efforts of Mr Connoley to turn the society around, it had been chronically badly run for quite some time. The entire article is a mess, some cutting down and consolidation would seem appropriate, and this would seem a prime section that'd be worthy of deletion. -- Thardman ( talk) 17:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
This article is far too long, largely because of the 'OUCA in the media' section in which people have sought to include every glib and passing reference of OUCA in the student press over the last ten years. Esp the 1-2 line entries such as 'strippers' and 'William Hague'. Not only are these MANY entries trite, trivial and uninteresting, but as anyone who went to Oxford will tell you the OxStu and Cherwell papers are about as accurate in their reporting as a blind man riding a mechanical bull would be in an archery contest. Can we please stick to (relevant) facts people! 129.67.62.56 ( talk) 16:50, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.62.56 ( talk) 16:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
It looks ridiculous to have a great long list of sub headings extending the page far longer than is necessary when most of the sections extend no more than a couple of lines eg 'Rowdy Behaviour', 'Make Me a Tory, Simon Clarke', 'Rees-Mogg', Wentz-Gardiner, Hitler Youth, Strippers etc. So what is one glib remark, or a three word quote from a STUDENT PAPER - *with accuracy highly dubious* , who cares no one wants to read it! Of the OXStu and Cherwell are really the fonts of knowledge you profess them to be and people relly give a dam about these table-scraps of content people can look them up in the papers' own online archives. Do other wikipedia pages list every passing references in the press that wapen to have been made in the last decade. NO !! Imagin how ridiculus that would be for any famous person, place etc so why are you doing it for this page?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Wikipedia is about free, quick access, to key facts for reference, it is not an archive trawl and a competition to see how many references one can cite. IMO there should not even be an 'In the Media' section, I am willing to let the more substantive entries stand. If the guff reappears I shall report it to higher moderators. 129.67.62.56 ( talk) 01:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
What do you expect. Wikipedia is full of useless leftist kunts too busy editing articles and setting up relations industries to keep themselves occupied. Hence they have no ownership of the means of production a few standout turds aside - Soros for eg. My advice? on't bother with it - get a 2nd hand copy of Britannica from the 60s - before subversion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.176.22 ( talk) 14:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Politico234 ( talk) 15:30, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Politico234 What is it that convinces you I am a member of OCA, out of interest? The section 'OUCA in the media' is several times larger than the rest of the article. Compare this with articles about other such societies (besides CUCA, which you have made to resemble this one). The article on the Oxford Union, for example, does not have a lengthy section documenting every instance of press coverage during its lifetime. Wikipedia itself says the following 'Wikipedia content is intended to be factual, notable, verifiable with cited external sources, and neutrally presented.'. I do not think that what I have deleted matches at least one of these. Were I 'airbrushing' I would delete the entire section. Instead I'm cutting out some of the more irrelevant stories. Leave it to David Blair to document every instance of pathetic infighting, etc. It has no place in an encyclopaedic article Turning to your more substantive new additions: Why is it that you deleted the mention of a visit by a former Prime Minister? Or are you determined for every single mention of OUCA to be negative? Does it matter what the strippers used in their act? Your elaboration on Hague's malpractice, though sourced, is completely speculative. Random racist speaker not notable. Nor is a story about Damian Green being thrown into the river. Account of 'suspension of democracy' speculative. Andrew Dalton account completely unverifiable. 'Anti immigration' link an unverifiable accusation. Waldegrave account sounds like an after dinner witticism. Aitken/Maxwell title goes far beyond the un-noteworthy events described. Your two examples of postal fraud are, as your source admits, rumour. Wikipedia does not serve to titillate. JacobJHWard ( talk) 19:02, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Unsurprisingly I agree. JacobJHWard ( talk) 20:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
The edits on 8 May range from simple airbrushing to outright vandalism. If part of the article is inaccurate, change it, and ideally explain why. Simply removing material supported by third party sources must appear to be aimed at distorting the record. Mtpt 20:41, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
The sections 'OUCA Controversies' and OUCA Votebuying are not suitable for inclusion in an respectable encylcopaedia and ought to be removed permanently, and not just reverted to by Wikigimps. John 25 Febr 2005
BTW, was Samuels not "Acting President" for a few days during HT '05 while Smith was being impeached? Whilst the RO's decision was overturned, presumably for the duration of its interpretation this was both de facto and de iure the case?
