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There has been a lot of improper editions adding unrelated topics recently. Some of the additions talk about Oromo history, culture and other matters not significant to this article. Please refer to other specific articles to make such editions. ( Jack248) 22:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I propose returning this article to semi-protection. I've just reverted a series of deletion edits by an anonymous user, and if this keeps up (and I believe it will, given the recent attention) it would be simpler to semi-protect the article. I could do this myself but thought I should first bring it up for discussion, seeing how this has already been protected and unprotected in a rather short time period. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=4287 http://www.tkb.org/MoreGroupIncidents.jsp?groupID=4287
Source: Developed by the Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism (MIPT), the Terrorism Knowledge Base offers in-depth information on terrorist incidents, groups, and trials. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hagos ( talk • contribs) 02:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC).
I am not sure if the article lacks factual accuracy but i agree it is not neutral. In order to be tagged for "factual accuracy" Wikipedia states 4 requirements:
None of these four issues are the case in this article. It has an overload of references. Some sources include famous Human Rights organizations and well-known news media outlets creating no difficulty of verification. All the info is sourced and there doesn't seem to be any visible error. Let me know if there is a reason to tag it with "factual accuracy." It seems like neutrality is the only problem and it needs to be tagged with NPOV not with Totally disputed. -- Jack248 18:20, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
The Wikimedia Foundation is receiving complaints about this article. David.Monniaux 04:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
The peace loving nations throughout the world should understand that the Tigrean Peoples Liberation Front is a barbaric and brutal ruler with its massive human rights violations, ie. genocide, mass killings, disappearances of individuals, closure of self- help organisations within the empire, and so on.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.92.9.58 ( talk • contribs) 14:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Image:Olf.PNG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot 01:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
A new section includes Kalonzo Musyoka's alleged claim concerning an OLF assassination plot. I am not sure the cited source is reliable; it is part of the website's "Reader Series", which consists of "opinion and commentaries submitted by African Path readers" ( [1]). Is there a more reliable source than the one provided? A Google News search returned quite a few articles about Kalonzo Musyoka but none, so far as I could tell, mentioned an OLF plot. Until we can cite a better source, I have tagged the citation with {{dubious}}. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:19, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Logic of HistoryWe can all agree this word is deragatory. If the word terrorist is to be used correctly why dont we see it by names such as Stalin and the government he ran. In the colonial period the colonists called the colonized who fought against those terrorists, who is the bigger terrorist here, the colonizers or those that defend themselves? This word is really opinionated since someones terrorist might be considered someone else a group that stands for justice. Just for the intire wikipedia, we are not to show any way favoritism to one side, so lets report facts of what has happened and confirmed rether then putting titles such as terrorists on one onther. Logic of History —Preceding comment was added at 23:24, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Esparcadia ( talk) 22:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC) the word itself is not derogatory if it is used properly and correctly. Lenin's and Stalin's forces were terrorists as they butchered innocent civilians on a massive scale. Dittoes for Mao and Taliban and Islamic states that are simply following the tenets of their "faith" which is that to kill "non-believers" is justified killing.
The article posted on the wikepedia is posted by someone who don't like OLF and Oromo People. The poerson who post this artcle is some one who works for Ethiopian government. The Ethiopian gov. is the one who is killing Oromo civiliance and raping women. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.202.202.21 ( talk) 01:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:41, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia,
Kindly, remove such a horrific lies about one of the most important liberation organizations of the Oromo People. Posting such a lie is tantamount to cleansing Oromo People from the surface of the Earth. It is also against the reputation and credibility of your site.
Good day!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.55.95.193 ( talk) 07:03, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Comment moved here from end of article:
Esparcadia ( talk) 22:40, 28 February 2010 (UTC) definitely a terrorist group - it has all the hallmarks of one: funding from outside; killing of innocent women and chidlren; espousing a hate filled ideology - Islam that condones such actions; etc.
