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Oppose all recent English sources that I'm seeing use Oskil, not Oskol. Results may change from country to country, but seaching Oskil river (without quotes) and clicking on the news section gives me 6,760 results; there's only 479 results if I do the same with Oskol river.
SuperΨDro19:45, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Just a comment that (i) the article was moved a few days ago without discussion; (ii) the Russian cities which are on this river are
Stary Oskol (actually, a big one) and
Novy Oskol, and these articles are not going to be moved. There also some derivatives as well, such as Oskol Electrometalurgy Plant (no article currently but clearly notable, may be I should write one).--
Ymblanter (
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07:48, 15 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose I believe that they do not. As pointed out above, do not confuse mentions of the names of Russian city and town, the Ukrainian village, and the Ukrainian soccer team with references to this river. —MichaelZ.15:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)reply
What does “known by the cities” mean? How does it relate to our guidelines? The titles of the articles on the Russian settlements have the spelling Oskol, and the article on the Ukrainian settlement has the spelling Oskil. But we are not talking about them, but the name the river is known by. —MichaelZ.18:39, 16 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose - As with all rivers, this one has its greatest volumetric flow rate at its mouth, which lies in Ukraine. Hence, the Ukraine's case for the common name (Oskil) is stronger even though it starts in Russia.
103.141.102.6 (
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12:06, 25 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Current
common English name of the river is clearly "Oskil". (English language) Wikipedia is not for setting the standard of translations, but article names should follow current standards in the English speaking world. If this changes the article can be changed. — Yulia Romero •
Talk to me!14:53, 27 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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Oppose all recent English sources that I'm seeing use Oskil, not Oskol. Results may change from country to country, but seaching Oskil river (without quotes) and clicking on the news section gives me 6,760 results; there's only 479 results if I do the same with Oskol river.
SuperΨDro19:45, 14 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Just a comment that (i) the article was moved a few days ago without discussion; (ii) the Russian cities which are on this river are
Stary Oskol (actually, a big one) and
Novy Oskol, and these articles are not going to be moved. There also some derivatives as well, such as Oskol Electrometalurgy Plant (no article currently but clearly notable, may be I should write one).--
Ymblanter (
talk)
07:48, 15 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose I believe that they do not. As pointed out above, do not confuse mentions of the names of Russian city and town, the Ukrainian village, and the Ukrainian soccer team with references to this river. —MichaelZ.15:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)reply
What does “known by the cities” mean? How does it relate to our guidelines? The titles of the articles on the Russian settlements have the spelling Oskol, and the article on the Ukrainian settlement has the spelling Oskil. But we are not talking about them, but the name the river is known by. —MichaelZ.18:39, 16 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose - As with all rivers, this one has its greatest volumetric flow rate at its mouth, which lies in Ukraine. Hence, the Ukraine's case for the common name (Oskil) is stronger even though it starts in Russia.
103.141.102.6 (
talk)
12:06, 25 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Current
common English name of the river is clearly "Oskil". (English language) Wikipedia is not for setting the standard of translations, but article names should follow current standards in the English speaking world. If this changes the article can be changed. — Yulia Romero •
Talk to me!14:53, 27 September 2022 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.