The current article is a mess of in-jokes about current and immediately previous members of OUCA. Nothing about its interesting history and the notable political figures involved in it there. It needs a thorough cleanup. David | Talk 10:27, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Look, whoever is "cleaning" this page up is contradicting themselves. Having complained about the "in jokes" nature of this site, they have then proceeded to delete the link to the Oxford Student newspaper website, the only verifiable public source that can be used to back up the assertion that everything on here links to the wider world. I think that everything should be evidence through the citation of ALL newspaper articles, local and national.
—The preceding
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81.19.57.170 (
talk •
contribs) 01:19, 28 January 2006.
This seems to have been written by someone desperate to show OUCA up. This page as it stands is pointless, with no historical figures or an understanding of how the association works, just a collection of accusations against the recent sordid history, which, as Dbiv points out, is pointlessly esoteric. Can do better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.152.59 ( talk • contribs) 01:55, 3 February 2006.
This page is obviously being edited by someone who hates the organisation and is, therefore, slandering it and all its members continually. It must stop. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.9.93.236 ( talk • contribs) 01:15, 17 February 2006.
I have removed this inacurrate politicing, since it should not play a part in a respectable encyclopedia. Peter —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.7.41.197 ( talk • contribs) 05:57, 24 February 2006.
This page has had the slander removed, and I hope that it will be allowed to remain so. John. 13.28. 24 January 2005 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.177.1.238 ( talk • contribs) 08:04, 26 February 2006.
Calling the permanent editors "wikigimps" is such a good way of making them sympathetic to your cause. What a brainwave. I hope you become a politician. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.136.70.10 ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 16 April 2006.
Can a reference be found for the claim that "OUCA is successfully repairing its relations with the Conservative Party and over the last year has welcomed many Shadow Cabinet ministers and been subject to a page in the Mail on Sunday by Lord Rees-Mogg praising the Association for its forward-looking members" ? All I can find remotely like this is http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1052-1613989,00.html , which talks about Oxford in general, and how impressed Rees-Mogg was with the OU History Society in particular, but nothing by him on OUCA comes up on any search engine. Jeremy, 16 March 2006
The section on controversies is by far the most interesting part of the entry. It is about the only reason why anyone not from Oxford would care about OUCA and its notoriety around the country (world? I write this from Southern California...). 15 Feb 2012
If anyone can extend the list of Presidents back into the past a little further that would be a useful addition. 134.146.9.19 14:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Go to the Bod and ask for that fine little text "The History of OUCA" (or some such), which inter alia contains a full list up to roughly 1996, as well as a splendid number of scandals which should fill this article to the brim. 129.67.52.32 19:52, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Presumbly someone ought also to label Ed Sutton as "deceased"? I would do it myself but don't want to be accused of editing the page - Matthew are you going to do it? 14:26, 11 May 2006
Done. Anatole? Mtpt 16:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah it's me, how's law school? I have been thinking about these controversies. For consistency's sake, I think you ought to include Nick Bennett's similar story (forged signature for council nomination in 2002, subsequent controversy over his appointment as RO in OUSU), and also the episode where Storrey, Atkins and Callaghan were thrown out of OUSU Council for going around goose-stepping and saluting General Pinochet? 10:23, 12 May 2006
Exam fever at the moment. Don't see why solicitors need accounts; I'm strictly the commercial type! What are you up to? Presumably not still in Ox? If you want to see those added, you should just stick something in yourself - if you can't find cites just stick it in the lower section for the time being. Worth registering for an ID if you haven't already. It would be nice to see some proper OUCA history on this page, but I'm guessing I'll have to get some books out of storage and write that myself! Mtpt 18:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Unreferenced material may be deleted by any editor from an article. However, I have placed it below, so that any of these statements for which a reference can be found, can be put back into the article.
