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It cites that multiple orgasms are 'uncommon in women' but the book it quotes as evidence says the opposite: Copied from page 175 of 'Our Sexuality': It is not uncommon for a woman to have several sequential orgasms, separated in time by the briefest of intervals (perhaps only seconds). In contrast, the spacing of male orgasms is typically more protracted. How many women experience multiple orgasms? Kinsey and colleagues (1953)reported that about 14% of their female study subjects regularly had multiple orgasms. In 1970 a survey of Psychology Todayreaders revealed a 16% figure (Athana- siou et al., 1970).
Rachelmt ( talk) 05:30, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Welcome, new editor MordvinEvgen ( talk · contribs). You asked various questions at my Talk page ( here; permalink), and I wanted to respond here, because this is the right place to discuss improvements to this article. You recently added some material on the duration of orgasm and the gender differences. I reverted two attempts to add Bohlen, et al. (1980) about the length of male orgasm, based on WP:PRIMARY, and non-recency. Since that left us with an uncited assertion in the article, I've removed that as well.
Individual studies are WP:PRIMARY sources, and should be avoided in topics or content related to medical research, in favor of literature surveys, or WP:SECONDARY sources like textbooks or monographs. A key phrase at WP:MEDRS is this: "All biomedical information must be based on reliable, third-party published secondary sources, and must accurately reflect current knowledge." Primary sources should generally not be used for medical content. We should summarize scientific consensus, and use up-to-date evidence. This is the basis for my removal of recent additions.
My impression of your objections to the reverts, is that it left inaccurate or unsubstantiated claims in the article. You may very well be right about that, but since the previous content had WP:EDITCONSENSUS (which is to say, although many editors are watching this article, none objected), it met our requirements for WP:Verifiability, or at least, it did so up until to the point you objected. At this point, a new consensus should be achieved by discussion here. Since you objected, and the previous material was unsourced, it's fine to just remove that content, and so I did remove it, until it's properly sourced and can be reinserted.
I'm not sure if that answers all your questions from my Talk page. If not, please point out any remaining issues here, where other editors interested in the topic may also find your comments, and join the discussion if they wish. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 23:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Somebody wrote
Psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich, in his 1927 book Die Funktion des Orgasmus (published in English in 1980 as Genitality in the Theory and Therapy of Neurosis) was the first to make orgasm central to the concept of mental health, and defined neurosis in terms of blocks to having orgastic potency. Although orgasm dysfunction can have psychological components, physiological factors often play a role. For instance, delayed orgasm or the inability to achieve orgasm is a common side effect of many medications.
His best work was 1934 "Massenpsychologie des Faschismus". In the USA he failed totaly with his unscientific Orgone.
(Similar late Tesla Tesla never understood Maxwell and the loss in the propagation law of energy transfer by radio 1/r²)
Reich landete mit dem Orgon leider auf dem Müllhaufen der Wissenschaftsgeschichte.
So also his "Funktion des Orgasmus" is more a kind of SciFi and should be taken hypothetically only. Dates from the high times of hydraulics with concepts of sexuality overpressure and of similar weird war theories as an explosion. Nothing explodes.
Far more, it´s possible to have extended orgasms on the same high level as one will without any drugs. The concept of kundalini sexual tantra, illuminaton or even enlightenment as forbidden science. Main aspects of the real experience of the real missing here, but who knows why.
Maybe strong pseudomorality, much stronger as the ora et labora catholicism before.
OK- One may say Gentleman is silent and enjoys but science should be free and true for all. This Wiki is not. Too much preachers. By the way, Brexit was financed by multibillionaires. money rules. it´s a talk page.-- 2003:F2:870F:F617:42B:C20A:982A:29E6 ( talk) 06:23, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Don't think you can attribute orgasm to physical stimulation of the penis. Ridiculously vague and non-specific. Scarcely more specific than 'stimulation of the human'. The only component of the penis for which physical stimulation leads to a sense of pleasure is the corona of the glans. The body of the glans is insensate. Not capable of imparting any sense of sexual pleasure whatever. The rest of the penis is utterly immaterial. Would not be surprised to learn the clitoris is essentially insensate tissue like the glans, and only a 'corona' of the clitoris is actually sensitive. Ought to be able to do a lot better than 'stimulation of the penis'. Surely there are authoritative sources on this somewhere.
