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On 3 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Oryx. The result of the discussion was Moved to Oryx (website). |
The result of the move request was: Moved to Oryx (website). Per consensus. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 18:07, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Oryxspioenkop (OSINT) → Oryx – Common name Eurohunter ( talk) 17:30, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
This is a pretty bad article. It completely fails on multiple Wikipedia requirements. It reads like, and probably is, public relations written by a PR pro of person associated with the firm, not neutral observers.
It is going to be twice as hard to fix as it should, because it's likely there are state actors involved in this.
Oryx is either itself, or a primary source for, a huge amount of pro-Ukraine propaganda. In an ongoing war. Thus, this article itself is a very small corner of the information war that is supporting the kinetic war that is happening in Ukraine, and thus has the attention of government information warfare specialists on both sides of the conflict.
A more skeptical and scholarly tone for this article is, at a minimum, what is needed. 35.146.235.1 ( talk) 15:47, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
A couple times now a user has added language that synthesizes original research and misattributed language about OSINT in general reworked to be implied to be about the subject. There is nothing wrong with noting legitimate criticism of the subject as covered in reliable sources -- however including misleading, inaccurate or unsourced information in an attempt to provide "balance" is not acceptable. Either way, discussion and consensus are needed before this should be added again. Yaksar (let's chat) 22:18, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
It relies on publicly available reports as source, which as a result, can be easily manipulated and often unsourced and also as a result of pro Ukraine bias, Russian losses are often exaggerated. Because both side use the same Soviet era weaponry, Ukrainian losses can be also passed as Russian losses, and some allegations that there are visual evidences being shown in different angle to amplify Russian losses. Dauzlee ( talk) 11:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
This article is rated Stub-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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On 3 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Oryx. The result of the discussion was Moved to Oryx (website). |
The result of the move request was: Moved to Oryx (website). Per consensus. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 18:07, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Oryxspioenkop (OSINT) → Oryx – Common name Eurohunter ( talk) 17:30, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
This is a pretty bad article. It completely fails on multiple Wikipedia requirements. It reads like, and probably is, public relations written by a PR pro of person associated with the firm, not neutral observers.
It is going to be twice as hard to fix as it should, because it's likely there are state actors involved in this.
Oryx is either itself, or a primary source for, a huge amount of pro-Ukraine propaganda. In an ongoing war. Thus, this article itself is a very small corner of the information war that is supporting the kinetic war that is happening in Ukraine, and thus has the attention of government information warfare specialists on both sides of the conflict.
A more skeptical and scholarly tone for this article is, at a minimum, what is needed. 35.146.235.1 ( talk) 15:47, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
A couple times now a user has added language that synthesizes original research and misattributed language about OSINT in general reworked to be implied to be about the subject. There is nothing wrong with noting legitimate criticism of the subject as covered in reliable sources -- however including misleading, inaccurate or unsourced information in an attempt to provide "balance" is not acceptable. Either way, discussion and consensus are needed before this should be added again. Yaksar (let's chat) 22:18, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
It relies on publicly available reports as source, which as a result, can be easily manipulated and often unsourced and also as a result of pro Ukraine bias, Russian losses are often exaggerated. Because both side use the same Soviet era weaponry, Ukrainian losses can be also passed as Russian losses, and some allegations that there are visual evidences being shown in different angle to amplify Russian losses. Dauzlee ( talk) 11:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)