Tyrenius 14:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
This was floated right. I deleted forced placing of it, as it looks hideous on a low res screen (which I use). The writing to the left of it is in a narrow column, and it has the knock-on effect of compressing the "Officers, Trinity Term 2006" table to half its proper width, i.e. all the advantages of floating right create an even worse effect elsewhere. Please try it on low res and you'll see what I mean. However, this is my last edit on the TOC and if someone reverts it to floating right, I am not going to alter it again. Tyrenius 21:49, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
This discussion has been copied from Talk:Oxford Council election 2006#Discussion about which article should have the main section
Hello - Probably I didn't go about it the right way: I think the article on the controversy should be merged with that on OUCA, which it affected much more than the council elections. I see the view that it may be considered relevant to the elections, but it didn't seem so at all at the time. Also, similar contorversies in Tower Hamlets & Birmingham are not mentioned on those pages (principally though because the pages don't exist!).
Thirdly (changing topic a bit), I was a bit concerned that it was labelled as it was: no charges have as yet been brought, so perhaps it might be renamed "Nomination form controversy" or something to avoid the candidate being considered complicit in something perhaps not his fault. 129.67.53.94 16:25, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
This sounds ludicrously implausible - can someone please give some citations or indeed evidence of any kind to support this please?
End of copied discussion
As a politically involved student at OU I can confirm that most of the rumours are true (once had the dubious pleasure of hearing the OUCA cover of 'round the mountain' - however it's all unverifiable so shoulddn't be included. What might be mentioned is that the only ward that the tories lost votes in during the 2007 local elections - was the one where OUCA canvassed.
Please be aware that the current publications officer of OUCA has been editing this article repeatedly. Jammy07 ( talk) 21:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I am no longer an officer and never edited the article when I was. I supported an earlier edit which you have repeatedly undone without addressing the numerous issues with the information concerned which have been raised again and again in talk. The content you keep adding is not appropriate for an encyclopaedia. JacobJHWard ( talk) 21:15, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Well the answer to that is no, appaz, judging from the guy's lack of response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.202.31 ( talk) 20:12, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Was it really 18 November 2008, even though the OUTRG was disbanded in December 2007? -- Stfg ( talk) 15:18, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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This page has clearly been edited by officers of the association - amongst them, McPherson and the sitting president Walford.
It's a clear conflict of interest, especially given that a lot of the edits lack proper citations - I'm not sure how they would be verifiable. FacileEditor ( talk) 13:29, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
It also appears as if a couple of users - including User:Lockhill2994 - have been editing rather haphazardly. Unless they have something to say I'm beginning to suspect deliberate editing in favour of a POV.
-- FacileEditor ( talk) 12:31, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Suggest User:FacileEditor guilty of deliberate editing in favour of a POV
- User:Durbot 15:30, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
I do not think that
Oxford_University_Conservative_Association#Financial_and_interpersonal_misconduct should be included. Issues of reliability aside (given the BLP implications of this subsection, we should really use better sources than this, see
WP:NPF), this is ultimately a matter of dueness, or more specifically,
WP:PROPORTION, which states that a description of isolated events, quotes, criticisms, or news reports related to one subject may be verifiable and impartial, but still disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic
(emphasis mine). The fact that something is verifiable does not mean that it should be included. The association receives plenty of coverage in student newspapers and there is no reason to include this over other minutiae, unless we believe it to be more important - but this should be reflected by coverage in sources better than student newspapers.
192.76.8.90 (
talk) 10:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
BLP applies to all material about living persons anywhere on Wikipedia( Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Applicability_of_the_policy). The policy page could feature this information more prominently, though. Have a nice day too! 192.76.8.90 ( talk) 12:21, 28 May 2022 (UTC)