122.151.210.84 ( talk) 11:19, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
MrOllie, I explained myself here and here. This information is at Orgasm#Males in more appropriate detail. The refractory period is most commonly defined as a physiological male response, and what has been termed "refractory period" in females is not the same thing. Enlightenedstranger0 ( talk) 00:44, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Information about females and their "refractory period" is at Orgasm#Females. Enlightenedstranger0 ( talk) 00:54, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Acmegenesis and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 7#Acmegenesis until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. CycloneYoris talk! 20:56, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello. Per WP:APPNOTE, I'm asking for feedback at Talk:Orgasm gap#Trimming citations and Talk:Orgasm gap#Past tense for snapshots. Enlightenedstranger0 ( talk) 23:24, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of women, in general, feeling orgasms in their whole body, while men, in general, only experience sexual pleasure in their genital region? -- 24.134.246.185 ( talk) 20:23, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
men, in general, only experience sexual pleasure in their genital region. As the phrase goes, your mileage may vary. Unfortunately, sex is inconsistently studied in medicine, & any personal anecdotes would be original research. Here are a couple of citations:
People who deny that Brody, Costa, and Reich are WP:FRINGE lack scientific literacy. tgeorgescu ( talk) 09:45, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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remove the "Experienced by males and females", if the goal is to generalize change to "Experienced by most known mammals" 190.31.207.28 ( talk) 03:38, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
"However, definitions of orgasm vary and there is a sentiment that consensus on how to consistently classify it is absent."
I think the writer means:
"Definitions of orgasm vary and there is no consensus on how to classify it."
147.148.211.100 (
talk)
07:11, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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It cites that multiple orgasms are 'uncommon in women' but the book it quotes as evidence says the opposite: Copied from page 175 of 'Our Sexuality': It is not uncommon for a woman to have several sequential orgasms, separated in time by the briefest of intervals (perhaps only seconds). In contrast, the spacing of male orgasms is typically more protracted. How many women experience multiple orgasms? Kinsey and colleagues (1953)reported that about 14% of their female study subjects regularly had multiple orgasms. In 1970 a survey of Psychology Todayreaders revealed a 16% figure (Athana- siou et al., 1970).
Rachelmt ( talk) 05:30, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Welcome, new editor MordvinEvgen ( talk · contribs). You asked various questions at my Talk page ( here; permalink), and I wanted to respond here, because this is the right place to discuss improvements to this article. You recently added some material on the duration of orgasm and the gender differences. I reverted two attempts to add Bohlen, et al. (1980) about the length of male orgasm, based on WP:PRIMARY, and non-recency. Since that left us with an uncited assertion in the article, I've removed that as well.
Individual studies are WP:PRIMARY sources, and should be avoided in topics or content related to medical research, in favor of literature surveys, or WP:SECONDARY sources like textbooks or monographs. A key phrase at WP:MEDRS is this: "All biomedical information must be based on reliable, third-party published secondary sources, and must accurately reflect current knowledge." Primary sources should generally not be used for medical content. We should summarize scientific consensus, and use up-to-date evidence. This is the basis for my removal of recent additions.
My impression of your objections to the reverts, is that it left inaccurate or unsubstantiated claims in the article. You may very well be right about that, but since the previous content had WP:EDITCONSENSUS (which is to say, although many editors are watching this article, none objected), it met our requirements for WP:Verifiability, or at least, it did so up until to the point you objected. At this point, a new consensus should be achieved by discussion here. Since you objected, and the previous material was unsourced, it's fine to just remove that content, and so I did remove it, until it's properly sourced and can be reinserted.