According to the Daily Mail (Jan. 03, 2012), the OLF has dropped its secessionist agenda ( link). I've already cited this in the article. I'm not sure what this means for the future direction of the Wikipedia article, but I thought I'd leave a note about it. One other thing I thought I'd point out, possibly relevant given the new development, is that the infobox says the group's ideology is "Ethnic separatism." I'm not sure that the OLF has ever advocated this, at least on an official basis. "Ethnic self-determination" or "ethnic autonomy" come to mind as possible alternatives (though this brings "tomato / to-MAH-to" to mind). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:42, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
I find this article extremely biased. The information it gives about the OLF only lists some so-called "massacres" and gives you information about the ideology of the organization. There is no mention of prominent members such as Elemoo Qilxuu, Leenco Lata, Tsige Galataa etc. It also makes no mention of the fact that the OLF has split into two factions: OLF A39 (referring to Article 39) who support separation from Ethiopia — Preceding unsigned comment added by HOAScholar ( talk • contribs) 03:07, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia readers,
I believe one doesn't need to be a rocket scientist to understand and see through these sheer propaganda against the Oromo ,OLA & OLF .
These articles are one sided, biased ,partial with no substances of truths in it! This won't be the first & the last to comeacross such deliberate lies & fabrications just to tarnish the good image or give an impression that the said organization (OLF) has no wide support from it's people (the Oromo )! Hoping that this will curtail the popular support (OLF)it enjoy from it wider Oromo people across the country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.81.63.25 ( talk) 10:33, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 ( talk) 14:51, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
This article fails to present a balanced and complete picture of the OLF. There is no information on history, prominent figures and leadership. It wreaks of Ethiopian government propaganda. LencaOromo ( talk) 21:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
This article is inflamatory and pits ethnic group against ethnic group. Wikipedia ammend and correct immediately. THere is no way you can permit an article to read with a statement saying mainly Amarahs, do you know how many of that entails and do you have any idea that Amaraha nd Oromos have married and intermixed for decaded upon decades?...wikignorance.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.201.180.136 ( talk • contribs) 19:43, 27 September 2013
I have tried to be unbiased in my improvements to this article. I hope the "neautrality" tag is no longer necessary. LencaOromo ( talk) 17:45, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm proposing we merge the sections "Criticism of the OLF" and "Rebuttal to Criticism" because, individually, they seem to take based on oppinions instead of just being informative pieces. LencaOromo ( talk) 17:44, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Article is supposed to be about the OLF as an organization. However, much of the article, including several recent edits by LencaOromo, are about claims regarding Oromo history. I think much of the material about Oromo history belongs in a different article. This article should be about the OLF, with only a limited amount of material on the events of more than 100 years ago. Pete unseth ( talk) 18:58, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Is this a neutral assessment or an anti-OLF platform? Wikipedia shouldn't be used for such an unenlightened purpose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.55.180.50 ( talk) 07:15, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
The article seems biased, I don't think statements like the following should be in the article. It sounds like OLF mission statement not an informative article "The OLF recognizes and respects the right of minorities in accordance with internationally accepted principles to develop their culture, administer their own affairs, enjoy equal rights in every field of activity. Just like the current Ethiopian government, the OLF has also undertaken to vigorously work for the full realization of these rights and will take necessary measures to strengthen the bond of fraternity between the Oromo people and minorities in Oromia" -et-vol — Preceding unsigned comment added by Et-vol ( talk • contribs) 20:26, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
doesn't OLF work from eritrea now? or where?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oromoforever ( talk • contribs) 06:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
The neutrality on Rebuttal to Criticism of OLF section is highly debatable. It seems , it is a copy paste from the organization website. Reference should be cited and the section should be written objectively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Et-vol ( talk • contribs) 07:14, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
there were apparently many more massacres of amhara ethiopians. does anyone has more info on this?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oromoforever ( talk • contribs)
does OLF still have support inside the country? what kind of support?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oromoforever ( talk • contribs)
it doesnt mention killingd in cambolcha and other cities. User:Ethiopiawit1 03:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
who are some of well known individuals?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oromoforever ( talk • contribs)
Jara abba gadaa 1936-2013 Tadesse Birru 1921-1975 Waqo Gutu 1924-2006 Baro Tulsa 1938-1978 Ibsa Guyana Mekonnen Gallan Taha Ali Abdi Gizachew Tilahun Ebissa Adugna
Bilisumaaaaaa ( talk) 12:17, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
The OLA split from the OLF in 2018 and thus should deserve it's own Wikipedia page.-- Garmin21 ( talk) 23:58, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
There has been a lot of improper editions adding unrelated topics recently. Some of the additions talk about Oromo history, culture and other matters not significant to this article. Please refer to other specific articles to make such editions. ( Jack248) 22:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I propose returning this article to semi-protection. I've just reverted a series of deletion edits by an anonymous user, and if this keeps up (and I believe it will, given the recent attention) it would be simpler to semi-protect the article. I could do this myself but thought I should first bring it up for discussion, seeing how this has already been protected and unprotected in a rather short time period. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=4287 http://www.tkb.org/MoreGroupIncidents.jsp?groupID=4287
Source: Developed by the Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism (MIPT), the Terrorism Knowledge Base offers in-depth information on terrorist incidents, groups, and trials. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hagos ( talk • contribs) 02:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC).