I'm not sure if that answers all your questions from my Talk page. If not, please point out any remaining issues here, where other editors interested in the topic may also find your comments, and join the discussion if they wish. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 23:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Somebody wrote
Psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich, in his 1927 book Die Funktion des Orgasmus (published in English in 1980 as Genitality in the Theory and Therapy of Neurosis) was the first to make orgasm central to the concept of mental health, and defined neurosis in terms of blocks to having orgastic potency. Although orgasm dysfunction can have psychological components, physiological factors often play a role. For instance, delayed orgasm or the inability to achieve orgasm is a common side effect of many medications.
His best work was 1934 "Massenpsychologie des Faschismus". In the USA he failed totaly with his unscientific Orgone.
(Similar late Tesla Tesla never understood Maxwell and the loss in the propagation law of energy transfer by radio 1/r²)
Reich landete mit dem Orgon leider auf dem Müllhaufen der Wissenschaftsgeschichte.
So also his "Funktion des Orgasmus" is more a kind of SciFi and should be taken hypothetically only. Dates from the high times of hydraulics with concepts of sexuality overpressure and of similar weird war theories as an explosion. Nothing explodes.
Far more, it´s possible to have extended orgasms on the same high level as one will without any drugs. The concept of kundalini sexual tantra, illuminaton or even enlightenment as forbidden science. Main aspects of the real experience of the real missing here, but who knows why.
Maybe strong pseudomorality, much stronger as the ora et labora catholicism before.
OK- One may say Gentleman is silent and enjoys but science should be free and true for all. This Wiki is not. Too much preachers. By the way, Brexit was financed by multibillionaires. money rules. it´s a talk page.-- 2003:F2:870F:F617:42B:C20A:982A:29E6 ( talk) 06:23, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Don't think you can attribute orgasm to physical stimulation of the penis. Ridiculously vague and non-specific. Scarcely more specific than 'stimulation of the human'. The only component of the penis for which physical stimulation leads to a sense of pleasure is the corona of the glans. The body of the glans is insensate. Not capable of imparting any sense of sexual pleasure whatever. The rest of the penis is utterly immaterial. Would not be surprised to learn the clitoris is essentially insensate tissue like the glans, and only a 'corona' of the clitoris is actually sensitive. Ought to be able to do a lot better than 'stimulation of the penis'. Surely there are authoritative sources on this somewhere.
122.151.210.84 ( talk) 11:19, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
MrOllie, I explained myself here and here. This information is at Orgasm#Males in more appropriate detail. The refractory period is most commonly defined as a physiological male response, and what has been termed "refractory period" in females is not the same thing. Enlightenedstranger0 ( talk) 00:44, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Information about females and their "refractory period" is at Orgasm#Females. Enlightenedstranger0 ( talk) 00:54, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Acmegenesis and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 7#Acmegenesis until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. CycloneYoris talk! 20:56, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello. Per WP:APPNOTE, I'm asking for feedback at Talk:Orgasm gap#Trimming citations and Talk:Orgasm gap#Past tense for snapshots. Enlightenedstranger0 ( talk) 23:24, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of women, in general, feeling orgasms in their whole body, while men, in general, only experience sexual pleasure in their genital region? -- 24.134.246.185 ( talk) 20:23, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
men, in general, only experience sexual pleasure in their genital region. As the phrase goes, your mileage may vary. Unfortunately, sex is inconsistently studied in medicine, & any personal anecdotes would be original research. Here are a couple of citations:
People who deny that Brody, Costa, and Reich are WP:FRINGE lack scientific literacy. tgeorgescu ( talk) 09:45, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Orgasm has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
remove the "Experienced by males and females", if the goal is to generalize change to "Experienced by most known mammals" 190.31.207.28 ( talk) 03:38, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
"However, definitions of orgasm vary and there is a sentiment that consensus on how to consistently classify it is absent."
I think the writer means:
"Definitions of orgasm vary and there is no consensus on how to classify it."
147.148.211.100 (
talk)
07:11, 9 July 2023 (UTC)