I am not sure if the article lacks factual accuracy but i agree it is not neutral. In order to be tagged for "factual accuracy" Wikipedia states 4 requirements:
None of these four issues are the case in this article. It has an overload of references. Some sources include famous Human Rights organizations and well-known news media outlets creating no difficulty of verification. All the info is sourced and there doesn't seem to be any visible error. Let me know if there is a reason to tag it with "factual accuracy." It seems like neutrality is the only problem and it needs to be tagged with NPOV not with Totally disputed. -- Jack248 18:20, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
The Wikimedia Foundation is receiving complaints about this article. David.Monniaux 04:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
The peace loving nations throughout the world should understand that the Tigrean Peoples Liberation Front is a barbaric and brutal ruler with its massive human rights violations, ie. genocide, mass killings, disappearances of individuals, closure of self- help organisations within the empire, and so on.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.92.9.58 ( talk • contribs) 14:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Image:Olf.PNG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot 01:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
A new section includes Kalonzo Musyoka's alleged claim concerning an OLF assassination plot. I am not sure the cited source is reliable; it is part of the website's "Reader Series", which consists of "opinion and commentaries submitted by African Path readers" ( [1]). Is there a more reliable source than the one provided? A Google News search returned quite a few articles about Kalonzo Musyoka but none, so far as I could tell, mentioned an OLF plot. Until we can cite a better source, I have tagged the citation with {{dubious}}. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:19, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Logic of HistoryWe can all agree this word is deragatory. If the word terrorist is to be used correctly why dont we see it by names such as Stalin and the government he ran. In the colonial period the colonists called the colonized who fought against those terrorists, who is the bigger terrorist here, the colonizers or those that defend themselves? This word is really opinionated since someones terrorist might be considered someone else a group that stands for justice. Just for the intire wikipedia, we are not to show any way favoritism to one side, so lets report facts of what has happened and confirmed rether then putting titles such as terrorists on one onther. Logic of History —Preceding comment was added at 23:24, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Esparcadia ( talk) 22:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC) the word itself is not derogatory if it is used properly and correctly. Lenin's and Stalin's forces were terrorists as they butchered innocent civilians on a massive scale. Dittoes for Mao and Taliban and Islamic states that are simply following the tenets of their "faith" which is that to kill "non-believers" is justified killing.
The article posted on the wikepedia is posted by someone who don't like OLF and Oromo People. The poerson who post this artcle is some one who works for Ethiopian government. The Ethiopian gov. is the one who is killing Oromo civiliance and raping women. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.202.202.21 ( talk) 01:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:41, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia,
Kindly, remove such a horrific lies about one of the most important liberation organizations of the Oromo People. Posting such a lie is tantamount to cleansing Oromo People from the surface of the Earth. It is also against the reputation and credibility of your site.
Good day!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.55.95.193 ( talk) 07:03, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Comment moved here from end of article:
Esparcadia ( talk) 22:40, 28 February 2010 (UTC) definitely a terrorist group - it has all the hallmarks of one: funding from outside; killing of innocent women and chidlren; espousing a hate filled ideology - Islam that condones such actions; etc.
According to the Daily Mail (Jan. 03, 2012), the OLF has dropped its secessionist agenda ( link). I've already cited this in the article. I'm not sure what this means for the future direction of the Wikipedia article, but I thought I'd leave a note about it. One other thing I thought I'd point out, possibly relevant given the new development, is that the infobox says the group's ideology is "Ethnic separatism." I'm not sure that the OLF has ever advocated this, at least on an official basis. "Ethnic self-determination" or "ethnic autonomy" come to mind as possible alternatives (though this brings "tomato / to-MAH-to" to mind). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:42, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
I find this article extremely biased. The information it gives about the OLF only lists some so-called "massacres" and gives you information about the ideology of the organization. There is no mention of prominent members such as Elemoo Qilxuu, Leenco Lata, Tsige Galataa etc. It also makes no mention of the fact that the OLF has split into two factions: OLF A39 (referring to Article 39) who support separation from Ethiopia — Preceding unsigned comment added by HOAScholar ( talk • contribs) 03:07, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia readers,
I believe one doesn't need to be a rocket scientist to understand and see through these sheer propaganda against the Oromo ,OLA & OLF .
These articles are one sided, biased ,partial with no substances of truths in it! This won't be the first & the last to comeacross such deliberate lies & fabrications just to tarnish the good image or give an impression that the said organization (OLF) has no wide support from it's people (the Oromo )! Hoping that this will curtail the popular support (OLF)it enjoy from it wider Oromo people across the country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.81.63.25 ( talk) 10:33, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 ( talk) 14:51, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
This article fails to present a balanced and complete picture of the OLF. There is no information on history, prominent figures and leadership. It wreaks of Ethiopian government propaganda. LencaOromo ( talk) 21:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
This article is inflamatory and pits ethnic group against ethnic group. Wikipedia ammend and correct immediately. THere is no way you can permit an article to read with a statement saying mainly Amarahs, do you know how many of that entails and do you have any idea that Amaraha nd Oromos have married and intermixed for decaded upon decades?...wikignorance.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.201.180.136 ( talk • contribs) 19:43, 27 September 2013
I have tried to be unbiased in my improvements to this article. I hope the "neautrality" tag is no longer necessary. LencaOromo ( talk) 17:45, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm proposing we merge the sections "Criticism of the OLF" and "Rebuttal to Criticism" because, individually, they seem to take based on oppinions instead of just being informative pieces. LencaOromo ( talk) 17:44, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Article is supposed to be about the OLF as an organization. However, much of the article, including several recent edits by LencaOromo, are about claims regarding Oromo history. I think much of the material about Oromo history belongs in a different article. This article should be about the OLF, with only a limited amount of material on the events of more than 100 years ago. Pete unseth ( talk) 18:58, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Is this a neutral assessment or an anti-OLF platform? Wikipedia shouldn't be used for such an unenlightened purpose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.55.180.50 ( talk) 07:15, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
The article seems biased, I don't think statements like the following should be in the article. It sounds like OLF mission statement not an informative article "The OLF recognizes and respects the right of minorities in accordance with internationally accepted principles to develop their culture, administer their own affairs, enjoy equal rights in every field of activity. Just like the current Ethiopian government, the OLF has also undertaken to vigorously work for the full realization of these rights and will take necessary measures to strengthen the bond of fraternity between the Oromo people and minorities in Oromia" -et-vol — Preceding unsigned comment added by Et-vol ( talk • contribs) 20:26, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
doesn't OLF work from eritrea now? or where?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oromoforever ( talk • contribs) 06:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
The neutrality on Rebuttal to Criticism of OLF section is highly debatable. It seems , it is a copy paste from the organization website. Reference should be cited and the section should be written objectively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Et-vol ( talk • contribs) 07:14, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
there were apparently many more massacres of amhara ethiopians. does anyone has more info on this?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oromoforever ( talk • contribs)
does OLF still have support inside the country? what kind of support?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oromoforever ( talk • contribs)
it doesnt mention killingd in cambolcha and other cities. User:Ethiopiawit1 03:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
who are some of well known individuals?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oromoforever ( talk • contribs)
Jara abba gadaa 1936-2013 Tadesse Birru 1921-1975 Waqo Gutu 1924-2006 Baro Tulsa 1938-1978 Ibsa Guyana Mekonnen Gallan Taha Ali Abdi Gizachew Tilahun Ebissa Adugna
Bilisumaaaaaa ( talk) 12:17, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
The OLA split from the OLF in 2018 and thus should deserve it's own Wikipedia page.-- Garmin21 ( talk) 23:58, 11 August 2021 (UTC)